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Rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's Article "Muhammad and
the Arab Criteria of Demon Possession"
By
Bassam Zawadi
Sam Shamoun originally wrote an article
trying to prove that Muhammad (pbuh) was deceived by Satan. I then responded back to his article and now Shamoun has responded
back to my rebuttal.
Sam Shamoun said:
Several corrections and responses to Zawadis comments are necessary. First of
all, the quote from Abu Lahabs wife was made in conjunction to several other sources
to establish the point that Muhammads contemporaries believed he was demon
possessed. Had she been the only person that we presented then Zawadis point would
carry some credibility, since she was obviously a hostile witness who could have simply
sought to slander Muhammad. But when her testimony is combined with the witness of several
other individuals then her opinion isnt as one-sided or biased as Zawadi would want
his readers to believe. After all, her position agrees with that of Muhammads foster
parents:
"Some months after our return he and his brother were with our lambs behind the
tents when his brother came running and said to us, Two men clothed in white have
seized that Qurayshi brother of mine and thrown him down and opened up his belly, and are
stirring him up. We ran towards him and found him standing up with a livid face. We
took hold of him and asked him what was the matter. He said, Two men with white
raiment came and threw me down and opened up my belly and searched therein for I know not
what, so we took him back to our tent.
His father said to me, I am afraid that this child has had a stroke, so take
him back to his family before the result appears. So we picked him up and took
him to his mother who asked why we had brought him when I had been anxious for his welfare
and desirous of keeping him with me. I said to her, God has let my son live so far
and I have done my duty. I am afraid that ill will befall him, so I have brought
him back to you as you wished. She asked me what happened and gave me no peace until
I told her. When she asked if I feared a demon possessed him, I replied THAT I DID.
She answered that no demon had any power over her son who had a great future before him,
and then she told me how when she was pregnant with him a light went out from her which
illumined the castles of Busra and Syria,
" (The Life of Muhammad: A
Translation of Ibn Ishaqs Sirat Rasul Allah, with introduction and notes by
Alfred Guillaume [Oxford University Press, Karachi, Tenth Impression 1995] pp. 71-72; bold
and capital emphasis ours)
It even agrees with Muhammad himself since he initially believed that he might have
been possessed:
I recited it, and then he desisted and departed I woke up, and it was as though
these words had been written on my heart. There was no one of Gods creation more
hateful to me than a poet or a madman; I could not bear to look at either of them. I said
to myself, "Your humble servant (meaning himself) is either a poet or a madman,
but Quraysh shall never say this of me. I shall take myself to a mountain crag, hurl
myself down from it, kill myself, and find relief in that way." (The History
of al-Tabari: Muhammad at Mecca, translated and annotated by W. Montgomery Watt and
M.V. McDonald [State University of New York Press, Albany, 1988], Volume VI, p. 71; bold
emphasis ours)
And:
Then he went to Khadijah and said, "Khadijah, I think that I have gone mad."
"No, by God," she said, "Your Lord would never do that to you. You have
never committed a wicked act." Khadijah went to Waraqa b. Nawful and told him what
had happened. He said, "If what you say is true, your husband is a prophet. He will
meet adversity from his people. If I live long enough, I shall believe in him."
After this, Gabriel did not come to him for a while, and Khadijah said to him, "I
think that your Lord MUST HAVE COME TO HATE YOU." Then God revealed to him:
By the forenoon, and by the night, when it is still, your Lord has not forsaken you,
nor does he hate you. (The History of al-Tabari: Muhammad at Mecca, translated and
annotated by W. Montgomery Watt and M.V. McDonald [State University of New York Press,
Albany, 1988], Volume VI, p. 70; bold, capital and underline emphasis ours)
As a side note, notice how similar the reaction of Muhammads first wife was with
that of Abu Lahabs wife when Muhammads spirit did not show up for awhile:
Narrated Jundub bin Sufyan:
Once Allah's Apostle became sick and could not offer his night prayer (Tahajjud) for two
or three nights. Then a lady (the wife of Abu Lahab) came and said, "O Muhammad! I
think that your Satan has forsaken you, for I have not seen him with you for two or
three nights!" On that Allah revealed: 'By the fore-noon, and by the night when
it darkens, your Lord (O Muhammad) has neither forsaken you, nor hated you.' (93.1-3) (Sahih
Al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 475)
Both these women knew that there was something wrong with Muhammad being abandoned by
his spirit for a period of time.
My Response:
Again purely circumstantial evidence.
