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Muslims, we do not embrace the pedophilia, rape, terrorism and all of the other forms of
evil that exist in the Bible, nor do we believe that the Prophets
of Allah Almighty, peace and blessings be upon all of them, ever committed such cruel acts
that are falsely attributed to them.
We're only exposing the corrupted bible and the
evil that exists in it. |
Some Facts:
| 1- The Bible's
Prophets, and even Roman Emperors married girls
as
young as 8!
[1]
2- Mary got pregnant
between the ages of 11 and 14 [2].
3- The minimum age for
marriage in the US-State of
Delaware in year 1880 was 7
[3].
4- According to the
Jewish Talmud, Prophet Moses and his followers had
sex with girls as young as 3
years old [4].
Yes, THREE years old. You read it right. |
After you finish this article, also
please visit:
Prophet Muhammad is a Murderer for KILLING the enemies?
WHAT ABOUT THE BIBLE'S PROPHETS' MURDERS that were blessed by GOD?
Cutting the hands and feet of the
enemies in the Bible, and hanging their live bodies on trees until they DIE.
"They fought against Midian, as
the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man........Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept
with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a
man. (Numbers 31:7,17-18)"
Kill everything that
"breathes"
from humans and animals!
Deuteronomy 20:16
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your
God is giving you as an inheritance,
do not leave alive anything that
breathes.
Girls at the age of 3 were forced into sex in
both the Talmud and the Bible. Also, the age consent in US and Europe was as low as
10:
The sections of this article are:
1- Pedophilia and killing of "suckling infants"
in the Bible!
2- Girls at the age of 3 were forced into sex and marriage in both the
Talmud and the Bible.
3- Age consent in our world today only 100 years ago
to girls as young as 10.
4- Rebuttals. See my rebuttal to Sam
Shamoun's response.
1- Pedophilia
and killing "suckling infants" in the Bible!
Ironically, one of the Bible's 10 pillars or ten Commandments says: "Thou shalt not kill. (Exodus
20:13)." Yet, innocent children
and non-virgin women were ordered to be killed by the mass, perhaps in thousands!
3-year old slave girls were also ordered to be raped by Moses.
This section is divided into 2 sub-sections:
1- Kill everything that
breathes!
2- Suckling
infants were executed by the tens of thousands!
3- The
pedophilic verses against 3-year old girls.
1-
Kill everything that "breathes" from humans and animals!
Deuteronomy 20:16
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your
God is giving you as an inheritance,
do not leave alive anything that
breathes.
It is certainly the Bible's principle and foundation to kill all humans and
animals from the enemy's side. If one wouldn't call that terrorism, war
crimes and mass-murdering, then what else should they call it?
2-
Suckling infants were executed by
the tens of thousands:
1 Samuel 15:2-4
2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to
Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not;
but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and
ass.
4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two
hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.
A praise for dashing little children
against rocks as a form of revenge:
Psalm 137:8-9
8 O daughter of Babylon, O destroyed one, O the happiness of him who
repayeth to thee thy deed, That thou hast done to us.
9 O the happiness of him who doth seize, And hath dashed thy sucklings on the
rock!
I find it to be absolutely ridiculous that the bible feeds us all kinds of lies and contradictions about "love your enemy", and yet, we see mass
slaughter of suckling infants and innocent boys, girls, unarmed men, women (old and
young), and innocent domestic farm animals by the tens of thousands! It is clear
that the inconsistent man-altered, man-corrupted and morally corrupt bible is nothing but
a false book, and can not be a Divine and Perfect Holy Book!
I challenge any Jew or Christian to produce ONE, JUST
ONE Noble Verse from the Muslims' Noble Quran that condones killing of
innocent children, women or even hostile enemy men who drop their weapons before Muslims
(surrender).
See the Rights of Prisoners of War in Islam.
Further more, Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran:
"On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel
that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for
spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people:
and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people.
Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many
of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (The
Noble Quran, 5:32)"
Yet, we see mass slaughters and even rape of 3-year old girls as seen in the verses
below in the man-altered, man-fabricated and man-corrupted bible.
