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Demon Possession : Examining A Muslims Defense of Muhammads Bewitchment
Johnny Bravo and Demon Possession:
Examining A Muslims Defense of Muhammads Bewitchment
Part 1
Sam Shamoun
Usman Sheikh, a.k.a. Johnny Bravo (the name we will be using throughout our paper), has
once again made an attempt to "refute" our responses
to his counter-rebuttal. While surfing the net we ran into what seemed to be a rough draft
of his response, placed at the time on this site:
http://rebuttals.tripod.com/
After informing his colleague, MENJ, that we had located Bravos "responses"
and would be addressing them in due time as the Lord permits, the article mysteriously vanished.
Thankfully we copied and saved Bravos section where he tries to interact with my claims
that Muhammad was bewitched and was also demon possessed (here).
Since we anticipate that the final draft of Bravos paper will be appearing on
the Bismikaallahuma website, we have decided to respond to this particular section.
As is the case with his "rebuttals", Bravos article is filled with
venom and hate, indicating that he has been overwhelmed by the historical and factual data
that he now feels the need to lash out and unleash his rage for all to read. We will try
to cut out as much of the poison as possible without leaving out the main thrust of his
"counter-argument." All biblical quotations are taken from the English Standard
Version (ESV), unless noted otherwise.
Bravo begins his section with the title:
Was the Prophet (P) "bewitched" and "demon possessed"?
The immediate answer is, yes. Bravos subheading gives the impression that there
is no evidence for Muhammad being demon-possessed and bewitched. But even Bravo will have
to admit that there is such evidence but will then try his best to explain it away.
Bravo asserts:
The missionary is not done yet as he is still on a blind rampage firing all the
irrelevant polemics in every direction. His next irrelevant polemic is that Muhammed (P)
was not a Prophet of God because he was "bewitched". However, this misses the
entire point of the incident and conviniently [sic] ignores the basic fundamental
Muslim views and beliefs on this matter.
RESPONSE:
Bravo accuses me of being on a blind rampage, but writes a paper against me that is
full of venom and insults. The tone of his response makes it clear who is really angry.
To me this looks like our response to his attack on the Bible and alleged defense of the
Quran enraged him because those were his best arguments and now he is left with little
else to say in response.
Bravo claims that our highlighting Muhammads demon possession misses the point.
Really? How does the fact that a man who was bewitched and who came under the control of
Satan, which calls his entire prophetic claims and credibility into question, miss the
point? How can anyone dismiss this issue as irrelevant?
Bravo continues:
The missionary claimed earlier on that the bad, low and stylistically imperfect Greek
of the New Testament writings did not "bother" the Christians. Though we know
this to be a blatant lie, we can, however, safely state that the Prophet (P) being under
the spell of a certain individual also does not "bother" the Muslims or atleast
[sic] most Muslims. That is because we have always believed the Prophet (P) to be
a human being and nothing more than a human being. As such he (P) was subject to the same
laws of nature and supernatural as we are. He (P) was subject to the same laws of physics
as any other human being. If we fall down we get hurt and injured. Similarly, the Prophet
(P), being a human being, would also feel pain if he fell down. That is because he was a
human being, and this is how Muslims view him.
The incident of the Prophet (P) being effected [sic] by the spell of an individual
simply highlights the power of God and proves the Prophethood of Muhammed (P) without
demonstrating anything negative concerning him (P). The incident demonstrates that the
saver [sic] and problem solver and healer of all issues and diseases imaginable is
none other than God. It further demonstrates to the Muslims that Muhammed (P) was the
Messenger of God and that he (P) was indeed under His divine protection. The incident
serves to remind us that only God is responsible for ones [sic] health, sickness
and well being and that it is only God who has cures to all the sicknesses and problems,
be they physical or spiritual.
Muhammed (P) was a man like any other man, therefore we are not surprised to know that
he was hurt and felt pain when he fell down, or that he was ill on a particular day etc.
Similarly, him (P) being under someone's spell does not disprove his Messengership and
Prophethood. What is the end of the story? The conclusion of the story is that Allah
healed the Prophet (P) and eliminated the spell of the Jew by revealing His Message, the
Quran. In other words, the words of Allah were employed and acted as a cure for the
Prophet (P). It was demonstrated by way of a real example that they, the words of God
Quran [sic], are enough to combat and eliminate any spell imaginable that anyone
can pull up their sleeves. The tradition from Bukhari that the missionary sites itself
concludes: "He [Muhammed (pbuh)] said, "Allah has cured me". In other words
the incident demonstrates the Prophethood of Muhammed (P) because it is shown that he was
under the divine protection of God. End of story. Allah permitted the Prophet (P) to be
effected by a spell and used this incident as a reason to reveal certain verses of the
Quran that would forever act to repel all sorts of spells and magics against the Muslims.
After repeating the same point ad infinitum, Bravo tries to appeal to the experiences
of Gods true prophets to support his position:
Moses (P) was weak of tongue, and was overcome with doubts. God even PUNISHED Moses (P)
for falling victim to pride, a very human weakness, when he "smote the rock" a
second time to bring forth water before the people, but did not give God the credit,
making it appear that it was due to his own power. God told Moses (P) that he would not
reach the Promised Land with his people (Numbers 20:10-12; Deutronomy [sic]
32:51-52). Will Sam say that Moses (P) was not a prophet because he was PUNISHED by God?
How much worse is that than becoming the object of a magical attack, over which one
triumphs due to the personal assistance of the angel Jibreel (A.S)?!
RESPONSE:
Only Bravo could try using Muhammads bewitchment and possession as evidence
that God was protecting his "beloved messenger"! Bravo confuses the issue
by trying to introduce Muhammads humanity, as if this solves the problem. No one is
questioning that Muhammad was anything more than a human being. What we are questioning is
Muhammads claim of being Gods prophet. According to the Holy Bible, Gods
true prophets and messengers are protected from sorcery and enchantment and CANNOT succumb
to magic. Therefore, Muhammads bewitchment shows that he was not a genuine
spokesperson of God.
Furthermore, Bravos "defense" of Muhammads possession ends up
indirectly denying one of the essential tenets of Islamic belief, namely that Allah guards
his prophets from gross sins. The Muslims assume that protecting prophets from gross
transgressions is essential in establishing the purity of the message. MENJ, Bravos
colleague, writes:
A Prophet of God Has Divine Guidance
Whereas a normal man only follows his own
conscience or the morals of his society, a Prophet of God is guided by the perfect morals
from Allâh alone. He is the perfect example for his respective Umma' to follow. His words
and actions pictures the perfect man guided by Allâh as an example for mankind. The
prophetic message of perfectness [sic] comes from God to his Prophet, the chosen
Man to bring His message to his Umma'. If only the Message is Perfect, but the
Person who brings this Message is not, who would want to follow the Person?
(Source)
Yet, if Allah were capable of preventing his messengers from committing major sins then
we would expect that he could also prevent them from falling under Satans sway.
After all, what person would want to trust such a god who is incapable of protecting his
prophet from the effects of sorcerers? And, in light of this, how can a person know for
certain that the prophets message is truly from God or from Satan?
It seems that Muslims will believe that Allah could protect Muhammad from gross sins,
but couldnt protect him from a Jews enchantment!
But even here Allah couldnt do a good job since Muhammad still fell into sin:
Allah forgive thee (O Muhammad)! Wherefore didst thou grant them leave ere those
who told the truth were manifest to thee and thou didst know the liars? S. 9:43 Pickthall
Then have patience (O Muhammad). Lo! the promise of Allah is true. And ask
forgiveness of thy sin, and hymn the praise of thy Lord at fall of night and in the
early hours. S. 40:55 Pickthall
So know (O Muhammad) that there is no God save Allah, and ask forgiveness for thy
sin and for believing men and believing women. Allah knoweth (both) your place of
turmoil and your place of rest. S. 47:19 Pickthall
That Allah MAY forgive thee of thy sin that which is past and that which is to come,
and may perfect His favour unto thee, and may guide thee on a right path, S. 48:1-2
He frowned and turned away Because the blind man came unto him. What could inform thee
but that he might grow (in grace) Or take heed and so the reminder might avail him? As for
him who thinketh himself independent, Unto him thou payest regard. Yet it is not thy
concern if he grow not (in grace). But as for him who cometh unto thee with earnest
purpose And hath fear, From him thou art distracted. S. 80:1-10
For more on the subject of Muhammads gross sins, especially regarding the precise
meaning of the Arabic word for sin in these references and how it refers to major
offenses, as well as how some Muslims try to cover these up please read the following:
www.answering-islam.org/Silas/mo-sinner.htm
www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Versions/047.019.html
www.answering-islam.org/Silas/femalecaptives.htm
www.answering-islam.org/Silas/asma.htm
www.answering-islam.org/Silas/ashraf.htm
www.answering-islam.org/Silas/kinana.htm
www.answering-islam.org/Silas/hudaybiyya.htm
And for documentation from Muslim sources that prophets do commit gross sins, please
consult the following papers:
www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/sins_of_prophets.htm
www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/adam_and_eve_shirk.htm
Thirdly, Allahs help came a little too late. Unlike the God of the Bible, Allah
wasnt able to prevent Muhammad from falling under a Jews enchantment which
caused Muhammad to hallucinate some very embarrassing things:
Narrated Aisha:
Magic was worked on Allah's Apostle SO THAT HE USED TO THINK THAT HE HAD SEXUAL
RELATIONS WITH HIS WIVES WHILE HE ACTUALLY HAD NOT. (Sufyan said: That is the hardest
kind of magic as it has such an effect). Then one day he said, "O 'Aisha do you know
that Allah has instructed me concerning the matter I asked Him about? Two men came to me
and one of them sat near my head and the other sat near my feet. The one near my head
asked the other. What is wrong with this man?' The latter replied he is under the effect
of magic. The first one asked, Who has worked magic on him?' The other replied Labid
bin Al-A'sam, a man from Bani Zuraiq who was an ally of the Jews and was a hypocrite.' The
first one asked, What material did he use)?' The other replied, 'A comb and the hair stuck
to it.' The first one asked, 'Where (is that)?' The other replied. 'In a skin of pollen of
a male date palm tree kept under a stone in the well of Dharwan' '' So the Prophet went to
that well and took out those things and said "That was the well which was shown to me
(in a dream) Its water looked like the infusion of Henna leaves and its date-palm trees
looked like the heads of devils." The Prophet added, "Then that thing was taken
out.' I said (to the Prophet) "Why do you not treat yourself with Nashra?" He
said, "Allah has cured me; I dislike to let evil spread among my people."