Sam quotes people who THOUGHT and FEARED that the Prophet was possessed. However, did they
continue to believe so? Did the Prophet's wife Khadija continue believing that her husband
(pbuh) was possessed? Did she ever think he was possessed? Or did she only give her
opinion as to why she thought that God stopped sending revelations to the Prophet. Did
that mean she was right? As for the Prophet and the suicide attempts read about it here.
So again, no objective evidence
provided. So lets move on...
Sam Shamoun said:
Returning to Muhammads analysis of his first encounter with the spirit, it is
interesting to read that he believed that satan actually lived inside of him and had to be
removed:
Anas b. Malik reported that Gabriel came to the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon
him) while he was playing with his playmates. He took hold of him and lay him prostrate on
the ground and tore open his breast and took out the heart from it and then extracted a
blood-clot out of it and said: That was THE PART OF SATAN IN THEE. And then he
washed it with the water of Zamzam in a golden basin and then it was joined together and
restored to its place. The boys came running to his mother, i. e. his nurse, and said:
Verily Muhammad has been murdered. They all rushed toward him (and found him all right).
His color was changed, Anas said. I myself saw the marks of a needle on his breast. (Sahih
Muslim, Book 1, Number 311)
Yet other narrations report that Muhammad still had a satan circulating in him, even
though Allah supposedly protected Muhammad from the evil spirits mischief!
Narrated Aisha:
Aisha said: One day Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) went out of her (Aisha's
apartment) during the night and she felt jealous. Then he came and he saw me (in what
agitated state of mind) I was. He said: Aisha, what has happened to you? Do you feel
jealous? Thereupon she said: How can it be (that a woman like me) should not feel jealous
in regard to a husband like you? Thereupon Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) said: It
was your devil who had come to you, and she said: Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) is
there along with me a devil? He said: Yes. I said: Is devil attached to everyone? He
said: Yes. I (Aisha) again said: Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) is it with
you also? He said: Yes, but my Lord has helped me against him as such I am
absolutely safe from his mischief. (Sahih Muslim, Book 039, Number 6759)
Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "Do not visit women whose husbands are away
from home, for the Devil circulates in you like your blood." He was
asked if this applied to him also and said, "To me also, but Allah has helped
me against him so that I may be safe."
Tirmidhi transmitted it. (Tirmidhi Hadith, Number 931; Alim CD-Rom Version)
Yet Allah didnt prevent others from being harmed by these evil spirits, it seems.
After all, Muhammad wasnt the only one who was possessed by a satan, as the above
narrations plainly indicate, and one of his close companions and the first caliph, Abu
Bakr, even warned the Muslims to avoid him whenever his satan would come to possess him:
The Apostle of God died with no one of this community having a claim against him
concerning anything wrongfully taken [for which the punishment would be] one lash of the
whip or [even] less. I have a Satan who takes possession of me; so when he comes to me,
avoid me so that I may have no [evil] effect [even] on your hair and your skins. (The
History of Al-Tabari: The Conquest of Arabia, translated by Fred M. Donner [State
University of New York Press, Albany, 1993], Volume IX, pp. 11-12; bold emphasis ours)
My Response:
As for the hadith saying that the
Prophet with the help of God became safe from the devil, well what is the problem? I don't
understand why Shamoun highlighted that part of the hadith. What point is Sam trying to
make? Didn't Jesus have help from God when he wanted to overcome devils? (Luke 11:20)
Plus in Islam we believe that there are
sects of Jinn. Some are Muslim, Christian, Jews etc. This life is a test for both men and
Jinn...
Surah 6:130
"O ye assembly of Jinns and men! came there not unto you apostles
from amongst you, setting forth unto you My signs, and warning you of the meeting of this
Day of yours?" They will say: "We bear witness against ourselves." It was
the life of this world that deceived them. So against themselves will they bear witness
that they rejected Faith.
Surah 46:29-32
Behold, We turned towards thee a company of Jinns (quietly)
listening to the Quran: when they stood in the presence thereof, they said,
"Listen in silence!" When the (reading) was finished, they returned to their
people, to warn (them of their sins). They said, "O our people! We have heard a Book
revealed after Moses, confirming what came before it: it guides (men) to the Truth and to
a Straight Path. "O our people, hearken to the one who invites (you) to God, and
believe in him: He will forgive you your faults, and deliver you from a Penalty Grievous.
"If any does not hearken to the one who invites (us) to God, he cannot frustrate
(God's Plan) on earth, and no protectors can he have besides God: such men (wander) in
manifest error."