Based on this Noble Verse, I can safely conclude, as a Muslim, that the slaughtering
stories of innocent people in the corrupted bible were nothing but man-made lies and laws
that were put in the Mouth of Allah Almighty:
"Know they not Allah Knoweth what they conceal and what they
reveal? And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book (i.e., the Bible), but
(see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture. Then woe to
those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: 'This is from Allah,' To
traffic with it for a miserable price! Woe to them for what their hands do
write, and for the gain they make thereby. (The Noble Quran, 2:77-79)"
3- The Pedophilic Verses against
3-year old girls:
The pedophilic Biblical verses are Numbers 31:17-18 and Numbers 31:35-40. Below,
you will see DETAILED HISTORY on these SPECIFIC
verses from the Jewish Talmud explaining the pedophilia that took place against the 3-year
old slave girls under the direct command of Moses.
While Christians are not obligated to follow the laws of the Talmud in their social
lives, but the historical FACTS that exist in the Talmud about the Biblical verses Numbers 31:17-18 and Numbers 31:35-40 below, and how
the "BIBLE FOLLOWERS" during those days were mostly
pedophiles who literally forced sex on 3-year old girls after Moses' supposed 'Divine'
order is clear indication that the Bible condones
pedophilia.
Christians are not the only "Bible Followers".
Jews are too!
You also need to keep in mind that Christians are not the only "Bible
followers". Jews are too, and what ever they did counts for and against the
Bible.
So while the pedophilic mentioned verses don't exactly specify the 3 years
old minimum age limit, but they most certainly don't condemn it, and according
to the Talmud's detailed elaborations on the verses, as shown below, and what actually
took place during their events, the verses actually allowed it, AS
MOSES HIMSELF ALLOWED IT!
Moses' Commands for pedophilia against 3-year
old slave girls do count against the Bible!
As shown in the quotes below:
"....The Tannaïtic Midrash Sifre to Numbers in
§157 comments on the above quoted commandment of MOSES to kill the Midianite
women as well as the male children...."
"....According to the Tannaïte Rabbis, MOSES therefore
had ordered the Israelites to kill all women older than three years and a day,
because they were "suitable for having sexual relations." [138]...."
"Said Rabbi Joseph, "Come and take note:
A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse....."
"A girl three years and one day old is
betrothed by intercourse. "A girl three years old may be betrothed through
an act of sexual intercourse," the words of R. Meir. And sages say,
"Three years and one day old."....."
The detailed quotes, elaborations and bibliography are in the next section below.
2- Girls at the age of 3 were forced
into sex in both the Talmud and the Bible:
The Quotes and Proofs for Pedophilia
| Please pay attention to the bolded and underlined parts below: The
following was taken from http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/guido_deimel/judaism.html
regarding Numbers 31:17-18 in the Bible:
"They fought against Midian, as the LORD
commanded Moses, and killed every man........Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept
with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a
man. (Numbers 31:7,17-18)"
Children
Sometimes one has to read a passage twice to believe what has been written in the
Sacred Books of Judaism: what has been decreed the way to a holy life by the "sages
of blessed memory... whose words are the natural sounds of Judaism" [131]:
Said Rabbi Joseph, "Come and take note: A girl three years and one day
old is betrothed by intercourse. And if a Levir has had intercourse with her,
he has acquired her. And one can be liable on her account because of the law prohibiting
intercourse with a married woman. And she imparts uncleanness to him who has intercourse
with her when she is menstruating, to convey uncleanness to the lower as to the upper
layer [of what lies beneath]. If she was married to a priest, she may eat food in the
status of priestly rations. If one of those who are unfit for marriage with her had
intercourse with her, he has rendered her unfit to marry into the priesthood. If any of
those who are forbidden in the Torah to have intercourse with her had intercourse with
her, he is put to death on her account, but she is free of responsibility [M.Nid. 5:4].
Sanhedrin 7/55B [132]
R. Nahman bar Isaac said. "They made the decree that a gentile child should be
deemed unclean with the flux uncleanness [described at Lev.15], so that an Israelite child
should not hang around with him and commit pederasty [as he does]."
For said R. Zira, "I had much anguish with R. Assi, and R. Assi with R. Yohanan, and
R. Yohanan with R. Yannai, and R. Yannai with R. Nathan b. Amram, and R. Nathan b. Amram
with Rabbi [on this matter]: 'From what age is a gentile child deemed unclean with the
flux uncleanness [described at Lev.15]'? And he said to me, 'On the day on which he is
born.' But when I came to R. Hiyya, he said to me, 'From the age of nine years and one
day.' And when I came and laid the matter before Rabbi, he said to me, 'Discard my reply
and adopt that of R. Hiyya, who declared, "From what age is a gentile child deemed
unclean with the flux uncleanness [described at Lev.15]? From the age of nine years and
one day."'