(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71,
Number 660)
Narrated 'Aisha:
The Prophet continued for such-and-such period imagining that he has slept (had sexual relations)
with his wives, and in fact he did not ... (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73,
Number 89)
From Ibn Sad:
... Labid ibn al-Asam, the Jew, bewitched the Prophet, may Allah bless him, by
which his sight became weak and his Companions paid him visits as if he was a sick man ...
Umar Ibn Hafs informed us on the authority of Juwaybir, he on the authority of
al-Dahhak, he on the authority of Ibn Abbas: he said, the Apostle of Allah, may
Allah bless him, fell ill. He was bewitched about women and food ... (Kitab
Al-Tabaqat Al- Kabir, Volume II, parts I & II, English translation by S. Moinul
Haq, M.A., PH.D assisted by H.K. Ghazanfar M.A. [Kitab Bhavan Exporters & Importers,
1784 Kalan Mahal, Daryaganj, New Delhi- 110 002 India], pp. 245, 247; italic emphasis
ours)
Allah managed to save his "prophet" only after the latter fell sick and
started hallucinating that he was sleeping with all eleven of his wives. But it gets
worse. The hadith states that Muhammad repeatedly asked Allah to cure him:
Narrated 'Aisha:
that Allah's Apostle was affected by magic, so much that he used to think that he had
done something which in fact, he did not do, and he invoked his Lord (for a remedy) ...
Narrated Hisham's father: 'Aisha said, "Allah's Apostle was bewitched, so he invoked
Allah REPEATEDLY requesting Him to cure him from that magic)." Hisham then narrated
the above narration. (See Hadith No. 658, Vol. 7) (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 75,
Number 400)
According to certain traditions, Muhammad had to wait a long time before Allah would
even answer him. Ibn Hisham, in his edited version of Ibn Ishaqs Sirat Rasulullah,
wrote:
"From B. Zurayq: Labib b. A'sam, who bewitched the apostle of God so that he
could not come at his wives." (Alfred Guillaume, [Oxford University Press,
Karachi], p. 240; bold emphasis ours)
Alfred Guillaume, the translator, noted:
I In commenting on this Suhayli asserts
that the tradition is sound and is accepted by the traditionists. He found
in the Jami of Muammar b. Rashad (a work which I cannot find mentioned
by Brockelmann) THE STATEMENT THAT THE SPELL LASTED FOR A YEAR. He adds that the
Mutazila and Modernists rejected the tradition ON THE GROUND THAT PROPHETS COULD NOT
BE BEWITCHED OTHERWISE THEY WOULD COMMIT SIN and that would be contrary to the word of God
And God will protect thee from men (5.71). He finds the tradition
unassailable. It is properly attested and intellectually acceptable. The prophets were
not preserved from bodily afflictions in which category sorcery falls. (Ibid., bold and
capital emphasis ours)
So Allah allowed his "messenger" to remain bewitched and to hallucinate
for a year! Silas comments are quite relevant at this point:
Pause and think for a minute. Muhammad is supposed to be Gods greatest
and last prophet. Muhammad is supposed to be receiving revelations from Allah.
Yet Muhammad was so bewitched and befuddled that for one year he thought he was
having sexual relations with his wives, when he actually was not! Imagine what
were his wives thinking? Do you really think he was a prophet?
(Source)
Keep in mind that this bewitchment did not happen before the prophetic call of
Muhammad, nor did it happen in the fatrah period (an intermission where Muhammad
received no revelation, see this article and the further discussions
linked in it) at the beginning of Muhammads prophetic call. This happened in Medina
when he received "revelations" regularly. In fact, the later years were the most
"productive", i.e. he had revelations more often towards the end:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah sent down His Divine Inspiration to His Apostle continuously and abundantly
during the period preceding his death till He took him unto Him. That was the period of
the greatest part of revelation; and Allah's Apostle died after that. (Sahih Al-Bukhari,
Volume 6, Book 61, Number 505)
The late biographer, Muhammad Husayn Haykal, places the time of Muhammad's
bewitchment right after the Muslim victory at the Battle of Khaybar:
Muhammad returned from Khaybar, and Ja'far and the Muslims returned from
Abyssinia. The messengers of Muhammad returned from those lands whither
Muhammad had sent them. All of them met again and were reunited in Madinah.
Inspiring each of them was the longing to go to Makkah in the following year
and to do so in security, with shaven heads or short hair, and to perform
their pilgrimage without fear. Muhammad was so pleased to be reunited with
Ja'far that he said he could not tell which was the greater: victory over
Khaybar or reunion with Ja'far. It was in this period that, according to
a certain report, a Jew called Labid charmed Muhammad and put him under a
spell. The report is self-contradictory and highly questionable. The
claim that Muhammad did anything at any time without consciousness or under
a spell is a sheer fabrication and hence devoid of truth. (Haykal, The
Life of Muhammad, tran. Isma'il Raji al-Faruqi [American Trust Publications,
USA 1976; Malaysian edition by Islamic Book Trust], p. 379;
online edition)
Notice just how adamant Haykal was in denying the historicity of Muhammad's
bewitchment. Unlike Bravo, he apparently realized the serious implications
this event has on Muhammad's claims to prophethood.
And:
... Nothing had adversely affected his health throughout this period except a
brief lack of appetite in 6 A.H. falsely attributed to Jewish magic,
and a little discomfort following his eating a bite of poisoned lamb in 7 A.H. (Ibid., p. 493;
online edition;
bold emphasis ours)
According to some other Muslim sources the Battle of Khaybar took place at 7 A.H.
(Reference).
This implies that several parts of the Quran were "revealed" at the
same time as Muhammad was under the spell and influence of demons. These Quranic
revelations were given through a man under demonic influence. Seemingly, both spiritual
forces could coexist without a problem in Muhammads life. If the Quran is itself
of demonic origin, this makes sense. In any case, the fact that Muhammad could be under
a spell and speak "revelation" at the same time certainly makes the source of
his revelations highly questionable.
Guillaumes comment that the Mutazilas and Modernists rejected these traditions
confirms what we have been saying. It shows that Bravo, by agreeing that Muhammad could
be bewitched, really doesnt understand the gravity of such an admission. He will
concede and admit just about anything in order to stubbornly cling to his religion and
defend the indefensible.
A little later Bravo will say in response to our claim that Muhammad was demon
possessed:
This is nothing more than another blatant lie and in fact an example of the missionarys
[sic] personal view, prejudice and hate feelings generated from his hatred towards
Islam. But to present his personal feelings as a "fact" is deception to say the
least. The missionary has not cited any source that states that Muhammed (P) was
supposedly "demon possessed". Hence this is another example of his concoctions.
If, however, he has proof and evidence to support his above charge, then he is required to
share it with everyone instead of keeping it a closely guarded secret to himself.
Since Bravo claims that we havent given any sources that explicitly say Muhammad
was demon possessed, we are only too happy to provide these quotes for him:
Naturally he was scared, and intimated to his wife, Khadija, the fear that he might
even be possessed by an evil spirit ... Stricken with panic, Muhammad arose and asked
himself, "What did I see? Did possession of the devil WHICH I FEARED ALL ALONG
come to pass?" ... When he calmed down, he cast toward his wife the glance of a
man in need of rescue and said, "O Khadijah, what has happened to me?" He told
her of his experience and intimated to her his fear that his mind had finally betrayed
him, and that he was becoming a seer or a man possessed. (Muhammad Husayn Haykal,
The Life of Muhammad, tran. Ismail Raji al-Faruqi [American Trust Publications,
USA 1976; Malaysian edition by Islamic Book Trust], pp. 73, 74)
"As she did on earlier occasions when Muhammad feared possession by the devil,
so now stood firm by her husband and void of the slightest doubt, convinced him that he
was called to be God's prophet to the Arabs." (Ibid., p. 75; bold emphasis ours)
According to the Muslims sources, Muhammad himself initially feared that he was demon
possessed! He wasnt the only one since even his wet nurse, Halimah, thought so as well:
"Some months after our return he and his brother were with our lambs behind the
tents when his brother came running and said to us, Two men clothed in white have
seized that Qurayshi brother of mine and thrown him down and opened up his belly, and are
stirring him up. We ran towards him and found him standing up with a livid face. We
took hold of him and asked him what was the matter. He said, Two men with white
raiment came and threw me down and opened up my belly and searched therein for I know not
what, so we took him back to our tent.
His father said to me, I am afraid that this child has had a stroke, so take
him back to his family before the result appears. So we picked him up and took
him to his mother who asked why we had brought him when I had been anxious for his welfare
and desirous of keeping him with me. I said to her, God has let my son live so far
and I have done my duty. I am afraid that ill will befall him, so I have brought
him back to you as you wished. She asked me what happened and gave me no peace until
I told her. When she asked if I feared a demon possessed him, I replied THAT I DID.