Surah 72:11;14-15
'There are among us some that are righteous, and some the contrary: we
follow divergent paths. 'Amongst us are some that submit their wills (to God), and some
that swerve from justice. Now those who submit their wills - they have sought out (the
path) of right conduct: 'But those who swerve,- they are (but) fuel for Hell-fire'-
The hadith which shows that Gabriel said that
this was part of Satan in the Prophet's heart and the devil circulating in the blood
people. These are just figures of speech only to emphasize that the devil is always around
trying to persuade people to do evil.
There are many examples of hadith, which talks
about the devil in a figure of speech. (*,*,*,*,*,*,*) We could also see
this in the Bible in Matthew 16:23, 1 Timothy 1:20
How can the Prophet be possessed by Satan when he
was a great enemy of Satan...
Saheeh Bukhari
Volume 4, Book 55, Number 590:
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
The Prophet used to seek Refuge with Allah for Al-Hasan and Al-Husain and say:
"Your forefather (i.e. Abraham) used to seek Refuge with Allah for Ishmael and Isaac
by reciting the following: 'O Allah! I seek Refuge with Your Perfect Words from every
devil and from poisonous pests and from every evil, harmful, envious eye.' "
Saheeh Muslim
Book 004, Number 1166:
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: When
any one of you is in doubt about his prayer and he does Dot know how much he has prayed,
three or four (rak'ahs). he should cast aside his doubt and base his prayer on what he is
sure of. then perform two prostrations before giving salutations. If he has prayed five
rak'ahs, they will make his prayer an even number for him, and if he has prayed exactly
four, they will be humiliation for the devil.
The Prophet assured us that the devil
could never take an image of him...
Book 029, Number 5638:
Jabir reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: He who saw me in
sleep in fact saw me, for it is not possible for the satan to appear in my form; and he
also said: When any one of you sees a hulm he should not inform anyone, for it is a sort
of vain sport of devil in the state of sleep.
Sunan Abu Dawud
Book 14, Number 2597:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr:
When the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) was travelling and night came on, he
said: O earth, my Lord and your Lord is Allah; I seek refuge in Allah from your evil, the
evil of what you contain, the evil of what has been created in you, and the evil of what
creeps upon you; I seek refuge in Allah from lions, from large black snakes, from other
snakes, from scorpions, from the evil of jinn which inhabit a settlement,
and from a parent and his offspring.
Now yes the devil is 'attached to everyone' in
the sense that there is always a Jinn who is trying to incite evil in the person. However,
the Prophet was an exception because he overcame the devil with the will of God. However,
even if the devil tried to incite the Prophet to do evil, would that make the Prophet
demon possessed? Of course not!
Why don't we try to see what the Bible says about
the devil...
Job 2:3
3 Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you
considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright,
a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you
incited (cuwth) me against him to ruin him without any reason."
Cuwth means...
1) to incite, allure, instigate, entice
a) (Hiphil)
1) to incite (to a request)
2) to allure, lure
3) to instigate (bad sense)
Source: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/words/5/1145124452-6142.html
Shamoun has a problem with the devil
trying to incite the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) yet his own Bible says that the devil incited
God Himself to do wrong! Would that make the God of the Bible demon possessed?
Sam Shamoun said:
This is in stark contrast to the Lord Jesus who expressly stated that Satan had
absolutely no hold on him:
"I will no longer talk much with you, for the ruler of this world is coming. HE
HAS NO POWER OVER ME;" John 14:30
In fact, Christ went so far as to insure believers that they would be given his
sovereign authority to overcome and trample Satan and his demons:
"The seventy returned with joy, saying, Lord, even the demons are subject
to us IN YOUR NAME! And he said to them, I saw Satan fall like lightning
from heaven. Behold, I HAVE GIVEN YOU AUTHORITY to tread upon serpents and scorpions,
and over all the power of the enemy; and nothing shall hurt you. Nevertheless do not
rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you; but rejoice that your names are
written in heaven." Luke 10:17-20
My Response:
Okay fine I also just quoted hadith that
shows that the Prophet was safe from the devil by the grace of God and that the Prophet
would also give ways to his followers on how to repel and resist the devil.
Sam Shamoun said:
Furthermore, Waraqa bin Naufal, the Christian monk whom Khadijah took Muhammad to see
after his encounter with the spirit, suspected that Satan might have deceived Muhammad:
"Waraqa was dumbfounded at this, and said, If Gabriel has actually placed
his feet upon the earth, he has done so for the best of people thereupon. And he never
came down for anyone except a prophet. For he is the companion of all the prophets and
messengers, the one whom God sends down to them. I believe what you tell me of him. Send
for Abd Allahs son, so that I may question him, hear what he says and talk to
him. I am afraid it may be someone other than Gabriel, for certain devils imitate
him and by so doing can mislead and corrupt some men. This can result in a man
becoming confused and even crazy whereas before he had been of sound mind."