[37A] Since he is then suitable for having sexual relations, he also is deemed unclean
with the flux uncleanness [of Lev.15]."
Said Rabina, "Therefore a gentile girl who is three years and one day old, since
she is then suitable to have sexual relations, also imparts uncleanness of the flux
variety."
That is self-evident!
Abodah Zarah 36B-37A [133]
The basis for these rulings is the following Mishnaic passage of Tractate Niddah
(filth):
A girl three years and one day old is betrothed by intercourse. "A girl
three years old may be betrothed through an act of sexual intercourse,"
the words of R. Meir. And sages say, "Three years and one day old."
And if a Levir has had intercourse with her, he has acquired her. And they are liable on
her account because of the law prohibiting intercourse with a married woman. And she
imparts uncleanness to him who has intercourse with her when she is menstruating to convey
uncleanness to the lower as to the upper layer. If she was married to a priest, she eats
heave offering. If one of those who are unfit for marriage has intercourse with her, he
has rendered her unfit to marry into the priesthood. If one of all those who are forbidden
in the Torah to have intercourse with her did so, they are put to death on her account.
But she is free of responsibility.
If she is younger than that age, intercourse with her is like putting a finger in the eye.
(Mishnah Niddah 5:4) [134]
Thus, one "of the many important issues worked out in the Mishnah concerns proper
conduct with women," [135] and the "entire society of Judaism that is, the
community formed by the Torah found in the Talmud those modes of thought and
inquiry, those media of order and value, that guided the formation of public affairs and
private life as well." [136]
While it is reassuring to see there was at least some limit as to what the sages
would declare holy and moral, this ruling had severe implications on the interpretation of
other topics as well. The Tannaïtic Midrash Sifre to Numbers in §157
comments on the above quoted commandment of Moses to kill the Midianite women as well as
the male children:
"Now therefore, kill every male among the little
ones, and kill every woman that has known a man by sleeping with him.(Num 31:17).
[This] refers to her who has slept with a man as well as her who is suitable for
intercourse, even when she has not slept with a man...
But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for
yourselves. From here R. Shimon b. Yohai used to say: a Proselyte girl who became a
proselyte in the age of less than three years and one day, is rendered fit to marry into
the priesthood." [137]
According to the Tannaïte Rabbis, Moses therefore had ordered
the Israelites to kill all women older than three years and a day,
because they were "suitable for having sexual relations." [138]
Bibliography:
[130] J. Neusner, The Talmud of Babylonia, vol.XX.A, Tractate Baba Qamma, Atlanta: Scholars Press 1992, 111.
[131] Ibid., vol.XXI.A-D, Tractate Bava Mesia, Atlanta: Scholars
Press 1990, p.ix-x.
[132] Ibid., vol.XXIII.B, Tractate Sanhedrin 1984, 150. See also
vol.XIX.A, Tractate Qiddushin 10a-b, 1992, 33. "Menstruating" here of course
refers to the ritual "flux uncleanness" described in Lev.15.
[133] Ibid., vol.XXV.A, Tractate Abodah Zarah, 1991, 168. Emphasis
original.
[134] J. Neusner, The Talmud of Babylonia. A complete outline,
Part IV. The Division of Holy Things. B. Number 37. 1995, 704.
[135] Neusner 1993, 41.
[136] Neusner 1995, 7.
[137] Kuhn 1959, §157, 652f. My translation. In general, proselytes
are not allowed to marry into the priesthood.
[138] Ibid., §157, footnote 86, 653. |
The following was sent to me by
brother Johnny Bravo; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
Numbers 31:17-18 "Now
kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save
for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
In the Torah (In the Book of Numbers in the Bible), after the conquest of Midian and
Moab, and the great venereal plague, Moses (peace be on him) ordered that all the women
"who have known a man" be killed but that "all the young girls, who have
not known a man by lying with him" be kept alive for the Israelites.
Since the only females left fit for marriage and wholesome relations were prepubescent
virgins, a Jewish law concerning child marriage was enacted. That law is found in the
Babylonian Talmud:
"Rabbi Joseph said, 'Come and hear. A maiden aged 3 years
and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition.'