She answered that no demon had any power over her son who had a great future before him,
and then she told me how when she was pregnant with him a light went out from her which
illumined the castles of Busra and Syria,
" (Guillaume, The Life of Muhammad,
pp. 71-72; bold and capital emphasis ours)
Even Waraqa bin Naufal, the Christian monk whom Khadijah took Muhammad to see
after his encounter with the spirit, suspected that Satan might have deceived Muhammad:
"Waraqa was dumbfounded at this, and said, ‘If Gabriel has actually
placed his feet upon the earth, he has done so for the best of people thereupon.
And he never came down for anyone except a prophet. For he is the companion
of all the prophets and messengers, the one whom God sends down to them.
I believe what you tell me of him. Send for 'Abd Allah's son, so that I may
question him, hear what he says and talk to him. I am afraid it may be
someone other than Gabriel, for certain devils imitate him and by so doing
can mislead and corrupt some men. This can result in a man becoming confused
and even crazy whereas before he had been of sound mind.’"
(Ibn Kathir, The Life of the Prophet Muhammad (Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya),
Volume I, translated by professor Trevor Le Gassick, reviewed by Dr. Ahmed Fareed
[Garnet Publishing Limited, 8 Southern Court, south Street Reading RG1 4QS, UK;
The Center for Muslim Contribution to Civilization, 1998], pp. 296-297;
italic emphasis ours)
Unfortunately, instead of sticking with his suspicions, Waraqa confirms Muhammad's
prophethood despite all the biblical evidence to the contrary. [That is: IF one can believe
the Muslim tradition on this point. Some people question this. See the links at the end of
the Index entry on Waraqa bin Naufal.]
For further reading we recommend the following articles by Silas:
www.answering-islam.org/Silas/suicide.htm
www.answering-islam.org/Silas/demons.htm
We also recommend our in-depth responses to MENJs reply to both Silas and myself:
www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Menj/fatrah.htm
www.answering-islam.org/Silas/fatrah.htm
www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Menj/fatrah2.htm
www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Menj/fatrah3.htm
http://answer-islam.org/Menjprophets.html
Furthermore, since Bravo argued that Muhammads bewitchment only demonstrates
his humanity, reflecting the weakness of being human, does this therefore mean (per
Bravos logic) that a person who does not sin or commit mistakes is not human? If
this is the case then Bravo has now argued that Christ is not human, or at least more than
human, since Christ was sinless and never committed a single mistake. Note Bravos
logic.
- Human beings make mistakes and commit sins.
- Jesus made no mistakes and committed no sins.
- Therefore, Jesus isnt human, or at least he isnt only human.
Bravo also said that Muhammads bewitchment "demonstrates that the saver [sic]
and problem solver and healer of all issues and diseases imaginable is none other than
God." But according to the first century eyewitness documents (i.e. the New Testament),
the Lord Jesus is the savior, the problem solver, and the one who heals all issues and diseases
imaginable:
"And he told his disciples to have a boat ready for him because of the crowd, lest
they crush him, for he had healed many, so that all who had diseases pressed
around him to touch him. And whenever the unclean spirits saw him, they fell
down before him and cried out, You are the Son of God." Mark 3:9-11
Again, according to Bravos logic, Jesus is therefore God Almighty!
- God alone [implied by Bravos formulation] is the savior, the problem
solver, and healer of all things.
- Jesus is the savior, the problem solver, and healer of all things.
- Therefore, Jesus is God.
Lord willing, we will have more to say about Bravos appeal to the Bible and
attack on Christ in part 2 of this rebuttal.
And since Bravo admits that humanity is characterized by weakness and imperfections,
the question to him would be why is this so? Does this not demonstrate the accuracy and
truthfulness of the Holy Bible which says that all human beings are born with a sinful
nature as a result of Adams fall? Humans are imperfect because their nature is
fallen and corrupt, making it impossible for anyone to be completely pure and innocent
(with the exception of the sinless Son of God).
Bravo now tries to deny the historicity of the "Satanic verses":
The claim that the Prophet (P) "mixed up" Gods verses with "Satans"
is a lie as has already been exposed in the previous section of our paper.
Hadîth al-Gharânîq al-Ula
This lie is based upon fabricated traditions. Refutations to these are already available
in the links provided in the above section. What we would like to know is how could the
missionary be so blatanly [sic] ignorant regarding this simple fact? It is unlikely
to suppose that someone who has been authoring so much polemics against Islam would have
been genuinely ignorant of this issue. Thus the only logical conclusion we can reach is
that he knew his claims were fabrications, yet he still decided to hide this fact from the
readers and deceptively rehashed them without even bothering to tell the entire truth. Far
from proving anything against the Quran and Islam, such a tactic serves only to put more
holes into his already dwindling credibility.
RESPONSE:
It never ceases to amaze us how quickly and how often Muslims will pull out the
"weak traditions" or "fabricated stories" canard when facing
incriminating evidence against Muhammad. Bravo doesnt hesitate to use
"weak" or "fabricated" hadiths to defend Muhammad, as he tried
to do in his response to me:
Muhammad Ibn Umar told us: Muhammad Ibn
Abdullah, Az-Zuhris nephew, told us on authority of his father that he said: an
amount of one milk drink was collected in a pot or glass, so Salîm used to drink it every
day, for five days. After this, he used to enter at her while her head is uncovered.
This was permission from Messenger of Allah to Sahla bint Suhail.
(Source)
The narrator, Muhammad Ibn Umar, is more popularly known as al-Waqidi. What
Bravo forgot to mention is that Muslim scholars have rejected al-Waqidi for being
an untrustworthy narrator. See our response for
the details.
Yet, what is even more amazing about this is that al-Waqidi is one of the gentlemen who
narrated the "Satanic verses", and is used as a scapegoat for rejecting the story!
For instance, MENJ, Bravos companion, posts an article responding to the Satanic
verses, which says:
[(*) Muhammad ibn `Umar al-Waqidi (d. 207), Ahmad ibn Hanbal said of him: "He is A
LIAR." Al-Bukhari and Abu Hatim al-Razi said: "DISCARDED." Ibn `Adi said:
"His narrations ARE NOT RETAINED, AND THEIR BANE COMES FROM HIM." Ibn al-Madini
said: "HE FORGES HADITHS." Al-Dhahabi said: "CONSENSUS HAS SETTLED OVER
HIS DEBILITY." Mizan al-I`tidal (3:662-666 #7993).] (Source:
http://bismikaallahuma.org/Polemics/haddad.htm;
capital emphasis ours)
We break this down in order to expose Bravos double standards and hypocritical
methodology:
- When it is convenient Bravo will use "weak" or "fabricated"
material to prove a point.
- Bravo then condemns others for using traditions which incriminate Muhammad on the basis
that they are either weak or fabricated.
- Bravo will even use al-Waqidi to defend Muhammad against the charge of perversion.
- And yet Bravos colleague will use this same Al-Waqidi to reject the "Satanic
verses" as a fabrication!
Christian Apologist John Gilchrist sums it up best:
... The evidences certainly seem to be well-founded and the arguments against them
strained to the point of glaring factual inaccuracy. The rejection of the story is clearly
motivated by the unpalatable nature of its contents rather than a consideration of its
factual historicity. There are numerous other stories relating to Muhammad's life of no
better historical foundation than this one which are nevertheless usually admitted. Indeed
in many cases incidents with a much weaker claim to authenticity are accepted as genuine.
A recent apologist for Muhammad has written a biography in which he makes it plain that he
has relied chiefly on the earliest biographies for his facts, in particular Ibn Ishaq, Ibn
Sa'd and Waqidi (Lings, Muhammad, p. 349), and has unquestioningly included many
stories of no greater authority than the story of Muhammad's concession to the Meccan
idolaters. This story, however, is omitted without any reference to it whatsoever. Clearly
it is rejected, not because it has a poor historical foundation, but because it records a
damaging lapse made by Muhammad during his ten year ministry at Mecca. (Gilchrist, Muhammad
and the Religion of Islam, "Satan's Interjection and its Implications";
Source)
Thankfully though, al-Waqidi wasnt the sole person who narrated the incident.
There were many others that did as well, such as renowned Muslim historian al-Tabari as
well as leading Muslim exegete al-Zamakhshari.
In fact, many Muslims believe that Quranic passages were "revealed" in
connection with this event:
And they indeed strove hard to beguile thee (Muhammad) away from that wherewith We have
inspired thee, that thou shouldst invent other than it against Us; and then would they
have accepted thee as a friend. And if We had not made thee wholly firm thou mightest
almost have inclined unto them a little. Then had we made thee taste a double (punishment)
of living and a double (punishment) of dying, then hadst thou found no helper against Us.
S. 17:73-75 Pickthall
Ibn Sad wrote in connection with the above citation:
... Then the Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him, approached them (Quraysh) and
got close to them, and they also came near to him. One day he was sitting in their
assembly near the Kabah, and he recited: "By the Star when it setteth",
till he reached, "Have ye thought upon Al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the other".
Satan made him repeat these two phrases: These idols are high and their intercession is
expected. The Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him, repeated them, and he went
on reciting the whole surah and then fell in prostration, and the people also fell
in prostration with him. Al-Walid Ibn Al-Mughirah, who was an old man and could not
prostrate, took a handful of dust to his forehead and prostrated on it. It is said:
Abu Uhayhah Said Ibn al-As, being an old man, took dust and prostrated on it.