(Ibn Kathir, The Life of the Prophet Muhammad (Al-Sira al-Nabawiyya), Volume I,
translated by professor Trevor Le Gassick, reviewed by Dr. Ahmed Fareed [Garnet Publishing
Limited, 8 Southern Court, south Street Reading RG1 4QS, UK; The Center for Muslim
Contribution to Civilization, 1998], pp. 296-297; bold and underline emphasis ours)
In light of the foregoing, the testimony of Abu Lahabs wife holds a lot of weight
since it agrees with the belief of Muhammads foster parents as well as his own
initial assessment of the situation.
My Response:
Again, like before Sam is quoting
someone who THOUGHT and was AFRAID that the Prophet might have had an experience with a
devil. However, did Waraqa continue to believe in this?...
Sahih Bukhari
Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3:
Narrated 'Aisha:
(the mother of the faithful believers) The commencement of the
Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form of good dreams which came true like
bright day light, and then the love of seclusion was bestowed upon him. He used to go in
seclusion in the cave of Hira where he used to worship (Allah alone) continuously for many
days before his desire to see his family. He used to take with him the journey food for
the stay and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again till
suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to
him and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read.
The Prophet added, "The angel caught me (forcefully) and
pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked
me to read and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he caught me again and
pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again
asked me to read but again I replied, 'I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?'
Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said,
'Read in the name of your Lord, who has created (all that exists) has created man from a
clot. Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous." (96.1, 96.2, 96.3) Then Allah's
Apostle returned with the Inspiration and with his heart beating severely. Then he went to
Khadija bint Khuwailid and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his
fear was over and after that he told her everything that had happened and said, "I
fear that something may happen to me." Khadija replied, "Never! By Allah, Allah
will never disgrace you. You keep good relations with your Kith and kin, help the poor and
the destitute, serve your guests generously and assist the deserving calamity-afflicted
ones."
Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqa bin Naufal bin
Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the PreIslamic Period became a Christian and used to
write the writing with Hebrew letters. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as
Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to
Waraqa, "Listen to the story of your nephew, O my cousin!" Waraqa asked, "O
my nephew! What have you seen?" Allah's Apostle described whatever he had seen.
Waraqa said, "This is the same one who keeps the secrets (angel Gabriel)
whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your
people would turn you out." Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they drive me
out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said, "Anyone (man) who came with
something similar to what you have brought was treated with hostility; and if I should
remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you
strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration
was also paused for a while.
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah Al-Ansari while talking about the
period of pause in revelation reporting the speech of the Prophet "While I was
walking, all of a sudden I heard a voice from the sky. I looked up and saw the same angel
who had visited me at the cave of Hira' sitting on a chair between the sky and the earth.
I got afraid of him and came back home and said, 'Wrap me (in blankets).' And then Allah
revealed the following Holy Verses (of Quran):
'O you (i.e. Muhammad)! wrapped up in garments!' Arise and warn
(the people against Allah's Punishment),... up to 'and desert the idols.' (74.1-5) After
this the revelation started coming strongly, frequently and regularly."
Volume 4, Book 55, Number 605:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The Prophet returned to Khadija while his heart was beating
rapidly. She took him to Waraqa bin Naufal who was a Christian convert and used to read
the Gospels in Arabic Waraqa asked (the Prophet), "What do you see?" When he
told him, Waraqa said, "That is the same angel whom Allah sent to the
Prophet) Moses. Should I live till you receive the Divine Message, I will support you
strongly."
See also Volume 6, Book 60, Number 478, Volume 9, Book 87, Number 111 and in Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0301:
Sam Shamoun said:
Now is this at all similar to the accusations which were leveled against Jesus in Mark
3:22? Not even close as the context itself shows:
"And he told his disciples to have a boat ready for him because of the crowd, lest
they should crush him; for he had healed many, so that all who had diseases pressed upon
him to touch him. And whenever the unclean spirits beheld him, they fell down before
him and cried out, You are the Son of God. And he
strictly ordered them not to make him known
And the scribes who came down from
Jerusalem said, He is possessed by Be-el'zebul, and by the prince of demons HE
CASTS OUT DEMONS. And he called them to him, and said to them in parables,
How can Satan cast out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom
cannot stand. And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to
stand. And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is
coming to an end. But no one can enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods, unless
he first binds the strong man; then indeed he may plunder his house. Truly, I say to
you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; but
whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an
eternal sin -- for they had said, He has an unclean spirit." Mark
3:9-12, 22-30
Notice that the reason why the scribes accused Jesus of being possessed WAS DUE TO HIS
HAVING THE POWER TO CAST OUT DEMONS! Unlike Muhammad, they didnt accuse Jesus of
demon possession because the Spirit had left him or had delayed in returning to him, or
because Christ had contemplated suicide as a result of thinking that he may have been
possessed. Zawadis appeal to Mark 3:22 is nothing more than the fallacy of false
analogy since he is comparing apples and oranges at this point.
My Response:
The reason for the accusation is
irrelevant. Because it is still possible for someone to cast out demons by the power of
the devil. Therefore, it was a good reason for them to accuse Jesus because it was
possible. The reason for the accusation is irrelevant, the issue is whether the accusation
holds any water.
It does not against the glorious Prophet
Muhammad (peace be upon him).
Sam Shamoun said:
Now Zawadi may try to use Jesus statements in Mark regarding Satan dividing
against himself to prove that the Quran is true since it attacks Satan as an enemy of God.
Why would Satan attack himself in the Quran if the latter were his work since he would be
divided against himself and could therefore not stand?
This position betrays a certain naiveté on how Satan actually works, at least
according to the Holy Bible. The Scriptures plainly teach that Satan will and does
masquerade his lies in the guise of religious truth:
"I feel a divine jealousy for you, for I betrothed you to Christ to present you as
a pure bride to her one husband. But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by
his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to
Christ. For if some one comes and preaches another Jesus than the one we
preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or
if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you submit to it
readily enough." 2 Corinthians 11:2-4
Paul warned believers from Satans cunning in preaching another Jesus and a
different Gospel in order to mislead them from the truth. Satan even appears as an angel
and raises ministers who practice righteousness to deceive people!
"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as
apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of
light. So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as
servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds." 2
Corinthians 11:13-15
What the foregoing shows is that Satan doesnt mind producing a religion which
attacks him since he realizes that any religion which doesnt originate from the true
God cannot affect him. A religion that does not originate from God and which does not have
the authority of the risen and exalted Christ can do nothing to stop the Adversary or
undermine his cause to destroy the souls of men.
In other words, just because a religion happens to mention Satan this doesnt make
it correct, nor does it mean that it has the right Satan or the real Adversary in mind.
The religion can quite possibly be a satanic counterfeit aimed at deceiving people into
thinking that they are truly opposing Gods spiritual enemy by following it.
And this is precisely the position that Muslims are in since they erroneously assume
that the figure that the Quran calls Satan is actually the Devil. In reality, the Satan of
Islam is not the same one mentioned in the Holy Bible - just as the Jesus of Islam is not
the real Jesus of history, the Christ of faith.
Besides, if this Muslim claim is correct then this means any religion which warns
against Satan must also be true and could not originate from the Devil. Therefore,
Mormonism, Bahaism, Ahmadiyyism, etc. could not be satanic in origin since they all have
negative things to say about the Adversary. Yet all these religions have conflicting views
of God, Christ, Satan, man and the nature of salvation. Unless we assume that God inspires
chaos and confusion it is evident that not all of these religions can be from the same
divine source. They can all be false, but they cant all be true.
My Response:
Sam does not realize that this argument could
also be used against his religion. Anyone could come up and say MAYBE THIS AND MAYBE THAT,
where is the OBJECTIVE proof?
Sam Shamoun said:
As far as Paul is concerned, there is ample evidence supporting his conversion and
encounter with the risen Lord. For instance, Jesus didnt simply appear to Paul but
also to a disciple named Ananias whom he sent to baptize Paul:
"As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around
him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, 'Saul, Saul, why do you persecute
me?' 'Who are you, Lord?' Saul asked. 'I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,' he replied. 'Now
get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.' The men traveling
with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone. Saul got up
from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the
hand into Damascus. For three days he was blind, and did not eat or drink anything. In
Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord called to him in a vision,
'Ananias!' 'Yes, Lord,' he answered. The Lord told him, 'Go to the house of Judas on
Straight Street and ask for a man from Tarsus named Saul, for he is praying. IN A
VISION HE HAS SEEN A MAN NAMED ANANIAS COME AND PLACE HIS HANDS ON HIM TO RESTORE HIS
SIGHT.' 'Lord,' Ananias answered, 'I have heard many reports about this man and all
the harm he has done to your saints in Jerusalem. And he has come here with authority from
the chief priests to arrest all who call on your name.' But the Lord said to Ananias, 'Go!
This man is my chosen instrument to carry my name before the Gentiles and their kings and
before the people of Israel. I will show him how much he must suffer for my name.' Then
Ananias went to the house and entered it. Placing his hands on Saul, he said, 'Brother
Saul, the Lord - Jesus, who appeared to you on the road as you were coming here - has sent
me so that you may see again and be filled with the Holy Spirit.' Immediately,
something like scales fell from Saul's eyes, and he could see again. He got up and was
baptized, and after taking some food, he regained his strength. Saul spent several days
with the disciples in Damascus. At once he began to preach in the synagogues that Jesus is
the Son of God." Acts 9:3-20
The reason why Jesus appeared to Ananias should be obvious. By appearing and sending
Ananias to Paul, Jesus was giving confirmation that what Saul had seen wasn't a deception
or the figment of his overactive imagination. After all, individuals normally do not have
the same dream or vision where they receive messages independently from one another so as
to verify each others' experiences.
My Response:
I was expecting a more solid reply from
Sam. Couldn't the devil have simply deceived both Paul and Ananias? Your defense is weak
and does not disprove the POSSIBILITY that it was the devil.
Sam Shamoun said:
Furthermore, the other Apostles such as Peter confirmed Pauls Apostleship and
gave him the right hand of fellowship:
"And when he had come to Jerusalem he attempted to join the disciples; and they
were all afraid of him, for they did not believe that he was a disciple. But Barnabas took
him, and brought him to the apostles, and declared to them how on the road he had seen the
Lord, who spoke to him, and how at Damascus he had preached boldly in the name of Jesus. So
he went in and out among them at Jerusalem, preaching boldly in the name of the
Lord. And he spoke and disputed against the Hellenists; but they were seeking to kill
him." Acts 9:26-29
"For I would have you know, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is
not man's gospel. For I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it
came through a revelation of Jesus Christ. For you have heard of my former life in
Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God violently and tried to destroy it; and I
advanced in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people, so extremely zealous was I
for the traditions of my fathers. But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and
had called me through his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I
might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not confer with flesh and blood, nor did I go
up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me, but I went away into Arabia; and
again I returned to Damascus. Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to visit
Cephas, and remained with him fifteen days. But I saw none of the other apostles except
James the Lord's brother. (In what I am writing to you, before God, I do not lie!)
Then I went into the regions of Syria and Cili'cia. And I was still not known by sight to
the churches of Christ in Judea; they only heard it said, He who once persecuted us
is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy. And they glorified God
because of me." Galatians 1:11-24
"Then after fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, taking
Titus along with me. I went up by revelation; and I laid before them (but privately before
those who were of repute) the gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, lest somehow I
should be running or had run in vain. But even Titus, who was with me, was not compelled
to be circumcised, though he was a Greek. But because of false brethren secretly brought
in, who slipped in to spy out our freedom which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might
bring us into bondage -- to them we did not yield submission even for a moment, that the
truth of the gospel might be preserved for you. And from those who were reputed to be
something (what they were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality) -- those, I
say, who were of repute added nothing to me; but on the contrary, when they saw that I had
been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been entrusted with
the gospel to the circumcised (for he who worked through Peter for the mission to the
circumcised worked through me also for the Gentiles), and when they perceived the grace
that was given to me, James and Cephas and John, who were reputed to be pillars,
gave to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the
Gentiles and they to the circumcised; only they would have us remember the poor, which
very thing I was eager to do." Galatians 2:1-10
Peter even classified Pauls writings as Holy Scripture:
"And count the forbearance of our Lord as salvation. So also our beloved
brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, speaking of this as
he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the
ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other
scriptures." 2 Peter 3:15-16
Thus, if Paul was deceived into deceiving others, so were the rest of the disciples and
eyewitnesses of Christ.
My Response:
Sam is forgetting that there were other
apostles who disagreed with Paul regarding major issues of doctrine...
Galatians 1:6
6I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one
who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel
Galatians 3:1-3
1You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your
very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2I would like to
learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by
believing what you heard? 3Are you so foolish?
2 Corinthians 11:4-5
4For if someone comes to you and preaches a
Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one
you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily
enough. 5But I do not think I am in the least inferior to those
"super-apostles."
2 Corinthians 11: 22-24
What anyone else dares to boast aboutI am speaking as a
foolI also dare to boast about. 22Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they
Israelites? So am I. Are they Abraham's descendants? So am I. 23Are they
servants of Christ? (I am out of my mind to talk like this.) I am more. I have worked much
harder, been in prison more frequently, been flogged more severely, and been exposed to
death again and again. 24Five times I received from the Jews the forty lashes
minus one.
Lets also not forget the incident of
Paul opposing Peter at Antioch...
Galatians 2:11-21
Paul Opposes Peter
11When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his
face, because he was clearly in the wrong. 12Before certain men came from
James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back
and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the
circumcision group. (why did people such as the Apostle James still
believe that the law regarding food should still be applied? If Jesus came to replace the
law, then why are they still following the law?) 13The other Jews
joined him in his hypocrisy, so that by their hypocrisy even Barnabas was led astray. (so, Peter, James and Barnabas are wrong?)
14When
I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in
front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew.
How is it, then, that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs?
15"We who are Jews by birth and not
'Gentile sinners' 16know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but
by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be
justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no
one will be justified. (why are they arguing over following the law
or not? Why are they not in agreement of doctrine?)
17"If,
while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners,
does that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! 18If I rebuild what I
destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker. 19For through the law I died to the
law so that I might live for God. 20I have been crucified with Christ and I no
longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the
Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21I do not set aside the
grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for
nothing!"[d]
Paul condemns all Jewish Christians
including Peter and Barnabas. We only have Pauls side of the story but Peters
recollection of this story is not given to us in the New Testament.
Peter truly would have known Jesus better
than Paul. There is dispute whether 1 Peter is a letter written by Peter and almost all
scholars, ancient and modern agree that 2 Peter is not a letter written by Peter. Sam may
argue and quote his scholars to prove that 2 Peter is written by Peter, however there are
still many major Christian scholars who don't think that 2 Peter was written by Peter so
at the end of the day we are not going to be 100% sure and therefore cannot use 2 Peter as
evidence to prove that he agreed with Paul.
Acts 4:31
31After they prayed, the place where they were
meeting was shaken. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke the word of
God boldly.
If Peter was filled with the Holy Spirit
then why is Paul calling Peter a hypocrite for eating with the Gentiles and then when
people came from James he got up. James is Jesus half brother, he lived and stayed
with Jesus. Why did he still think that people have to eat kosher meat? We dont have
any account of Peters story regarding this incident. Barnabas is also called a
hypocrite in verse 13. Look how in verses 15 thought 17 Paul is arguing with them about
the law. That means the disciples wanted to follow the law and suggested following it.
Otherwise Paul wouldnt have mentioned it. How could he say those things to Peter and
look what Jesus said about Peter
Sam Shamoun said:
Finally, what makes Zawadis argument regarding Paul not knowing Jesus well enough
to identify him truly amazing is just how inconsistent this position is. After all,
Muhammad was born roughly five hundred and seventy years after the birth of Christ and
could not have seen or known Jesus enough to identify him either. Yet this still
doesnt prevent Zawadi from believing that Muhammad could give a description of
Christ as reported in the hadith literature:
Narrated Ibn Umar:
The Prophet said, "I saw Moses, Jesus and Abraham (on the night of my Ascension to
the heavens). Jesus was of red complexion, curly hair and a broad chest. Moses was of
brown complexion, straight hair and tall stature as if he was from the people of
Az-Zutt." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 648)
Narrated Salim from his father:
No, By Allah, the Prophet did not tell that Jesus was of red complexion but said,
"While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka'ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of
brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his
head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked
behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which
looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.'
The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said,
"He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza'a who died in the pre-Islamic
period.") (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 650)
The reason? Because Zawadi erroneously assumes that what Muhammad saw was a vision from
God. Yet the problem with believing that Muhammad saw Jesus in a vision is that, unlike
the blessed Paul, he had none of the eyewitnesses of Christ to confirm his experience. In
fact, Muhammad contradicts the writings of those who had seen Christ or had seen the
eyewitnesses of Jesus, proving that he was not receiving genuine revelation from the true
God.
My Response:
The reason why I said that was only to
show your logic of using circumstantial evidence to prove something.
So Paul and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) both
did not physically see Jesus during Jesus ministry on earth. But they both claimed to have
seen him, so who is right? Sam tilts the favor a bit more onto Paul's side because Paul
could have verified with the apostles. However, its possible that Satan could have
appeared as someone who looked like Jesus and not exactly Jesus and thus Paul saying the
description would match that of Jesus. So there is really no favor on either side. It all
just comes down to whose religion is the truth or not.
Sam Shamoun said:
Moreover, the problem is not with Muhammad getting scared. Rather, the
problem is with the reason why Muhammad got scared, i.e. the spirit physically tortured
him in their first encounter
My Response:
Gabriel did not torture the Prophet he
just pressed him hard. How is that torturing?
Now as for the rest of the paper Sam
Shamoun's basic argument is that because the Prophets of the Old Testament did not have
the same experiences when receiving revelation such as Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) then this
necessarily implies that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is not a true Prophet. There are some
problems with this assertion...
First, Shamoun assumes that his Bible is
the true authentic word of God and is using it as a criteria to judge Prophet Muhammad.
This is something that he still needs to prove and not just assert.
Secondly, Shamoun is arguing from
silence. He thinks that just because his Bible does not mention these experiences then
that necessarily implies that they didn't happen.
Shamoun recently had a debate with Sami
Zaatri on the topic, "Is Jesus God", which can be downloaded here
. Sam Shamoun says in the 20th minute 10th second...
Your arguing from silence, right, and
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Now let me repeat that again. Now just
because the documents do not say that he said "x" does not mean that he didn't
say "x".
So notice, Shamoun is committing the
same fallacy he accused Sami Zaatri of doing. There are many Prophets in the Old Testament
that we do not know full and complete details about. Therefore, it would not be fair to
say with conviction that they did not have the same experiences.
Thirdly, Sam quotes from the book of
Daniel and gospel of Luke to show Prophet's experiences with Gabriel. But Sam forgot an
important point. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) saw Gabriel in his true original form while
receiving the revelation. He saw him up close and personal and had physical contact with
him. Daniel saw Gabriel while Gabriel took the form of a man...
"While I was speaking and praying, confessing my sin and the sin of
my people Israel and making my request to the LORD my God for his holy hill-- while I was
still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in the earlier vision, came to
me in swift flight about the time of the evening sacrifice. He instructed me and said to
me, Daniel, I have now come to give you insight and understanding."
Daniel 9:20-22
However, this man did have extraordinary
features...
Daniel 10:5-6
I looked up and there before me was a man dressed in linen, with a belt of
fine gold from Uphaz around his waist. His body was like topaz, his face like
lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished
bronze, and his voice like the sound of a multitude.
If we continue reading on you will see that
Daniel was actually terrified...
Daniel 10:7-15
7 I, Daniel, was the only one who saw the vision; those
who were with me did not see it, but such terror overwhelmed them that they fled and hid
themselves. 8 So I was left alone, gazing at this great
vision; I had no strength left, my face turned deathly pale and I was helpless. 9 Then I heard him speaking, and as I listened to him, I fell
into a deep sleep, my face to the ground.
10 A hand touched me and set me
trembling on my hands and knees. 11 He said,
"Daniel, you who are highly esteemed, consider carefully the words I am about to
speak to you, and stand up, for I have now been sent to you." And when he said this
to me, I stood up trembling.
12 Then he continued, "Do
not be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day that you set your mind to gain
understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have
come in response to them. 13 But the prince of the Persian
kingdom resisted me twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help
me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia. 14
Now I have come to explain to you what will happen to your people in the future, for
the vision concerns a time yet to come."
15 While he was saying this to me, I
bowed with my face toward the ground and was speechless. 16
Then one who looked like a man [b]
touched my lips, and I opened my mouth and began to speak. I said to the one standing
before me, "I am overcome with anguish because of the vision, my lord, and I
feel very weak. 17 How can I, your servant, talk
with you, my lord? My strength is gone and I can hardly breathe."
So here we see that Daniel got terrified from his
vision just like Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him did. We also see in verse 15 that
Daniel had problems breathing. I believe that 'gasping for air' was one of the criteria
that Shamoun put forth for someone being possessed by a demon while receiving revelation.
So does Daniel fit the criteria as well? Or is Sam Shamoun being a hypocrite and only
applying it to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)?
CONCLUSION
Sam Shamoun has not provided me with any
objective without a shadow of a doubt evidence to convince me that Prophet Muhammad peace
be upon him was possessed. It is all weak circumstantial evidence that could actually be
used against the Prophets of the Old Testament. Shamoun uses the criteria of the pagan
Arabs at the time and his Bible to judge Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him without even
first showing us why such a criteria is the correct standard to use for judgment. Sam
Shamoun has no case.
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"Allah"
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Scientific
Miracles in Islam and the Noble Quran.
Most of the Bible's books and gospels were written by mysterious people!
Jesus mentioned Muhammad by the name in the Bible.
Did
Isaiah 53 really prophesies about the crucifixion of Jesus? It supports Islam's
claims about Jesus peace be upon him never died on the cross. I also addressed John
19:36-37 from the Bible and proved that Jesus never got crucified, since GOD Almighty
promised that he will protect Jesus' body and not let even a single bone be broken.
My question to all Christians is: How in the world is
it possible for the feet to get nailed on the cross without any penetration to the bones
by the nails, hence breaking part of the feet's bones?! I
also added refutations to Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12,
Zechariah 12:10 and Psalm 34:20, which supposedly prove the Christians' belief
about Jesus crucifixion. I proved that this dogma has no truth what so ever and
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