Mishnah: A girl of the age of 3 years and a day may be betrothed,
subject to her father's approval, by sexual intercourse.
Gemara: Our Rabbis taught: 'A girl of the
age of 3 years may be betrothed by sexual intercourse.' "
Is the GOD of Israel a pedophile?
| Quick side Note: Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a
man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [among them were virgin
girls]."
Even though GOD Almighty's share of the 32 virgin girls is
metaphoric, meaning that He didn't come down and have sex with them, but if any wants to
call Prophet Muhammad a pedophile or womanizer for marrying (not
forcing into sex) a young girl and marrying multiple women throughout his life, then he
should not only call his Biblical Prophets as such, but also the GOD of Israel
Himself! |
Anyway continuing with the above Talmudic quotes, today, the Jewish law
for marriage, sets the age of consent for females at 11. (Consent is only one way of
marriage) I do not know if modern Jewish law still allows (in theory) betrothal by
intercourse as it was practiced in ancient times.
Thirty years ago, the renowned sexologist R.E.L. Masters and Allan Edwardes said
in their study of Afro-Asian sexual expression (_The Cradle of Erotica_, Julian Press, New
York:1962) said, "Today, in many parts of North Africa, Arabia, and India, girls
are wedded and bedded between the ages of five and nine; and no self-respecting female
remains unmarried beyond the age of puberty."
I emailed a friend of mine, a former Jew who speaks Hebrew, and he further gave me more
information regarding the Jewish view to marriage:
"I have just called up a seriously orthodox friend, a dealer in manuscripts with whom
I do business, and a good fellow, to double check my response, and we are in perfect
agreement. He runs a strictly orthodox and observant home and life, dresses in black,
etc...I checked with him about it, as my own copy of the
Code of Jewish Law is the shortened version, known as the "Kitzur Shulchan
Aruch". The full book is the "Shulchan Aruch", which means "The
Well-Set Table" (The Jews have a talent for clever book-titles).
This is the reference of brother Johnny Bravo's
Talmudic quotes.
A girl must be 12 years old for marriage, but a 3-year old may be betrothed with the
father's approval. As for the permissibility of marriage to a minor (katanah) by
coition...*Fuggedaboudit!!* as they say in the Mafia. My friend assures me that
*humanitarian treatment* is the final authority. If a man did that, that is, had
intercourse with a minor for purposes of marriage,it would be considered a crime, even if
the father approved. A girl that young would be considered unable to make a momentous
decision like that. And even if she were older than 12, if it were done by force, as if
she were a Moabite captive, they would be made to divorce once the circumstances were
known.
Furthermore, and very importantly, the Jews are *required* to observe the "deen
hammalchut"...the laws of the country in which they reside, before applying their own
halacha, or laws. So the short answer is, yes, marriage by coition is considered legal,
but not with a katanah, and never by force. Betrothal to a katanah is OK, but the bride
must reach puberty before actual marriage and consummation. Also, according to my own
exceedingly imperfect knowledge, nowhere in the Talmud is betrothal to a minor by
intercourse *recommended*. If all this were permissible in the days of the Mishna, well,
those days are gone."
3- Age consent
in our world today only 100 years ago to girls as young as 10:
The following was sent to me by
brother Johnny Bravo; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:
Assalam Alaiqum Brother Osama.
I thought you might find the following information of some use pertaining to the marriage
of Hazrat Ayesha (RAA) with Prophet Muhammed (PBUH). I took this info from the
soc.religion.islam newsgroup and it is written by various knowledgeable Muslims informing
that the age of consent in the USA was 10 hardly 100 years ago and 11 in the UK, Talmud
allowing 3 year olds to get married! etc. :-
"(And there is evidence that Ayesha was substantially older. That some of our
ancient scholars preferred the younger age shows, in fact, that they did not consider
marriage at that age to be reprehensible, otherwise they would have preferred the evidence
for a later marriage and consummation.)
At the time the marriage was arranged, Muhammad had not left Makka; he was not the
leader of a powerful community; indeed, his life was in danger. I raise this point because
it is asserted, sometimes, that, essentially, he could have whatever he wanted. Rather, if
this marriage had been an outrage to the community, it would have been *very* harmful to
his cause."
Above comments by Abdulrahman Lomax.
The age of sexual consent is still quite low in many places. In Japan, people
can legally have sex at age 13, and in Spain they can legally have sex at age 12.
(This data comes from the Age of Consent chart, which you can see at: http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm)
The Prophet's contemporaries (both enemies and friends) clearly accepted the Prophet's
marriage to `Aisha without any problem. We see the evidence for this by the lack of
criticism against the marriage until modern times. However, a change in culture caused the
change in our times today.
A 40-year-old man having sex with a 14-year-old woman may
be a "pedophile" in the USA today, but not in China today (where the age of
consent is 14), nor in the USA last century. Biology is a much better standard by
which to determine these things in my view, not the arbitrariness of human culture.
***** In
the USA last century, the age of consent was 10 years old. California was the first
state to change the age of consent to 14, which it did in 1889. After California, other US
states joined in and raised the age of consent too. (Source: http://www.ageofconsent.com/comments/numberone.htm)
*****
In the US-State of Delaware in 1880, the minimum age for marriage was 7
years old. (Source,
2)
Some Facts:
| 1- The Bible's
Prophets, and even Roman Emperors married girls
as
young as 8!
[1]
2- Mary got pregnant
between the ages of 11 and 14 [2].
3- The minimum age for
marriage in the US-State of
Delaware in year 1880 was 7
[3].
4- According to the
Jewish Talmud, as we've seen above, Prophet Moses and his followers had
sex with girls as young as 3
years old [4].
Yes, THREE years old. You read it right. |
As for the reasons why we age of consent just seems to get higher and higher,
Essentially, we need more education just to survive in today's society, and this takes
much more time. This additional education we need to function in today's society seems to
me to be the main cause of the increase in the age of consent in many 20th century
societies. The Common Law age of consent was 10. The French penal code
raised the age from 11 to 13 only a century ago. In England, it was
only in 1929 (70 years ago) that the ancient Christian minimum age for the marriage of
females, which was 12, was abandoned. The early rock and roll singer Jerry Lee Lewis was
considerably older than his 13 cousin whom he married in all legality in Arkansas. Since
then, the age there has been raised to 16. That marriage lasted for about 15 years
and there was never any other "scandal" associated with Jerry Lee Lewis. The
story is quite different, however, for his cousin Jimmy Swaggart (the well-known and
disgraced tele-evangelist) who married a woman his own age but later publicly confessed
that he was an adulterer and a whoremonger.
In the seventh century, 3 year old girls were burned to death or tortured in Europe for
copulating with demons, witches and sorcerers. Strong sexual passions were attributed to
the youngest children. Even Jean Bodin, one of the greatest legal authorities of his
time, said that the appropriate age of consent for a female was 6. (I do not mean to
suggest that 3 year olds did in fact have sexual relations with demons. It is however
interesting to see that at that time it was publicly believed that child-adult relations
were the fault of seductive children who sought out mature men rather than today's popular
belief that it is instead pedophiliac adults who prey on innocent, unsuspecting children.)
In the US (an example of a prominent western country, since the west had the greatest
effect on the world in the last couple of centuries.) They considered a seven year old
female competent on making decisions regarding sex, though it was raised later on (in
1886, after attempts to raise the age of consent, Delaware was the only state to retain
the common law age of seven, while twenty five states set the minimum age at a mere ten.)
In older times, children were not perceived in the same sense that we perceive them, but
the perception was changed gradually, which is due to a great extent to industrialization,
and of course sigmund freud and others came along with their theories and supported these
changes in social thinking (the word adolescent itself was introduced as recently as
1904.)
4- Rebuttals:
My
rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "Osama Abdallah's Obsession with Pedophilia in the
Bible" article.
Refutation
to the preposterous LIES of Jochen Katz about his Bible not containing inhumane murders
but its Prophets!
Back to Women section.
X-Rated Pornography in the Bible.
The Marriage of Aisha by Prophet Muhammad
peace be upon him.
Refutation to the
preposterous LIES of Jochen Katz about his Bible not containing inhumane murders from its
Prophets!
Prophet Muhammad is a Murderer for KILLING the enemies? WHAT
ABOUT THE BIBLE'S PROPHETS' MURDERS that were blessed by GOD? Cutting the hands and feet of the enemy in the Bible.
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