Some people say: It was al-Walid who took the dust; others say: It was Abu Uhayhah; while
others say: Both did it. They were pleased with what the Apostle of Allah, may Allah
bless him, had uttered. They said: We know that Allah gives life and causes death. He
creates and gives us provisions, but our deities will intercede with Him, and in what
you have assigned to them, we are with you. These words pricked the Apostle of Allah,
may Allah bless him. He was sitting in his house and when it was evening, Gabriel, may
peace be upon him, came to him and REVISED the surah. Then Gabriel said: Did
I bring these two phrases. The Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him, said: I ascribed to
Allah, what He had not said. THEN ALLAH REVEALED TO HIM: "And they indeed strove hard
to beguile thee (Muhammad) away from that wherewith We have inspired thee, that thou
shouldst invent other than it against Us; and then would they have accepted thee as a
friend.
And if We had not made thee wholly firm thou mightest almost have inclined unto them a
little.
Then had We made thee taste a double (punishment) of living and a double (punishment)
of dying then hadst thou found to [sic] helper against Us.
... This prostration became known to people till the news reached Abyssinia and the
Companions of the Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him, that the people of Makkah fell in
protraction and joined Islam including al-Walid ... The people said: When such persons
have joined Islam, who else remains in Makkah? They said: Our relatives are dear to us. SO
THEY RETURNED. When they were at a distance of one hours walk from Makkah, they
confronted some horsemen of Kinanah. They inquired about the Quraysh and their affairs.
The horsemen said: MUHAMMAD SPOKE WELL OF THEIR DEITIES, SO THEY FOLLOWED HIM, but they
turned apostate. He began to abuse their gods and they began to harm him. We left them
in this struggle. They discussed that they should return to Abyssinia, but then they said:
We have reached here, so let us enter (the town), see the Quraysh and visit our families
and then return. (Ibn Sad, Al-Tabaqat, volume I, parts I & II, pp.
237-238; bold and capital emphasis ours)
Al-Bukhari also records the prostration of the pagans after Muhammad recited surah 53,
but doesnt tell us why they did:
Narrated Ibn Abbas:
The Prophet I prostrated while reciting An-Najm and with him prostrated the Muslims, the
pagans, the jinns, and all human beings. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 19,
Number 177)
Narrated Abdullah:
The first Sura in which a prostration was mentioned, was Sura An-Najm (The Star). Allah's
Apostle prostrated (while reciting it), and everybody behind him prostrated except a man
whom I saw taking a hand-full of dust in his hand and prostrated on it. Later I saw that
man killed as an infidel, and he was Umaiya bin Khalaf. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60,
Number 386)
Here is the other verse believed to be "sent down" in response to
Muhammads lapse:
Never did We send an apostle or a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire
(tamanna), Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but God will
cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and God will confirm (and establish) His
Signs: for God is full of Knowledge and Wisdom: S. 22:52 Y. Ali
The use of the word desire (tamanna) leaves little doubt that this is
referring to the Satanic verses which once formed part of surah 53. This very word is
actually used in the very surah which at one time contained these verses:
Now tell me about Lat and Uzzu; And Manat, the third one, another goddess. `What! for
you the males and for Him the females?' That, indeed is an unfair division. These are but
names which you have named - you and your fathers - for which ALLAH has sent down no
authority. They follow naught but conjecture and what their souls desire, while there has
already come to them guidance from their Lord. Can man have whatever he desires (tamanna)?
S. 53:19-24 Sher Ali
It is no mere coincidence that both passages use the very word (tamanna), one in
connection with Satan interjecting something into Muhammads desires, the other with
the pagans desires regarding the daughters of Allah. It shows that Satan interjected
the desires of the Meccans for these pagan goddesses into Muhammads desires for
wanting to be reconciled with his people, which led to Muhammad reciting verses praising
the so-called daughters of Allah.
Ibn Kathir, who has doubts whether the story is true, nonetheless admits:
How the Shaytan threw some Falsehood into the Words of the Messengers,
and how Allah abolished that
At this point MANY of the scholars of Tafsir mentioned the story of the Gharaniq
[Sam- the name given in praise of the daughters of Allah] and how many of those who had
migrated to Ethiopia came back when they thought that the idolators of the Quraysh had
become Muslims, but these reports all come through Mursal chains of narration and I
do not think that any of them may be regarded as Sahih. And Allah knows best ...
(Source; underline emphasis ours)
Here, also, is a quotation and translation of Al-Jalalayns commentary on 22:52:
وما أرسلنا
من قبلك من رسول" هو
نبي أمر بالتبليغ
"ولا نبي" أي لم يؤمر
بالتبليغ "إلا إذا
تمنى" قرأ "ألقى
الشيطان في أمنيته"
قراءته ما ليس من
القرآن مما يرضاه
المرسل إليهم وقد
قرأ النبي صلى الله
عليه وسلم في سورة
النجم بمجلس من قريش
بعد : "أفرأيتم اللات
والعزى ومناة الثالثة
الأخرى" بإلقاء الشيطان
على لسانه من غير علمه
صلى الله عليه وسلم به :
تلك الغرانيق العلا
وإن شفاعتهن لترتجى
ففرحوا بذلك ثم أخبره
جبريل بما ألقاه
الشيطان على لسانه
من ذلك فحزن فسلي بهذه
الآية ليطمئن "فينسخ
الله" يبطل "ما يلقي
الشيطان ثم يحكم الله
آياته" يثبتها "والله
عليم" بإلقاء الشيطان
ما ذكر "حكيم" في تمكينه
منه بفعل ما يشاء
(Source)
"Never did We send a Messenger before thee " meaning a prophet who was
commanded to deliver a message.
"or a prophet" meaning a prophet who was not commanded to deliver a message.
"but when he framed a desire" meaning when the prophet began to read.
"Satan threw into his desire" meaning that Satan inserts a reading that does
not belong in the Quran, but the receivers of the message accept it. The prophet (pbuh)
had recited surah 53 (Al-Najm) in the presence of Quraish, but after he read the verse
53:19-20 "Have ye seen Lat, and 'Uzza and another, the Third (goddess), Manat?",
the devil caused the prophet to pronounce with his own tongue, though he was unaware of
it, the following verse: "Those mighty cranes (deities), whose intercession is
desirable." The people of Quraish rejoiced in this saying but the angel Gabriel
informed the prophet of what Satan had inserted (into the verse) using the prophets
own tongue. Because of this, the prophet was exceedingly sad, so this verse was given to
assure him.
"but Allah will cancel anything" meaning Allah will annul.
"anything that Satan throws in and Allah will confirm His Signs" meaning
Allah will establish.
"for Allah is full of knowledge" of what Satan throws, as was mentioned
previously.
"and wisdom" in that Allah allows certain things because He does what He
wills.
One Muslim writer, S. M. Darsh, although disagreeing that the story is authentic,
nonetheless mentions that renowned Muslim scholars Ibn Hajar and Sheikh-ul-Islam, Ibn
Taymiyya, believed it. The following quotes are taken from Appendix B: Islam Admits Its
Sources Record 'Satanic Verses', to Brothers Marks book, A Perfect Quran
or So it was Made to Appear to them? (online
edition). All bold and capital emphasis ours:
... Some, like b. Hajar, in his commentary upon al-Bukhari, somehow accept its
reliability ... (p. 100)
He [Ibn Taymiyya], then, raises the question: Could the Prophets say that Allah, later
on, redresses and rectifies, so that He will abrogate the spurious line that Satan has
slipped in and confirm His verses? He answers the question in the light of the predominant
views. The overall view recorded by the predecessors (as-salaf) is in agreement with the
Quran. The successors did not accept that view and discredited the account given about the
addition to the Chapter of an-Najm (The Star): "These are the high flying cranes. And
surely their intercession is to be sought" on the grounds that this account was not
established as an authentic one. But those who KNOW THAT IT IS WELL-FOUNDED say
that this is what Satan has slipped into their ear, and not what the Prophet actually
uttered. But the question in still valid notwithstanding the explanation.
Those who confirm the account given by the predecessors say that this is authentically
reported beyond any challenge, and that the Quran bears testimony to it in the
statement ... (p. 106; bold and capital emphasis ours)
It is clear that B. Taymiya, with his solid traditional background, with his extensive
knowledge of the traditions, with his hard attitude against anything that infringes upon
the pure concept of Islam and with his awareness of the theological implications of such
a story, has no hesitation in accepting its authenticity. Not only does he accept its
authenticity, but he goes on to say that tamanna here, absolutely, recited.
For Allah thereafter says that "Allah will suppress what Satan throws in, then will
confirm His Verses." This cannot all be the desire of the heart, which the Prophet
did not utter" ...
This attitude leaves the critics in a very difficult position. While great scholars
like al-Tabari, B. Hajar, B. Taymiya accept the story as being authentic, the
overwhelming majority brand it as a forgery. Is there any way out of this
dilemma? (p. 107)
The same author also says of Tabaris ability as a hadith scholar and
the authenticity of this storys chain of transmitters:
... He is described in the books comparing Hadith reporter as a trustworthy muhaddith
himself. The authorities upon whom he relied in relating the story up to at-Tabioun
(the followers of the companions), are deemed by Hadith scholars as trustworthy at least
in two chains of narrations. (p. 100)
It seems that those who have accepted the authenticity of the episode of al-gharaniq
were mainly interested in the technicality of the chain of reports. Does it satisfy
the conditions of an acceptable report? THEIR ANSWER WAS YES. What about its
theological implications? Then they started the uphill task of explaining them away. As
mentioned earlier, it would have been sufficient for them to drop the episode altogether.
It is not worthy of the efforts they have made to corroborate or to explain the story. In
fact, there is simply no necessity at all to insert it in order to explain the verse of al-Hajj.
The Quranic verse came simply as a consolation to the Prophet at a time when Allah was
saying to him: "yet it may be, if they believe not in this statement, that you will
torment your soul with grief over their footsteps." {Ch. 18, v.6] (p. 109)
Regarding the reason for the "revelation" of surah 22:52, the author
mentions:
a. As mentioned earlier, the authenticity of the story was denied by great exegetes
and jurists like b. Kathir, Ash-Shawkani, and b. Al-Arabi, but they explained the Quranic
verses of al-Hajj 52-55, IN THE LIGHT OF THE REJECTED STORY! They did not
advance satisfactory alternative explanations... (p. 111)
Even in the above-mentioned article from G.F. Haddad that is found on MENJ's site,
the author admits:
[Then al-Tabari proceeds to narrate reports to that effect, all of them weak,
but the collective weight of which suggests authenticity AS STATED BY IBN HAJAR
in Fath al-Bari (see below).].
7. Ibn Hajar in Fath al-Bari, 1959 ed. vol. 8: [p. 439]
All the paths of this hadith are either weak or cut off, except
for that of Sa`id ibn Jubayr... However, the profusion of the chains SHOW
THAT THE STORY HAS A BASIS, furthermore, there are two other "mursal"
chains whose narrators are those of Bukhari and Muslim. The first one is that
narrated by al-Tabari through Yunus ibn Yazid from Ibn Shihab [al-Zuhri]:
"Abu Bakr ibn `Abd al-Rahman ibn al-Harith ibn Hisham narrated to me," etc.
The second is what al-Tabari also narrated through al-Mu`tamir ibn Sulayman
and Hammad ibn Salama from Dawud ibn Abi Hind from Abu al-`Aliya....
Contrary to what Abu Bakr ibn al-`Arabi and al-Qadi `Iyad have claimed
whereby the story has no basis at all.... When the paths of a hadith are
many and distinct, IT SHOWS THAT THE REPORT HAS A BASIS....
So, as I said, there are THREE SOUND but 'mursal' chains for it, among them
what MEETS THE CRITERIA OF THE TWO SAHIHS but for the fact that
they are 'mursal'. These constitute proof for both those that accept 'mursal'
reports as proofs and those that do not, due to the mutual strengthening of
the chains. (Source;
bold and capital emphasis ours)
The readers should keep this one thing in mind. These are all Muslim sources speaking
about this event! And this is the problem that Bravo has to face, the fact that Muslims (not Jews,
Christians or Orientalists) originated the story of Muhammad reciting verses from Satan.
Because of this, there is little doubt amongst many Islamic scholars or Orientalists (a
term which Bravo uses degradingly), whether Christian or non-Christian, that this story is
authentic. For instance, Sir William Muir wrote:
This narrative founded on fact.
Pious Mussulmans of after days, scandalized at the lapse of their Prophet into so
flagrant a concession to idolatry, would reject the whole story. But the
authorities are too strong to be impugned. It is hardly possible to conceive how the tale,
if not founded in truth, could ever have been invented. The stubborn fact remains, and
is by all admitted, that the first refugees did return about this time from Abyssinia; and
that they returned in consequence of a rumour that Mecca was converted. To this fact
the narratives of Wackidi and Tabari afford the only intelligible clue. At the same
time, it is by no means necessary that we should literally adopt the exculpatory version
of Mahometan tradition; or seek, in the interposition of Satan and Gabriel, an explanation
of actions to be equally accounted for by the natural workings of the Prophet's mind. (Sir
William Muir, Life of Mahomet, Vol. II, Chapter 5:
online edition)
The late Iranian Islamic scholar, 'Ali Dashti, while referencing surah 17:73-75, said:
... Furthermore certain Qor'an commentators state that the occasion of
the revelation of these verses was an incident - the affair of the cranes -
which is reported in many biographies and stories of the Prophet ...
... After these verses [Sam- 53:19-20] came two more verses, which were
excised from most of the early copies of the Qor'an because it was thought
that Satan put them into the Prophet's mouth and that the Prophet regretted
having uttered them ...
Believers in the Prophet's absolute infallibility deny the possibility of
any occurrence inconsistent with that principle. They therefore treated the
story as a fabrication and went so far as to excise the two sentences from
the Qor'an. Nevertheless the evidence given in well-attested reports and in
the interpretations of certain commentators makes it likely that the incident
occurred. The two irreproachably pious authors of the Tafsir ol-Jalalayn
consider it to have been the occasion of the revelation of verse 51 of
sura 22 (ol-Hajj), which they interpret as a sort of divine
consolation sent down to relieve the Prophet of the bitter remorse
which he felt after his utterance of the two sentences ...
The Qor'an contains other passages with the same purport, and in several
contexts makes it clear that the Prophet was not infallible ... (Dashti,
23 Years: A Study of the Prophetic Career of Mohammad, translated from
the Persian by F.R.C. Bagley [Mazda Publishers, Costa Mesa, CA 1994], pp. 31-32)
Noted historian of the Arab peoples Philip K. Hitti is another authority
who accepts the veracity of this event:
Among the urban population of al-Hijaz, and only about seventeen per cent of
the population was such, the astral stage of paganism was reached early. Al-'Uzza,
al-Lat and Manah, the three daughters of Allah, had their sanctuaries in the land
which later became the cradle of Islam. In a weak moment the monotheistic Muhammad
was tempted to recognize these powerful deities of Makkah and al-Madinah and make
a compromise in their favor, but afterwards he retracted and the revelation is said
to have received the form now found in Surah 53:19-20. Later theologians explained
the case according to the principle of nasikh and mansukh, abrogating
and abrogated verses, by means of which God revokes and alters the announcements
of His will; this results in the cancellation of a verse and the substitution of
another for it (Koran 2:100). (Hitti, History of the Arabs from the Earliest Times
to the Present, revised tenth edition, new preface by Walid Khalidi [Palgrave
Macmillan, 2002; ISBN: 0-333-63142-0 paperback], pp. 98-99)
And so does author Benjamin Walker:
In 616 Muhammad, in an attempt to placate his Meccan opponents, spoke
favourably of these three goddesses, but he withdrew his approval not long
after (see section 5.21). (Walker, Foundations of Islam: the Making of a
World Faith [Peter Owen Publishers, London and Chester Springs], p. 44)
The pressure on Muhammad to make concessions to pagans of Mecca continued
to increase, and, according to al-Tabari, he himself was keen to make it easier
for the Meccans to accept his message. With this in mind, in 616 he tried to
come to some reconciliation with the polytheists in respect of the deities
Allat, Ozza and Manat, the three most popular goddesses of Mecca and
the neighboring towns, and decided to admit them as worthy of honour.
He went to the Kaaba and, in the presence of the elders of Mecca, recited
the verses still found in the Koran (53:19-20) calling attention to three
goddesses. He then added the words 'These are the exalted damsels
[gharanik - variously translated as 'females,' 'birds,' 'swans,'
'herons,' 'cranes'] mounting upward to heaven, whose intercession may be
sought.'
The idolators were delighted with the new trend in Muhammad's revelation,
which was taken as bestowing divine status upon these deities and authorizing
their worship, and, although some scoffed at his so-called monotheism, there
was general relief that the tension had been eased. The reconciliation seems
to have lasted long enough for the exiles to receive the news in Abyssinia,
and for some of them to return to Mecca.
But, after a time ('the same evening', according to some; 'weeks' or
even 'months' according to others), Muhammad realized that the compromise
was ineffectual. He then retracted what he had said, explaining that the
additional verses had been placed on his tongue by Satan and had been
uttered by him under delusion. Accordingly the 'satanic verses' were excised
and replaced by others. In any event, the opponents of Muhammad were
not slow to point out that, if the excised verses had been inspired by Satan,
how could one be sure that other parts of the Koran, if not the whole of it,
were not the result of satanic prompting (wiswas) rather than divine
inspiration (wahi)? In response, Muhammad declared that Satan had
tampered with the revelations of the past apostles too, but 'God brings to
nought that which Satan has suggested' (22:51). As for his teachings, he
emphasized, they could not be the doctrines of an accursed Satan (81:25).
The story of the satanic verses has been the subject of endless and bitter
controversy. Historians and commentators like al-Wakidi, Ibn Hisham, Ibn Saad,
al-Tabari, al-Zamakhshari, al-Baydawi and Jalaluddin, are among those who have
mentioned the incident. Later theologians began to deem it heretical to believe
that Muhammad should have suffered such a lapse, 'after he had received the truth',
and the incident was seldom recorded in the later biographies of the Prophet and
is denied by many Muslims to this day. (Ibid., 5.21 The Satanic Verses, pp. 110-111)
Christian author Ernest Hahn cites in an endnote some additional sources affirming
the veracity of the Satanic verses:
(This article, originally written in 1989 and here slightly edited, draws freely from
1. A Guillaume, The Life of Muhammad, Oxford, a translation of Ibn Hisham's early
Arabic biography of Muhammad; 2. W. M. Watt, Muhammad at Mecca, Oxford, 1953,
pp. 101-109. Reference to the topic is also found in a recently published biography of
Muhammad by the Iranian Ali Dashti, Twenty-Three Years, translated from Persian
by F. R. C. Bagley. Likewise, as to the event's historicity, Shabbir Akhtar's statement
is of interest: "... This potentially damaging event, recorded in detail by
a scrupulously honest Muslim tradition, had demonstrated the possibility that the Devil
could interfere with the Prophet's reception of the revealed text ... In quoting the
relevant passages from surah 53 (vv. 19-23) of the Koranwhich retain
universal currency and complete textual purityRushdie perversely substitutes
the original continuation of the passage containing the Satanic contribution (p. 114).
Elsewhere the Qur'an clearly declares that God annuls the diabolical suggestions made to
the Prophet" ("An Open Letter concerning Blasphemy" in Newsletter,
Centre for the Study of Islam and Christian-Muslim Relations, Birmingham, Selly Oaks, May
1989; cf. Shabbir Akhtar, A Faith for all Seasons, Bellew Publishing, London, 1990,
p. 59). On the historicity of the event, see also Yaqub Zaki, "The Quran and
Revelation" in Islam in a World of Diverse Faiths, ed. Dan Cohn Sherbok, St.
Martins Press, New York, p. 43: "... Satanic inspiration is known by the
onomatopoeic wiswas (whispering) and there are two verses in the Quran whose
source was recognized as satanic and were in consequence struck out immediately." It
does seem, however, that "immediately" is questionable. Quranic quotations come
from M. Pickthall, The Meaning of the Glorious Koran. I found no reference to the
satanic verses in Yusuf Ali's popular Quranic commentary! For a better-researched and more
detailed presentation on this topic, please refer to Silas, Muhammad and the Satanic
Verses, -- Ernest Hahn, 2000) (Source;
underline emphasis ours)
William Montgomery Watt states:
If we compare the different versions and try to distinguish between external facts in
which they agree and the motives which the various historians ascribe in order to
explain the facts, we find at least two facts about which we may be certain. Firstly,
at one time Muhammad MUST HAVE publicly recited the satanic verses as part of the
Quran; it is unthinkable that the story could have been invented by Muslims or
foisted upon them by non-Muslims. Secondly, at some later time Muhammad announced that
these verses were not really part of the Quran and should be replaced by others of a
vastly different import. The earliest versions do not specify how long afterwards this
happened; the probability is that it was weeks or even months ...
The Muslim scholars, not possessing the Modern Western concept of gradual development,
considered Muhammad from the very first to have been explicitly aware of the full range of
orthodox dogma. Consequently it was difficult for them to explain how he failed to notice
the heterodoxy of the satanic verses. The truth rather is that his monotheism was
originally, like that of his more enlightened contemporaries, somewhat vague, and in
particular was not so strict that the recognition of inferior divine beings was felt to be
incompatible with it ... (Watt, Muhammad at Mecca [Oxford University Press,
Karachi; second impression, 1993], pp. 103-104; underlined emphasis ours)
Indeed the story is so strange that it must be true in its essentials. It is
unthinkable that anyone should have invented such a story and persuaded the vast body of
Muslims to accept it. Moreover there is a passage in the Qur'an which describes something
of this kind. (Watt, Muhammad: Prophet and Statesman [Oxford University Press,
Oxford, U.K., 1975 (1961)], p. 61)
Maxime Rodinson claims:
"There was one incident, in fact, which may reasonably be accepted as true because
the makers of Muslim tradition would never have invented a story with such damaging
implications for the revelation as a whole ..." (Rodinson, Muhammad [The New
press, NY, 2002; ISBN: 1-5-6584-752-0], p. 106)
F.E. Peters refers to al-Tabaris narration of the Satanic verses, saying:
Muhammad had had an experience of God, and his passage from identifying the source of
that experience first with his "Lord," then with al-Rahman, and finally
with Allah is only one example, and not the most striking, of the modification of his
beliefs over a period of time. We have already noted the presence of the goddesses al-Lat,
al-Uzza, and Manat at Mecca. The same three goddesses appear - and then disappear - in an
extremely curious and much-discussed passage in Sura 53 of the Quran. The exact context of
the sura is unknown, but Muhammad was still at Mecca and was apparently feeling the
pressures of the Quraysh resistance to his message ...
This is the indubitably authentic story - it is impossible to imagine a Muslim
inventing such an inauspicious tale - of the notorious "Satanic verses" ...
What was first granted and then rescinded was permission to use the three goddesses as
intercessors with Allah. It was, as has been suggested, a critical moment in
Muhammads understanding of the distinction between Allah as simply a "high
god," the head of the Meccan or Arabian pantheon where the lesser gods and goddesses
might be involved as go-betweens, and the notion that eventually prevailed: Allah is
uniquely God, without associates, companions, or "daughters." The goddesses
were, as the revision put it, "nothing but names," invented by the Quraysh and
their ancestors. (Peters, [State University of New York Press [SUNY], Albany 1994], pp.
160-161; bold emphasis ours)
Alfred Guillaume says:
Distressed by the estrangement from his townsmen and by the illwill that beset him, Muhammad
was led into making a temporary but very small concession to heathenism. In sura 53:19
he recited the words: 'Al-lat, al-Uzza, and Manat are the exalted virgins [the exact
meaning of the word is not known] whose intercession may be counted on.' These words
immediately won over the Meccans who joined him in prostrating themselves before Allah;
but, as the biographer reports, Gabriel came to him and upbraided him for including words
which had not been revealed to him, and revealed (sura 22:51): 'Never have we sent apostle
or prophet before you but when he allowed his own wishes to predominate Satan interjected
words into his desires; but God cancels what Satan interjects.' Critics of tradition have
endeavored to discredit the honesty of those who reported this story; but it is
impossible to suggest a motive for its invention other than a desire to discredit
Muhammad, the Quran, and Islam itself-and such a supposition in regard to sincere Muslims
is absurd. In fact the incident is the strongest possible testimony to the sincerity of
Muhammad. Of course IT OPENS THE DOOR TO THE ENQUIRY WHETHER HE MAY HAVE BEEN MISTAKEN IN
SUPPOSING THAT HIS WORDS WERE INSPIRED ON OTHER OCCASSIONS ALSO; but as the Quran
itself rightly says, this has been the possible fate of prophets at all times, and there
have been prophets who have not frankly and immediately acknowledged that they were
mistaken
All that these interpolated words meant was that the divine or semi-divine
beings acted as intercessors with Allah, an office which in Islam is accorded to Muhammad
himself. Nevertheless it was a declension from the prophet's doctrine of monotheism
inasmuch as the next step would logically be prayer and supplication to the guardian
angels or heavenly intercessor ...
When Muhammad withdrew these words and asserted that these goddesses had no reality but
were mere names, the Meccans were more angry than before ... (Guillaume, Islam
[Penguin Books, reprinted edition 1990], pp. 35-36; underline and capital emphasis ours)
Guillaume hits the nail on the head in saying that this opens the door to question
whether Muhammad wasnt mistaken about the rest of the verses which he claimed were
from God. But contrary to both the Quran and Guillaume, the true messengers were unlike
Muhammad since they never mistakenly recited verses which they later realized were not
from God. God sovereignly protected their message from any satanic interjections
whatsoever.
For instance, Abu Bakr, Muhammad's close companion and the first Muslim
caliph, is reported to have said:
The Apostle of God died with no one of this community having a claim against
him concerning anything wrongfully taken [for which the punishment would be]
one lash of the whip or [even] less. I have a Satan who takes possession
of me; so when he comes to me, avoid me so that I may have no [evil] effect
[even] on your hair and your skins. (The History of Al-Tabari: The Conquest
of Arabia, translated by Fred M. Donner [State University of New York Press,
Albany, 1993], Volume IX, pp. 11-12; bold emphasis ours)
Here is a man believed to be one of the rightly guided caliphs who had a
Satan which controlled him and warns others to steer away from him when
he is possessed by this evil entity! Yet, if Muslims were to steer clear from
Abu Bakr whenever he was possessed how much more Muhammad? How much
more should one stay away from Muhammad's claims when the hadith literature
admits that Muhammad initially believed that he was demon possessed and
later came under the power of an enchanter?
This leads us to the following series of questions which we would like Bravo to
address.
- Why would Muslims narrate a story about their prophet reciting verses from Satan?
- What did they gain by fabricating such a story?
- Please explain the story in al-Bukhari: Why did the pagans all bow after the recitation of
surah 53, the very surah which at one time contained these verses?
- Since the hadiths admit that Muhammad could fall under the power and influence of
demonic activity, such as magic, then doesnt this demonstrate the possibility that
he could also have narrated verses from Satan?
- If Allah could allow Muhammad to be bewitched and then only later come to his aid, then
couldnt he also have allowed Muhammad to recite Satanic verses and only after that
correct him?
- If you say that Allah protected Muhammad from reciting verses which did not originate
from him, then why didnt Allah prevent Muhammad from falling under the enchantment
of a Jewish sorcerer?
- If Abu Bakr was dangerous as a result of being controlled by a Satan, then how much more
was Muhammad dangerous in light of his bewitchment? How can anyone trust his message?
Now what will Bravos response be to all this? Will his response be more attacks
on the characters of not just ourselves, but of all these scholars as well? Will he resort
to more logical fallacies and question begging as his most recent response amply shows?
But this introduces another problem with Bravos methodology. Bravo is fond of
quoting source after source from one liberal scholar after another against the Holy Bible
and then thinks that this somehow proves his case. And yet when we pile quote after quote
from sources that he happens to disagree with he will simply brush them aside by attacking
the credibility of the authors. He rarely provides a meaningful rebuttal to the evidence
provided by these sources. Hopefully the readers can see that we dont simply brush
aside Bravos sources (or any other Muslim for that matter) but try to demonstrate
why they lack any real evidence. We seek to show that the opinions of such scholars are
based more on their presuppositions (whether it is a denial of revelation, inspiration, or
of God actually interacting with humans) than on solid facts.
If the Lord Jesus permits and in due time, we plan on addressing the so-called
responses to the "Satanic verses". For the time being we recommend Silas
fabulous article on this subject:
www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Saifullah/sverses.htm
Silas has done a pretty outstanding job of demonstrating the historicity of the
"Satanic verses", as well as addressing the common Muslim objections against
this story.
Our readers can also consult these articles:
www.answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/Vol1/3c.html
www.answering-islam.org/Green/satanic.htm
www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Miracle/satanicverses.html
http://muhammadanism.org/Quran/SatanicVerses.htm
Gods True Messengers and Bewitchment
To try to put this all in perspective, we contrast Muhammads bewitchment with
Gods true prophets and messengers. As the following passages show, Muhammad cannot
compare to the true messengers of God:
"And they went into Capernaum, and immediately on the Sabbath he entered the
synagogue and was teaching. And they were astonished at his teaching, for he
taught them as one who had authority, and not as the scribes. And immediately
there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit. And he cried out, What
have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth? HAVE YOU COME TO DESTROY US? I know who you
are-the Holy One of God. But Jesus rebuked him, saying, Be
silent, and come out of him! And the unclean spirit, convulsing
him and crying out with a loud voice, came out of him. And they were all
amazed, so that they questioned among themselves, saying, What is this? A new
teaching with authority! He commands even the unclean spirits, and they obey him.
And at once his fame spread everywhere throughout all the surrounding region of
Galilee." Mark 1:21-28
"Now many signs and wonders were regularly done among the people by the hands
of the apostles. And they were all together in Solomon's Portico. None of
the rest dared join them, but the people held them in high esteem. And more
than ever believers were added to the Lord, multitudes of both men and women, so
that they even carried out the sick into the streets and laid them on cots and mats, that
as Peter came by at least his shadow might fall on some of them. The people
also gathered from the towns around Jerusalem, bringing the sick and those afflicted
with unclean spirits, and they were all healed." Acts 5:12-16
"Now those who were scattered went about preaching the word. Philip
went down to the city of Samaria and proclaimed to them the Christ. And the
crowds with one accord paid attention to what was being said by Philip when they heard him
and saw the signs that he did. For unclean spirits came out of many
who were possessed, crying with a loud voice, and many who were paralyzed or lame were
healed. So there was much joy in that city." Acts 8:4-8
"As we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a
spirit of divination and brought her owners much gain by fortune-telling. She
followed Paul and us, crying out, These men are servants of the Most High God, who
proclaim to you the way of salvation. And this she kept doing for many
days. Paul, having become greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, I
command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And it came out that
very hour." Acts 16:16-18
"And God was doing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, so
that even handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were carried away to the sick,
and their diseases left them AND THE EVIL SPIRITS CAME OUT OF THEM. Then
some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists undertook to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over
those who had evil spirits, saying, I adjure you by the Jesus, whom Paul
proclaims. Seven sons of a Jewish high priest named Sceva were doing
this. But the evil spirit answered them, Jesus I know, and Paul I
recognize, but who are you? And the man in whom was the evil spirit
leaped on them, mastered all of them and overpowered them, so that they fled out of that
house naked and wounded. And this became known to all the residents of Ephesus,
both Jews and Greeks. And fear fell upon them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was
extolled. Also many of those who were now believers came, confessing and
divulging their practices. And a number of those who had practiced magic arts
brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. And they counted the
value of them and found it came to fifty thousand pieces of silver. So the word
of the Lord continued to increase and prevail mightily. Acts 19:11-20
Clearly, the Lord Jesus and his Apostles had power over the demonic realm which
Muhammad did not have.
The next passage contrasts with Muhammad quite well and further demonstrates the
superiority of Gods true Apostles:
"But there was a man named Simon, who had previously practiced magic in the
city and amazed the people of Samaria, saying that he himself was somebody great. They
all paid attention to him, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the
power of God that is called Great. And they paid attention to him
because for a long time he had amazed them with his magic. But when they
believed Philip as he preached good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus
Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Even Simon himself believed,
and after being baptized he continued with Philip. And seeing signs and great miracles
performed, he was amazed. Now when the apostles at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had
received the word of God, they sent to them Peter and John, who came down and
prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit, for he had not yet
fallen on any of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Then they laid their hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit. Now
when Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles' hands, he
offered them money, saying, Give me this power also, so that
anyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit. But Peter said
to him, May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the
gift of God with money! You have neither part nor lot in this matter, for your heart is
not right before God. Repent, therefore, of this wickedness of yours, and pray
to the Lord that, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you. For
I see that you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity. And
Simon answered, Pray for me to the Lord, that nothing of what you have said may come
upon me." Acts 8:9-24
Not only was Simon utterly amazed at the power invested in the servants of the risen
Christ, he also saw that his magic was nothing in comparison to the power of the true God.
In fact, he was the one who feared what might happen to him because of the Apostles! What
a huge difference there is in believing in the true, triune God of the Holy Bible with
believing in Allah of the Quran!
In light of the foregoing, we present the following challenges to Bravo:
- Please produce one example from the Holy Bible where a true servant of God fell under
enchantment.
- Please show us a true prophet or apostle who not only fell under the power of sorcery,
but thought he was having sex with his wives as a result of it!
- Please show us any of Gods true spokesperson having to repeatedly ask God to be
freed from the effects of magic and sorcery.
- Please show us any true prophet or apostle being bewitched for a year.
- Please produce an example of God coming to the rescue of his true servants only after
the servants had already come under Satans power and control.
Now Bravo may cite the example of the Apostle Paul in 2 Corinthians 12:7-10:
"So to keep me from being too elated by the surpassing greatness of
the revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to
HARASS ME, to keep me from being too elated. Three times I pleaded
with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. But he said to me, ‘My grace
is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.’
Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the
power of Christ may rest upon me. For the sake of Christ, then, I am content
with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions,
and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong."
Several things to note from this passage.
1) Even though Paul's thorn in the flesh is unspecified, i.e. we are not
told the exact nature of his physical affliction, being afflicted by Satan
is not the same as being possessed or bewitched. Paul clearly says that
Satan's messenger afflicted his flesh, not that his soul or spirit became
possessed. More on this in later sections.
2) Paul was unlike Muhammad in this respect, since he wasn't affected
by sorcery nor did he start thinking that he was doing something which he in
fact didn't do.
3) The Lord Jesus told Paul that the messenger of Satan was deliberately
sent in order to teach the Apostle not to depend on his own abilities, nor
to get puffed up because of the revelations he was receiving. The Lord Jesus
used Satan's angel to teach Paul to trust in the all-sufficient grace of
Christ to carry him through all situations, which is precisely why the risen
Lord didn't deliver his servant from his affliction. This is also why Paul's
repeated requests to be delivered were denied.
Muhammad's situation, on the other hand, is completely different since
he wasn't simply afflicted with a thorn in the side, but came under the power
of an enchanter. And it clearly wasn't Allah's will for Muhammad to be
bewitched since the former would later send "angels" to
"save" his "apostle." This is why Muhammad having
to repeatedly ask Allah to "save" him, with Allah delaying to help
his "messenger," is really disconcerting and shows that Allah doesn't
have the ability to completely protect a person from the clutches of Satan.
Bravo on the Bible
Bravo tries to take a stab at the authenticity of the Holy Bible. Bravo also raised
some issues regarding Israel and Numbers 23:23, which we will address in the next section,
Lord willing. We will also show that it is Bravo, not us, who has not just misunderstood
the Holy Bible, but has also incorrectly interpreted and misunderstand his own religion.
For now we want to just focus on his views regarding the Holy Bible:
The basic point to note once again is that we cannot apply the Old Testament to
Muslims, as that would be ridiculous to say the least. The whole premise of the
missionary's argument is based entirely on his (mis-readings [sic]) of the Old and
New Testaments. Since when are we held [sic] to these books alone? That is no basis
for "proof". In any case, the Old Testament verse cited by the missionary is
directed to the people of Israel, a specific group of people. Prophet Muhammed (P) is not
of that nation. The Quran emphatically teaches (Sam's whole argument is based on his
*misreading of his* bible, so we suppose it is just fine if we use the Quran, right?):
"People of the Book, now there has come to you Our Messenger, making clear to you
many things you have been concealing of the Book, and effacing many things." (5:19)
Therefore, any "proofs" the missionary claims from his book are patently false.
If he refuses to acknowledge the Prophet (P) was sent down to correct the errors of his
people, he is doomed, as the Quran emphatically teaches. Sam seems to think he can deduce
conclusions using only his bible, but Allah Ta'ala emphatically teaches that he is taking
chaff for wheat!
Bravo then writes:
Anyway, the most important point, aside from the fact that Sam stretches the meanings to
ridiculous limits, is that it is no proof of anything to merely cite Bible passages! If he
wants to prove things in that manner to his co-religionists, that is fine. But we do not
hold discussions here based exclusively on our own books, unless we want to show something
relating to our own religion. In fact, Sam's arguments place him considerably lower in my
estimation, so outrageous are his mis-readings [sic], and that he would attempt to
rely solely on the New Testament and Old Testament in debates with Muslims. If he wants to
preach like that, using only the Old Testament and the New Testament, then he should do so
with his co-religionists. However, the use of such circular arguments when having
discussions with Muslims and other non-Christians is an indication of his low
intelligence. That he has not even been successful using his own books, which he does not
understand, further downgrades his intelligence.
Allah's blessing has been removed from Israel, the subject of Sam's verse. So why should
we imagine that Israel's former condition continued to be relevant to the time and place
and people of The Prophet Muhammed (P)? And what does anything in that verse have to do
with "true prophets"? Allah emphatically teaches that Israel is now among the
losers.
RESPONSE:
To begin with, it is the Quran, not the Holy Bible, which appeals to the previous
Scriptures for verification purposes:
But if you are in doubt as to what We have revealed to you, ask those who read the Book
before you; certainly the truth has come to you from your Lord, therefore you should not
be of the disputers. S. 10:94 Shakir
Hence, it is not I who assumes that I can appeal to the Bible alone to prove my point.
Muhammad told people that if they had any doubts about the truth of his message then they
were to consult the people who have been reading the previous scriptures.
The Quran further claims that Muhammad was inspired in the same way that the true
prophets of God were:
Surely, WE have sent revelation to thee, as WE sent revelation to Noah and the Prophets
after him; and WE sent revelation to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and his
children and to Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and WE gave David a Book.
And WE sent some Messengers whom WE have already mentioned to thee and some Messengers
whom WE have not mentioned to thee - and to Moses ALLAH spoke at great length -
S. 4:163-164 Sher Ali
Again, Muhammad is claiming to be in the line of the prophets before him, not
vice-versa.
The Quran even says that the Scriptures predict the coming of Muhammad:
Those who follow the messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write, whom
they will find described in the Torah and the Gospel (which are) WITH THEM. He will
enjoin on them that which is right and forbid them that which is wrong. He will make
lawful for them all good things and prohibit for them only the foul; and he will relieve
them of their burden and the fetters that they used to wear. Then those who believe in
him, and honour him, and help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him: they
are the successful. S. 7:157 Pickthall
Not only does this passage presume that there are prophecies of Muhammad, but that
there were uncorrupt copies of both the Torah and Gospel available during Muhammads
time. Clearly, the author of the Quran appeals to the previous revelation to verify his
claims regarding Muhammad.
Therefore, Muhammad must be tested and compared to the previous prophets, NOT THE OTHER
WAY AROUND. His book must be compared to the Holy Bible, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. In
other words, it is Muhammad and his religion which come under the magnifying class of
Gods true Word, the Holy Bible. And yet Muhammad fails every biblical test for
prophethood, which means that Muhammad is not a true prophet of the true God.
The Scriptures teach that if any prophet or apostle comes preaching a different message
from the one proclaimed by Christ and his followers then that person is a deceiver. He is
not a true spokesperson of God. (Cf. Deuteronomy 13:1-5; Matthew 24:23-24; Galatians 1:6-9;
1 John 2:22-23, 4:1-6, 5:9-13)
This is not meant to be cruel or hateful, contrary to what Bravo would have his readers
believe. It is meant to convey the truth of what the Holy Bible says. As Christians we
must speak the truth, even if that means that our comments may seem insensitive to people.
After all, neither the Lord Jesus nor his Apostles taught that being politically correct
was more important than conveying Gods truth, even if that truth offends
individuals. (Cf. Acts 4:19-20; Galatians 1:10; 4:16)
This is not something unique to Christians, since even Muslims agree that if a person
comes after Muhammad claiming to be a prophet or messenger that person is nothing more
than a liar, a deceiver. Just as Bravos colleague, MENJ, says:
Muslims believe that the Prophet Muhammad(P)
was the Last Prophet and Messenger of God. By way of clarification it should be stated
immediately that in Islam the role of a Prophet or a Messenger is far more important than
in Christianity. Both the Old and the New Testament speak of prophets who have a very
minor role in the community (2 Kings 2:15, 1 Cor 12:10, Acts 13:1, etc.). In Islam
however, a Prophet or a Messenger expresses the Will of God for a Nation or for all
Humankind. The message delivered by him is binding on those to whom it is sent and a
rejection of him is a rejection of God. The work of a Messenger, furthermore, changes
earlier religious laws and create a new religious community. The belief that the Prophet
Muhammad(P) is
the Last Prophet and Messenger of God therefore means
that after him there will not arise any person who will be authorized by God to express
his will for others and/or institute a new religious direction by a new expression of the
religious truth and forming a religious community around that expression. Any person
claiming to have such authority is suffering from self-deception and/or is lying, no
matter how smart he may be or how many miraculous deeds he may perform.
(Source; bold and
italic emphasis ours)
Since Muhammad came after the Lord Jesus and appealed to the previous Scriptures to
verify his teachings, we are therefore forced to conclude that he too was a false prophet.
His doctrines plainly contradict the very Scriptures he appealed to for verification. There
is simply no other way around this.
On one of his blog entries MENJ quotes Yusuf Smith on the Muslim reaction to false prophets:
If anyone wants to know why Muslims react so strongly to false prophets,
they should look at our religion, and our experience, which begins from the time
of the Sahaba. Islam is truth, and although "Truth stands apart from error",
its defenders are also given the authority to defend it. This includes fighting
false prophets and their followers, by the sword if necessary. The most
notorious false prophet from that period was Musaylima, who was notorious
for his brutality; he tortured the Muslims' messenger (Habib b. Zaid, may Allah
be pleased with him) to death by hacking off his limbs in front of a group of people.
Another, Al-Aswad al-Ansi, demonstrated the falsity of his claims to anyone
who was in doubt through his diabolical behaviour in Yemen. He was killed
by a Sahabi named Fayruz al-Daylami (radhi' Allahu 'anhu), and the Prophet
(sall' Allahu 'alaihi wa sallam) called him a "righteous servant". As for Musaylima
himself, two Sahabis are credited with killing him (Abdullah b. Zaid, the brother
of the aforementioned Habib, and Wahshi, may Allah be pleased with them all).
They are praised for this, because it was good. Musaylima was an enemy of Islam
and a cruel tyrant. (False Prophets
and Muslim Reaction; emphasis MENJ's)
Yet when Christians fight vehemently against the false prophet Muhammad on
the basis that Christianity is true and that its defense is committed to its followers,
Bravo and company cry foul and pull out the Islamophobe canard. The hypocrisy
and double standard is truly glaring and astonishing to say the least.
And here is the problem which Bravo and his "co-religionists" have shown
they cannot logically solve. This is why Bravo must use the canard that the Bible has been
tampered with since he realizes that the Bible exposes Muhammad as a false prophet. The
problem for Bravo is that neither the textual evidence nor the testimony of the Quran
supports the erroneous claim that the Bible has been corrupted, leaving him and other
Muslims in a dilemma.
On the one hand, Muslims must appeal to the Holy Bible for the proof that Muhammad
is a true messenger. On the other hand, Muslims realize that the Quran contradicts the
essential doctrines of the Bible. So what do Muslims do? Instead of doing the logical
thing and conclude that the Quran is a false book, since it appeals to the previous
revelation, they decide to attack the Holy Bible!
But all this simply shows is that there are Muslims who are not logically consistent,
and will even break the rules of logic in order to maintain their beliefs in Islam.
So we leave Bravo with the following logical syllogism for him to deal with:
- The Quran appeals to the Holy Bible for verification purposes.
- The Holy Bible contradicts, rather than confirms, the Quran.
- Therefore, the Quran is a false book.
Both premises 1 and 2 are true, which means that the conclusion is also true.
Logically, there is no way around this, unless, of course, you are like Bravo and are
willing to discard logic.
For more on what the Quran and early Islamic traditions teach about the purity of
the Holy Bible, please go here:
www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Bible/index.html
There you will also find my response to Osama where he appeals to one of Bravos
arguments that I address.
Bravos Misunderstanding of Words and their Meanings
In our responses, we accused Bravo of failing to carefully understand his sources as
well as understanding the meaning of words in their respective contexts. No greater
example of this charge can be found than in what Bravo writes here:
Let me begin with "curses", curses are violent exclamations of anger, profane
oaths, they are utterances intended to invoke harm or to inflict destruction or punishment
upon someone. For example, I may invoke God to hurt Sam Shamoun, or I may exclaim
"may you die under a bus and rot in hell forever". Now it does not follow that
this will necessarily occur. These are curses. We articulate our wish and desire to see
our enemy or opponent harmed or be injured. This is quite different from magic where the
magician or sorcerer is required perhaps to get hold of a personal possession of the
victim. Such as his/her hair, or any personal object, and then use these to conduct an
elaborate "ceremony", chant certain "verses" (abracadabra) etc., the
aim of which is to cause harm. If magic is performed, that is correctly, then the victim
would be harmed whether he/she likes it or not, just as if they are shot they would be
hurt no matter what. Whereas curses are our pronouncements of anger toward someone or
something, and it does not follow that our opponent will die or get shot simply because we
wish that to occur or scream in anger: "may you get shot!"
Now the missionary has not cited any evidence in support of his claim that the Prophet (P)
was effected by "curses". There is no report that mentions the Prophet (P) was
effected by someones curse. There is no tradition that states: "one day a man
screamed: "I hope you get a high fever!" and the Prophet (P) got fever the next
day etc". If such a report does exist then we would kindly request the missionary to
share it with all of us instead of keeping it a secret to himself. We would certainly like
to study such a report, assuming it exists, although we are quite certain that it does
not. However, before such evidence is presented, it is extremely misleading and logically
fallicious [sic] to claim that the Prophet (P), or anyone for that matter, was
effected by a curse. Proof and evidence is required upfront [sic] before such a
claim, or any claim and conclusion is inferred or articulated.
In his desperation he is attempting to not only distort issues, but also concoct false
claims out of thin air and present them as if they have been extracted from a source and
are "facts". However that is giving the misleading and deceptive impression to
the readers, as these are nothing more than the inventions and fabrications of the
missionary himself. Just because he wishes and desires for the Prophet (P) to have been
effected by "curses" does not follow that he (P) was or that such an incident
occurred. Is one required to be so deceptive and dishonest to "disprove" Islam?
Such an example of deception only exposes the missionarys [sic] unstable mentality
and adds more holes into his credibility instead of having any effect upon Islam. As we
proceed with our refutation of his polemics, we will find him inventing more claims and
fabrications.
RESPONSE:
For some strange reason, Bravo has chosen to focus on only one meaning of the word
"curse", and on that basis attack us for what he perceives to be our false
understanding. Bravo also erroneously assumes that magic entails the use of an object of
some kind (but even here he is cautious since he does say "perhaps").
Bravo doesnt realize that curse has a broader range of meaning, and it just so
happens that one of the meanings refers to witchcraft and sorcery. Lest Bravo accuses us
of simply making this up we provide several Dictionary entrees to support our claim:
Curse
n 1: profane or obscene expression usually of surprise or anger [syn: