List of Osama Abdallah's fabricated lies & deliberate alteration of quotes, WITH CLEAR-CUT PROOFS!

 

Quennel Gale

 

Recently Osama Abdallah has gone on a tyraid accusing anybody who disagrees with Islam, a liar and various other names. On his latest article he has accused Mr. Craig Winn of lying against Islam and Muhammad.

 

http://www.answering-christianity.com/craig_winns_list_of_lies.htm

 

 

What Mr. Abdallah seems to forget is that there exists an abundance of evidence of his lies and misrepresentations against others. In this article we will demonstrate many of these lies from time memorial and prove to you once and for all that “a true liar can’t afford to call others by the same name”. We begin here:

LIE #1. ADAM 90 FEET? BUT WAIT SINCE IT WAS WRONG IT ISN’T HIS FAULT THOUGH HE SAID IT WAS RIGHT FOR OVER 2 YEARS!

Here is the first evidence we present to you regarding Osama Abdallah lying, taken from his own website:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/adam_90_feet_tall.htm

While I openly admitted and still admit (because I have nothing to fear) that I was wrong in not posting a WARNING MESSAGE on the top of the article, telling the reader that this article requires further investigation, but I assumed that it was pretty much self-explanatory and that my readers did understand my intentions because I got used to so many contributions to my site's articles.

The reason why I removed this article was not because Jochen Katz exposed me as he so hopelessly convinced himself to have accomplished, but rather because I finally came to the conclusion after so many debates on my previous message board right in front of Jochen Katz' eyes (since he was a participant on my board) that the Hadiths (the collections of Prophet Muhammad's Sayings) are like the Bible; they are filled with man's corruption.

Osama tries to cover up his obvious blunder on Adam by throwing out this information on the Hadith and the Bible. However, Osama failed to tell you that Denis Giron made up this claim which Mr. Katz pointed out:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/90feet-adam.htm

Even Mr. Giron showed how stupid and naïve Osama Abdallah truly is and how he duped him:

http://www.geocities.com/freethoughtmecca/profiles2.html

To show you just how silly Osama is to the apologetic world, look what his own fellow Muslim Nadir Ahmed wrote about him:

Debate Review:

Is Muhammad(P) a True Prophet?

Osama Abdullah vs. Sam Shamoun

http://www.examinethetruth.com/

The foolish, ignorant and sloppy Osama Abdullah smashes the Bible irrevocably, and exposes Sam Shamoun’s Lord and Savior as nothing more than a “rat” on the run, thus winning the debate.

Osama Abdullah, has to be one of the worst debaters I have ever seen. He had probably one of the worst performance imaginable, and because of his stupidity, he was a complete embarrassment for Islam. For the most part, he was self contradictory, delusional, and at times out right absurd, but in spite of all that, in the end, he pulled through and won the debate, proving Prophet Muhammed(P) was a true Prophet and the Bible a corrupt document. To Sam Shamoun’s credit, he did do a good job of exposing Osama Abdullah as a fool who conducts shoddy research. The over confident Shamoun clearly demonstrated that Osama’s website http://www.answering-christianity.org/ is well over rated, and is not all that meets the eye, as Osama would like people to think. But that is where it ended for Shamoun.

See this for yourself; Stupid, Absurd, Delusional. Perfect descriptions of Osama Abdallah. For more on how Sam exposed Nadir Ahmed and his red herring, even though it was Nadir who called Osama all these wonderful names, please see here:

http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/NA/debate-review.htm

 

LIE #2. CLAIMING THAT SOLOMON WAS COMMITTING “ILLEGAL SEX”!

 

The book of Song of Songs:

"Verse 1 appears to ascribe authorship to Solomon. Solomon is referred to seven times, and several verses speak of the 'king', but whether he was the author remains an open question.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 997)"

 

"Two lovers, Solomon and a Shulamite girl, express their feelings for one another, with occasional comments made by friends.  (From the King James Version Commentary, page 945)"

 

Notice how he quoted part of the KJV commentary. Then he tries to argue from his site:

 

The KJV Bible's Theologians and Historians say that the porn-full book talks about Solomon and his lover.  But we don't know whether it was Solomon who wrote this book or not, nor do we know whether this is some ridiculous poem and a lie written after he died or not.

 

One must ask a simple question here:  Why should there be "lovers" in the Bible?  Why should there be illegal sex and disgusting pornography in the Bible? - http://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm

Notice the term “illegal sex”. What is illegal sex in Islam? Dr. Shahid Athar explains:

Concept of Adultery in Islam

God says in the Quran, "Do not go near to adultery. Surely it is a shameful deed and evil, opening roads (to other evils)" (17:32). "Say, 'Verily, my Lord has prohibited the shameful deeds, be it open or secret, sins and trespasses against the truth and reason"' (7:33). "Women impure are for men impure, and men impure are for women impure and women of purity are for men of purity, and men of purity are for women of purity" (24:26). Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), has said in many place that adultery is one of the three major sins. However the most interesting story is that of a young man who went to the Prophet and asked for permission to fornicate because he could not control himself. The Prophet dealt with him with reasoning and asked him if he would approve of someone else having illegal sex with his mother, sister, daughter or wife. Each time the man said 'no'. Then the Prophet replied that the woman with whom you plan to have sex is also somebody's mother, sister, daughter or wife. The man understood and repented. The Prophet prayed for his forgiveness.

Adultery is a crime not against one person but against the whole of society. It is a violation of marital contract. 50% of all first time marriages in this country result in divorce in two years and the main reason for divorce is the adultery of one of the partners. Adultery, which includes both pre-marital and extra marital sex, is an epidemic in this society. Nobody seems to listen to the Bible which says frequently, "Thou shall not commit adultery." The Quranic approach is, "Do not approach adultery."

What does it mean that not only is illegal sex prohibited, but anything which leads to illegal sex is also illegal? These things include dating, provocative dress, nudity, obscenity and pornography. The dress code both for men and women is to protect them from temptation and desires by on lookers who may lose self-control and fall into sin. "Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity, and God is well acquainted with all they do. And say to the believing woman that they should lower their gaze, and guard their modesty" (24:30-3 1).

Concept of Marriage in Islam

Islam recognizes the strong sexual urge and desire for reproduction. Thus Islam encourages marriage as a legal sexual means and as a shield from immorality (sex without commitment). In Islam the marriage of a man and woman is not just a financial and legal living arrangement, not even just for reproduction, but providing a total commitment to each other, a contract witnessed by God. Love and joy of companionship is a part of the commitment. A married couple assumes a new social status and responsibility for himself, his wife and his children and for the community. The Quran says, "Among His signs is that He created consorts for you from among yourself, so that you may find tranquillity with them, and (He) set love and compassion between you. Verily in this are signs for people who reflect" (30:21).

Sayings of prophet Mohammed

"Marriage is my tradition. He who rejects my tradition is not of me" (Bukhari, Muslim).

"Marriage is half of religion. The other half is being God-fearing" (Tabarani, Hakim).

In Islam there is no fixed rule as to the age of marriage. It is becoming fashionable for young Muslim men not to marry until they have completed their education, have a job, or reached age 26-30 or more. Similarly young Muslim girls say they want to marry after age 24. Why? When asked, they say, "I am not ready for it." Not ready for what? Don't they have normal sexual desire? If the answer is yes, then they have only one of the two choices a) marry or b) postpone sex (abstinence until they marry). The Quran says, "Let those who find not the where withal for marriage, to keep them selves chaste till God find them the means from His Grace" (24:33).

The Prophet said, "Those of you who own the means should marry, otherwise should keep fasting for it curbs desires" (Ibn Massoud). The Western reason for delaying marriage is different than ours. When I suggested this to one of my sexually active young female patients, she bluntly said, "I don't want to sleep with the same guy every night."  - http://www.islamfortoday.com/athar19.htm

 

As you can clearly see here, “ILLEGAL SEX” IN ISLAM IS ADULTERY or fornication. So Osama Abdallah is claiming that Song of Song’s is pornographic because Solomon is allegedly committing adultery! He even uses the KJV quote below to try and prove his point. Notice in green shade what he quoted and what the full quote actually says:

Two lovers, Solomon and A Shulamite girl, express their feelings for one another, with occasional comments made by friends. The book has no narrative sections, being composed entirely of speeches to each other. The Song of Solomon is a celebration OF MARITAL LOVE, UNABASHEDLY PHYSICAL AND EARTHLY (though not lewd). While the song is a straightforward love song, not an allegory, Christians do know that behind the bliss OF MARITAL LOVE stands the eternal love of God, which sanctifies the love of men and women. HUSBANDS AND WIVES can love each other with physical delight because they know the spirit of Christ purifies all human relationships (From the King James Version Commentary, page 945)" Full Quote

 

There is no porn found here. This is between a husband and a wife SO OSAMA LIED ABOUT SOLOMON! If Osama has a problem with this then why did he get married and have a kid? Is he committing porn?

 

LIE#3. SAYS THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT WOMEN’S VAGINAS WHEN HE DOESN’T EVEN KNOW THE HEBREW WORD FOR VAGINA LET ALONE FINDING IT IN THE HEBREW TEXT!

 

His sister's vagina tastes like "wine":

"How beautiful your sandaled feet, O prince's daughter! Your graceful legs are like jewels, the work of a craftsman's hands.  Your navel is a rounded goblet that never lacks blended wine.  Your waist is a mound of wheat encircled by lilies.  Your breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle.  Your neck is like an ivory tower.  Your eyes are the pools of Heshbon by the gate of Bath Rabbi.
.......

I said 'I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.'  May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples, and your mouth like the best wine.  (The NIV Bible, Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9)"

 

According to the documentary film "Sex in the Bible" on A&E TV Station, the Hebrew translation to "Your naval" is referring to the woman's VAGINA.  The English translators substituted the word "NAVEL" WITH "VAGINA."  Please rent a copy of the movie and watch it.  This was sent to me by my dear brother in Islam Mike who embraced Islam just recently; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.

 

If his theologians and scholars were objective and truthful then they should have shown from the Hebrew text where the word “navel” was actually the word “vagina”. Look at the Jewish translation of the Bible and see for yourself what the verse actually says:

 

Thy NAVEL is like a round goblet, wherein no mingled wine is wanting; thy BELLY is like a heap of wheat set about with lilies. 7:3 Jewish Publication Society (JPS) http://www.breslov.com/bible/Song_of_Songs7.htm#2

 

shârerêkh 'aggan hassahar 'al-yechsar hammâzegh bithnêkh `arêmath chithiym sughâh bashoshanniym- Hebrew transliteration

 

Now is Osama going to accuse the Hebrew native Jewish translators of misunderstanding their own language now? Why didn’t they translate it as the word ‘vagina’? Also what is missing from Osama’s argument is “the Hebrew word for vagina”. If he wanted to prove to us that these theologians were correct then he should have said “the Hebrew word for vagina is this, and the Bible actually has this word in Song of Songs and it was mistranslated as navel”. Instead he claims some cable T.V. documented something, while not presenting us any transcript or full video clip of this show to verify if it is true or not. However, Osama’s fantastical claim leaves Islam in a flux. As the Learner mentions:

 

As far as the first question is concerned, it is obvious that the Qur'an, as any decent and sober literature would do, has only avoided direct reference (in words) to the male sexual organ. Through the words that it has used, the Qur'an has made a complete euphemistic reference to the point of emanation of the sperm, while successfully avoiding naming it. Naming it would definitely have negatively affected the literary value of the Qur'an. (Learner of understanding Islam site)

 

The Quran does in fact explicitly refer to the sexual parts of a human, specifically the sexual areas of a woman, in rather vulgar fashion. For instance, in narrating the virginal conception and birth of Jesus the Quran unashamedly refers to Mary as one that guarded her sexual organ:

 

And (remember) her who guarded her SEXUAL ORGAN (Arabic-farjahaa): We breathed into her from Our Spirit, and We made her and her son a Sign for all people. S. 21:91

 

And Mary the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her SEXUAL ORGAN (Arabic-farjahaa) and We breathed INTO IT of Our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His revelations, and was one of the devout (servants). S. 66:12

 

Mahmoud M. Ayoub contrasts the birth narratives of the Gospel of Luke with that mentioned in the Quran. All bold and capital emphasis is ours:

 

"The language of this verse (author- Luke 1:35) is clearly circumspect. It implies no sexual union or divine generation of any kind. Furthermore, while Luke's description agrees both in form and spirit with the Qur'anic idea of the conception of Christ, the language of the Qur'an IS FAR MORE GRAPHIC AND OPEN TO INTERPRETATION." (Christian-Muslim Encounters, ed. Yvonne Yazbeck Haddad & Wadi Z. Haddad [University Press of Florida, 1995], p. 67)

 

He goes on to say:

 

"...Then of Mary He (author-allegedly God) continues: 'And she who guarded well [lit. fortified] her chastity [lit. GENERATIVE ORGAN], and thus We breathed INTO HER of our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign [or miracle, 'Aya] for all beings' (S. 21:90-91) ...

 

"In the second instance the Qur'an speaks of Mary as a righteous woman who lived in strict chastity and obedience to God: 'And Mary daughter of 'Imran who guarded well her GENERATIVE ORGAN farjaha, and thus We breathed INTO HER of our spirit' (S. 66:12). THE BOLD AND GRAPHIC STATEMENT APPEARS TO HAVE SHOCKED TRADITIONISTS AND COMMENTATORS, so that most of them tried to cover it up with different and FARFETCHED significations or glossed over it with out comment...

 

"Ibn Kathir interprets the phrase 'guarded well her generative organ' to mean: 'safeguarded and protected it. Guarding well ihsan signifies chastity and high birth.' He comments on the phrase, 'and thus We breathed into it of our spirit' thus 'that is, through the angel Gabriel. This is because God sent him to her, and he took for her the form of a man of good stature (S. 19:17). God commanded him to breathe INTO THE BREAST OF HER CHEMISE. HIS BREATH WENT DOWN AND PENETRATED HER GENERATIVE ORGAN, AND THUS CAUSED HER TO CONCEIVE JESUS..." (Ibid.)

 

Finally:

 

"Abu Ja'far al-Tusi, the jurist doctor of the Shi'i community, as well as his well known disciple al-Tabarsi, read the words, 'We breathed INTO IT' literally. Al-Tusi says: 'It has been held that Gabriel BREATHED INTO MARY'S GENERATIVE ORGAN then God created Christ in it'..." (Ibid., p. 68)

 

Here is Ibn Kathir's commentary on S. 66:12:

 

<And Maryam, the daughter of 'Imran who guarded her chastity (PRIVATE PART).> meaning who protected and purified her honor, by being chaste and free of immorality,

 

<And We breathed INTO IT (PRIVATE PART) through Our Ruh,> meaning, through the angel Jibril. Allah sent the angel Jibril to Maryam, and he came to her in the shape of a man in every respect. Allah commanded him TO BLOW into a gap of her garment and that breath went into her womb THROUGH HER PRIVATE PART; this is how 'Isa was conceived. This is why Allah said here,

 

<And We breathed INTO IT through Our Ruh, and she testified to the truth of her Lords Kalimat, and His Kutub,> meaning His decree and His legislation. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir - Abridged, Volume 10, Surat At-Tagabun to the end of the Qur'an, pp. 75-76; bold and capital emphasis ours)

 

Muhammad Asad also recognized that the term farjahaa literally meant the sexual area of a woman. Asad comments on S. 21:91 and states:

 

"... As for the description of Mary as allati ahsanat farjaha, idiomatically denoting 'one who guarded her chastity' (lit., 'HER PRIVATE PARTS')..." (Asad, The Message of the Qur'an [Dar Al-Andalus Limited, 3 Library Ramp, Gibraltar, rpt. 1993], p. 500, f. 87; bold and capital emphasis ours)

 

Another rather explicit reference to a woman's sexual area includes:

 

"Surely for the godfearing awaits a place of security, gardens and vineyards, and maidens of SWELLING BREASTS (kawa'ib), like of age, and a cup overflowing." S. 78:33 Arberry (see also Dawood, Rodwell)

 

Ibn Kathir comments on the meaning of kawa'ib:

<And vineyards, and Kawa'ib Atrab,> meaning, wide-eyed maidens WITH FULLY DEVELOPED BREASTS. Ibn 'Abbas, Mujahid and others have said,

 

<Kawa'ib> "This means ROUND BREASTS. They meant by this THAT THE BREASTS OF THESE GIRLS WILL BE FULLY ROUNDED AND NOT SAGGING, because they will be virgins, equal in age..." (Ibid., pp. 333-334; bold and capital emphasis ours)

 

To imagine that in paradise one finds women with firm round breasts for sexual pleasure is rather incredulous to say the least. Not only is the Hebrew word for “vagina” not found in the verse Osama claims (Song of Songs 7:2) but an explicit reference to the female sexual organ is found in the Quran. In Osama’s words we now have

 

PORN IN THE SEX-FILLED QURAN ALONG WITH BIG BREASTED WOMEN!

 

 

LIE#4. SAYS THE ORIGNAL PEOPLE OF KEDAR (THE ARABS) ARE 100% MUSLIM

6.  "I, the LORD , have called you in righteousness; I will take hold of your hand. I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles,
......
11.  Let the desert and its towns raise their voices; let the settlements where Kedar lives rejoice. Let the people of Sela sing for joy; let them shout from the mountaintops.

Important Note:  Kedar is the son of Ishmael peace be upon him: "These are the names of the sons of Ishmael, listed in the order of their birth: Nebaioth the firstborn of Ishmael, Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam, (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 25:13)"

The people of Kedar are the original Arabs.  They are today's Saudis and Yemenis, and these are 100% Muslims!  There is not a single Saudi or Yemeni who is Christian today!  They are nothing but Muslims.  So the "light of the Gentiles" and "Kedar Lives rejoice" are clear Prophecies and Signs for the Divine and Truthful Religion of Islam. - http://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah.htm

 

Notice how Osama fails to present any statistics to prove this fantastic claim of his. However, like any lie of Mr. Abdallah, this too can easily be exposed as false. You can go to these sites and find information on Yemeni Christians and Arab Christians:

 

http://www.opendoors.org.au/pgs/prfl/ym.htm

 

http://www.strategicnetwork.org/index.php?loc=pe&pe=2069&

 

http://www.persecution.org/Countries/yemen.html

 

http://www.domini.org/openbook/sau20010719.htm

 

It is a well known fact that all Arabs on the Arabic Peninsular aren’t Muslim. Hence Osama’s lie is nothing more than an appeal to the emotion of the reader in trying to authenticate his false argument.

 

LIE#5.  SAYS THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT DEFLORATION OF A WOMAN BUT WAIT! HE CAN’T FIND IT FROM THE BIBLE BUT THE TALMUD!

 

Males in the Bible did it to females:

Before we get into the fathers and daughters issue, it is important first to know that some males in the Bible did it to females. Let us look at the following information:

 

"There were, of course, others who might examine accused brides. Dwyer, 63, notes the role of doctors in modern Morocco. In pre-modern times this role was performed by midwives (see Westermarck, Marriage Ceremonies in Morocco, 229f.; Marcus, p. 324. M. Friedman, Ribbui Nashim Beyisra'el [Tel Aviv: Mosad Bialik etc., 1986], 169-170, 263). According to the Midrash Hagadol, Isaac himself examined Rebekah digitally before their marriage (Midrash Hagadol to Genesis 24:67 [ed. M. Margulies; Jerusalem: Mosad Harav Kook, 1967, 411]; according to Pirke Rabbi Eliezer, chap. 16, p. 38a, the examination consisted of digital defloration [ref. courtesy of my colleague, Prof. Judah Goldin]). According to the aprocryphal Book of James, sec. 19-20, Mary was likewise examined digitally for virginity by Salome (New Testament Apocrypha, ed. E. Hennecke & W. Schneemelcher, 385; ref. courtesy of Prof. Tikva Frymer-Kensky and my colleague Prof. Robert A. Kraft)." () [Note #13, read toward the end of the note]

 

To protect Mr. Jeffrey H. Tigay's article from vanishing one day on the internet as many valuable articles did before, I have copied his entire article on my site at: www.answering-christianity.com/accused_brides.htm .

Now let’s begin to analyze his evidence to see if both he and Mr. Tigay are truthful.

"There were, of course, others who might examine accused brides. Dwyer, 63, notes the role of doctors in modern Morocco. In pre-modern times this role was performed by midwives (see Westermarck, Marriage Ceremonies in Morocco, 229f.; Marcus, p. 324. M. Friedman, Ribbui Nashim Beyisra'el [Tel Aviv: Mosad Bialik etc., 1986], 169-170, 263).

This part of his quote talks about "accused brides". Accused of what? Namely fornication before marriage. Now if Osama Abdallah is correct and the bible sanctions deflowering then

1. Where is the bible verse here?
2. Why is it talking about modern times instead of biblical times?
3. How can virgins be accused brides if deflowering was for anyone?
4. If virgins weren’t accused then deflowering wouldn’t be necessary would it?

Basically from reading the quote carefully we only see that, at best, “deflowering” could only be for accused brides not everyone. We must also note that Morocco is a Muslim country so why are Muslims adhering to this practice? Notice that no bible verse as a basis can be used to justify this action.

According to the Midrash Hagadol, Isaac himself examined Rebekah digitally before their marriage (Midrash Hagadol to Genesis 24:67 [ed. M. Margulies; Jerusalem: Mosad Harav Kook, 1967, 411];

Notice what this quote says:

According to the Midrash Hagadol

Osama Abdallah thinks that the Midrash Hagadol is the Bible! LOL!!! Here is what Genesis 24:67 says:

Isaac brought her into the tent of his mother Sarah, and he married Rebekah. So she became his wife, and he loved her; and Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.

There is no way possible to garner the idea of defloration here. Such a practice can only be justified by outside biblical information. Osama can’t use the bible and claim that this practice is justified. Basically his entire argument rests upon how others interpolated the bible to fit their own agenda. Osama has a very bad habit of using hypocrisy. Notice his claims against the Bible:

The Gospel of Mark:

"Although there is no direct internal evidence of authorship, it was the unanimous testimony of the early church that this Gospel was written by John Mark. (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1488)"

&So, in reality, we don't really know whether Mark was the sole author of this Gospel or not. And since The New Testament wasn't even documented on paper until 150-300 years (depending on what Christian you talk to) after Jesus, then how are we to know for sure that the current "Gospel of Mark" wasn't written by some pro of Mark? - http://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm

Here, he claims that we shouldn’t trust certain books in the Bible because they were allegedly 150-300 years even though he appeals to the Midrash! Look at when the Midrash was composed:

MIDRASH:

In Judaism, a large collection of writings that examine the Hebrew Bible in the light of oral tradition. Midrashic activity reached its height in the 2nd cent. AD with the schools of Ishmael ben Elisha and Akiba ben Joseph. The Midrashim are divided into two groups: Halakhah, which clarify legal issues; and Haggadah, nonlegal writings intended simply to enlighten. The Midrashim are extensively quoted in the Talmud. ( Source)

So, in one place Abdallah says its wrong to use material compiled 200 years after it is written. But in another instance, this hypocrite says that it is perfectly fine to use legends, composed in the 2nd century A.D., DEALING WITH GENESIS WHICH PROCEEDED IT BY OVER 2000 YEARS! HOW FOOLISH CAN YOU GET!!!

according to Pirke Rabbi Eliezer, chap. 16, p. 38a, the examination consisted of digital defloration [ref. courtesy of my colleague, Prof. Judah Goldin]).

But in his paper Osama says:

some males in the Bible did it to females.

But what does his quote say:

according to Pirke Rabbi Eliezer

Osama Abdallah thinks that a Rabbi is the bible!! LOL!!! Need we say more?

 

LIE#6.  USES FALSE EVIDENCE WHICH SAYS MARY EXAMINES SALOME USING DEFLORATION AS EVIDENCE AGAINST THE BIBLE!

 

According to the aprocryphal Book of James, sec. 19-20, Mary was likewise examined digitally for virginity by Salome (New Testament Apocrypha, ed. E. Hennecke & W. Schneemelcher, 385; ref. courtesy of Prof. Tikva Frymer-Kensky and my colleague Prof. Robert A. Kraft)."

 

Osama's folly knows no bounds. He is even willing to quote from the apocryphal to prove his point, even though his paper claims to be based on information from the Bible!! It is obvious that neither Mr.Tigay nor Mr. Abdallah have actually read the apocrypha book of James for it says nothing close to what they claim:

 

XIX. I And behold a woman coming down from the hillcountry, and she said to me: Man, whither goest thou ? And I said: I seek a midwife of the Hebrews. And she answered and said unto me: Art thou of Israel ? And I said unto her: Yea. And she said: And who is she that bringeth forth in the cave ? And I said: She that is betrothed unto me. And she said to me: Is she not thy wife? And I said to her: It is Mary that was nurtured up in the temple of the Lord: and I received her to wife by lot: and she is not my wife, but she hath conception by the Holy Ghost.

 

And the midwife said unto him: Is this the truth? And Joseph said unto her: Come hither and see. And the midwife went with him.

 

2 And they stood in the place of the cave: and behold a bright cloud overshadowing the cave. And the midwife said: My soul is magnified this day, because mine eyes have seen marvellous things: for salvation is born unto Israel. And immediately the cloud withdrew itself out of the cave, and a great light appeared in the cave so that our eyes could not endure it. And by little and little that light withdrew itself until the young child appeared: and it went and took the breast of its mother Mary.

 

And the midwife cried aloud and said: Great unto me to-day is this day, in that ! have seen this new sight. 3 And the midwife went forth of the cave and Salome met her. And she said to her: Salome, Salome, a new sight have I to tell thee. A virgin hath brought forth, which her nature alloweth not. And Salome said: As the Lord my God liveth, if I make not trial and prove her nature I will not believe that a virgin hath brought forth.

 

XX. 1 And the midwife went in and said unto Mary: Order thyself, for there is no small contention arisen concerning thee. Arid Salome made trial and cried out and said: Woe unto mine iniquity and mine unbelief, because I have tempted the living God, and lo, my hand falleth away from me in fire. And she bowed her knees unto the Lord, saying: O God of my fathers, remember that I am the seed of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob: make me not a public example unto the children of Israel, but restore me unto the poor, for thou knowest, Lord, that in thy name did I perform my cures, and did receive my hire of thee. 3 And lo, an angel of the Lord appeared, saying unto her: Salome, Salome, the Lord hath hearkened to thee: bring thine hand near unto the young child and take him up, and there shall be unto thee salvation and joy. 4 And Salome came near and took him up, saying: I will do him worship, for a great king is born unto Israel. And behold immediately Salome was healed: and she went forth of the cave justified. And Io, a voice saying: Salome, Salome, tell none of the marvels which thou hast seen, until the child enter into Jerusalem.

 

http://wesley.nnu.edu/noncanon/gospels/gosjames.htm

 

As you can see, no such act of defloration took place here. No such conclusion can be reached by reading the text itself. One can only interpolate this idea back in to make it fit. The text shows that Salome wanted to bring Mary to trial because of her own unbelief. What made Salome believe Mary wasn't defloration, but the healing power of the child Jesus who healed her hand!! This is incredible and any attempt to appeal to this book must be rejected as false in defense of defloration.

 

LIE#7.  BELIEVES SONG OF SONGS (BIBLE IN GENERAL) IS PORN BUT FINDS MUHAMMAD IN THIS SAME BIBLE!

 

Here is some other prophecies about the coming of the holy prophet of God , Muhammad(SAW), and pilgrimage in Bible. - http://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_mecca.htm

Despite of all Mr. Abdallah’s propaganda, twisting of bible verses and language concepts, Muhammad is never ever mentioned, by name, as being prophesied as a prophet or an apostle whatsoever. Muslims have clearly stated that "they want Christians to prove where Jesus claimed to be God" when they can't even show you where "Muhammad was mentioned as a prophet or a messenger of God". An example of Islamic tongue twisting is shown in the word "Machamad" and we must point out that Osama believes that the bible is corrupted. In this same corrupted book (along with trying to claim that every word which looks similar to Muhammad refers to him) he tries to find his prophet:

1. MACHAMMADIM - From "MACHAMAD" which in this particular verse, the words "altogether lovely" was translated from mahmad (). is translated into "lovely". "Altogether" is added as a contextual reference to "v'chulo" which means "in entirety" or "absolutely". "MACHAMAD" means "desirable, praiseworthy, beautiful, etc". Though it is archaic, it is found elsewhere in the Bible to describe precious and coveted items. The fact that this "MACHAMAD" evidently may well be the Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him) has already been thoroughly outlined and established.

To add further weight to these argument, let us take a closer look at this four character word. The way this word is written is Hebrew is . That happens to be the EXACT same way Muhammad's name is written in Hebrew. (Song of Song's 5:16 prophesy Muhammad; Found on www.answering-christianity.com)

Contradicts

Again, we don't know who wrote the book. Please visit X-Rated Pornography in the Bible regarding this PORNFUL and SICK book. (Just who were the real authors of the Bible? ; Found on www.answering-christianity.com)

It is totally self-contradicting to find Muhammad in a book of the bible and then mention elsewhere that this VERY SAME BOOK is pornful and sick and isn't from God!! Even the word "MACHAMMADIM", which Osama mentions, is used to describe objects in Hebrew which implies that if you are talking about something lovely, etc., you are referring to Muhammad!! The only way you can conclude that this refers to Muhammad is to hope for extreme wishful thinking and believe that everybody is blind and deaf enough to accept this conclusion. Hence, we must also conclude that Muhammad, with the added proof given by Osama Abdallah is found in a pornful, sick man made book written by some porn-hungry guy! This means that

1. Muhammad is a porno prophet
2. Man made tampering prophesied Muhammad
3. Muhammad is a prophet prophesied in a porn book not written by God therefore he isn't a prophet of God but of porn.
4. Islam is a religion that verifies porn.

This is how these Muslim apologists think my friend when it comes to propagating Islam. One day the Bible prophesies Muhammad, the next day it isn't from God or is pornful. Now the question that begs to be answered is "If the Bible isn't from God and Muhammad is found in it then how can Muhammad be a prophet of God"? Or "If you don't know if the entire Bible isn't from God how do you know these verses with Muhammad are from God"?

LIE#8.  BELIEVES THE KAABA IS THE HOUSE OF GOD MENTIONED IN ISAIAH 60!

 

"And I Will glorify the house of my glory", and it refers to the Ka'ba in Mekka , the Sacred House for God's glory." -http://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_mecca.htm

 

First of all we find nowhere in which the word “Kaaba” is mentioned in the bible so how can Osama legitimately prove that this is the truth? He has to resort to propaganda and read this back into the Bible. If you read his site closely, particularly in his "trinity sections" you will recognize that he continuously issues this challenge "show me where Jesus claimed to be God". If you can't answer his challenge then it would mean that Jesus isn't God since we never seen him say this in the Bible.

 

One must immediately recognize the hypocrisy of this stance since Osama is trying to prove that the Kaaba is the sacred house mentioned in the Bible. He claims that the Trinity is false because it isn’t mentioned in the Bible. So, we must ask him this question, "How can you prove that this refers to the Kaaba which also isn't mentioned?" The same Bible that this propagandist uses mentions this about the "TEMPLE and the HOUSE OF GOD"

 

Then David said, "THE HOUSE OF THE LORD GOD is to be here, and also the altar of burnt offering for Israel." So David gave orders to assemble the aliens LIVING IN ISRAEL, and from among them he appointed stonecutters to prepare dressed stone for building the house of God. 1 Chronicles 22:1-3

 

The duty of the Levites was to help Aaron's descendants in the service of THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD : to be in charge of the courtyards, the side rooms, the purification of all sacred things and the performance of other duties AT THE HOUSE OF GOD. 1 Chronicles 23:28

 

All these men were under the supervision of their fathers for the music of THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD , with cymbals, lyres and harps, for the ministry at THE HOUSE OF GOD. Asaph, Jeduthun and Heman were under the supervision of the king. 1 Chronicles 25:6

 

"However, in the first year of Cyrus king of Babylon, King Cyrus issued a decree TO REBUILD THIS HOUSE OF GOD. He even removed from the temple of Babylon the gold and silver articles of THE HOUSE OF GOD, which Nebuchadnezzar had taken from THE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM and brought to the temple in Babylon. "Then King Cyrus gave them to a man named Sheshbazzar, whom he had appointed governor, and he told him, 'Take these articles and go and deposit them IN THE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM. AND REBUILD THE HOUSE OF GOD ON ITS SITE.' Ezra 5:13-15

 

Also, the gold and silver articles of THE HOUSE OF GOD, which Nebuchadnezzar took from the temple IN JERUSALEM and brought to Babylon, are to be returned to their places IN THE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM; they are to be deposited IN THE HOUSE OF GOD. Now then, Tattenai, governor of Trans-Euphrates, and Shethar-Bozenai and you, their fellow officials of that province, stay away from there. Do not interfere with the work ON THIS TEMPLE OF GOD. Let the governor of the Jews and the Jewish elders rebuild THIS HOUSE OF GOD on its site. Moreover, I hereby decree what you are to do for these elders of the Jews in the CONSTRUCTION OF THIS HOUSE OF GOD: Ezra 6:5-8

 

One day I went to the house of Shemaiah son of Delaiah, the son of Mehetabel, who was shut in at his home. He said, "Let us meet in THE HOUSE OF GOD, INSIDE THE TEMPLE, and let us close the temple doors, because men are coming to kill you-by night they are coming to kill you." Nehemiah 6:10

 

One thing I ask of the Lord , this is what I seek: that I may dwell in the THE HOUSE OF THE LORD all the days of my life, to gaze upon the beauty of the Lord and to SEEK HIM IN HIS TEMPLE. 27:4

 

Blessed are those you choose and bring near to live in your courts! We are filled with the good things OF YOUR HOUSE, OF YOUR HOLY TEMPLE. Psalm 65:4

 

Therefore, what I did to Shiloh I will now do to THE HOUSE that bears my Name, THE TEMPLE you trust in, the place I gave to you and your fathers. Jeremiah 7:14

 

This is what the Lord Almighty says: "You who now hear these words spoken by the prophets who were there when the foundation was laid for THE HOUSE OF THE LORD ALMIGHTY, let your hands be strong so that THE TEMPLE MAY BE BUILT. Zec 8:9

 

It is totally incredulous to believe that Isaiah 60 is talking about Muhammad and the Kaaba. We would be forced to conclude that:

 

1. The Kaaba was originally the Temple
2. That it was located in Jerusalem not Mecca, which would make this a false prophecy!
3. If the Kaaba was in Israel, THEN IT CAN'T BE IN ARABIA?

 

Osama again exposes his ignorance of his pagan Quran and by using this same fallacious method we would be forced to conclude that the Kaaba is not in Mecca but Jerusalem!!! The following commentary on S. 17:1 AND THE CONCEPT OF WHAT THE SACRED HOUSE IN THE QURAN IS comes from Tafsir Ibn Kathir-Abridged Volume 5, Surah Hud to Surat Al-Isra', Verse 38, abridged by a group of scholars under the supervision of Shaykh Safiur-Rahman Al-Mubarakpuri, (Darussalam Publishers & Distributors; Riyadh, Houston, New York, Lahore, July 2000):

 

means THE SACRED HOUSE which is IN JERUSALEM, the origin of the Prophets from the time of Ibraham Al-Khalil. The Prophets all gathered there, and he (Muhammad) led them in prayer in their own homeland. This indicates that he is the greatest leader of all, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him and upon them. (Ibid., p. 551; bold emphasis ours)

 

Ibn Kathir includes the following hadith:

 

I remember being in Al-Hijr, and the Quraysh were asking me about my Night Journey. They asked me things about Bayt Al-Maqdis that I was not sure of, and I felt more anxious and stressed then than I have ever felt. Then Allah raised up Bayt Al-Maqdis for me to see, and there was nothing they asked me about but I told them about it. And I remember being in a gathering of the Prophets. Musa was standing there praying, and he was a man with curly hair, as if he were one of the men of Shanu'ah. I saw 'Isa ibn Maryam standing there praying, and the one who most resembles him is 'Urwah bin Mas'ud Ath-Thaqafi. And I saw Ibrahim standing there praying, and for the one who most resembles him is your companion (meaning himself). Then the time for prayer came, and I led them in prayer. When I finished, a voice said, 'O Muhammad, this is Malik, the keeper of Hell,' so I turned to him, and he greeted me first. (Ibid., p. 571; bold emphasis ours)

 

The Sacred house is the temple mount in Jerusalem which Osama's Palestinian people are fighting over right now!! He doesn't even know his own Quran and Islamic history. He has totally embarrassed Islam by misplacing the Kaaba, Islam's holy shrine, from Arabia to Israel!!

 

LIE#9.  BELIEVES DEUTERONOMY 31 SAYS THE BIBLE IS CORRUPTED!

 

See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death.

The Book of Moses predicted that the Law (Bible) will get corrupted. The Book of Jeremiah which came approximately 826 years after did indeed confirm this corruption.

 

When we look at the content around this verse we will see just how desperate Osama is. He lies by trying to make the “elders” who were to become corrected, the actual text of the Bible!! Read:

 

So Moses wrote down this song that day and taught it to the Israelites. The LORD gave this command to Joshua son of Nun: "Be strong and courageous, for you will bring the Israelites into the land I promised them on oath, and I myself will be with you." AFTER MOSES FINISHED WRITING IN A BOOK THE WORDS OF THIS LAW FROM BEGINNING TO END, he gave this command to the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the LORD: "Take this Book of the Law and place it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God. THERE IT WILL REMAIN AS A WITNESS AGAINST YOU. For I know how rebellious and stiff-necked you are. If you have been rebellious against the LORD while I am still alive and with you, how much more will you rebel after I die! Assemble before me all the elders of your tribes and all your officials, so that I can speak these words in their hearing and call heaven and earth to testify against them. FOR I KNOW AFTER MY DEATH YOU ARE SURE TO BECOME UTTERLY CORRUPT and to turn from the way I have commanded you. In days to come, disaster will fall upon you because you will do evil in the sight of the LORD and provoke him to anger by what your hands have made."

 

Moses had already written the Law down and he was to going to use it as a witness against the evil elders!!! Notice again, in this passage, that after Moses death, it is the elders, not the law who will become corrupt. This is verified even more when we see how "disaster will befall them since they did evil in the sight of the LORD". How can a book perform actions as a human being? This is something that Osama also has yet to address. He has intentionally lied by equating the elders to the actual text of the law, when the passage says that the law would be a witness against the elders and was already within the safety of the ark! Osama intentionally lied!! What a shame, can't prove bible corruption so he must resort to bible misinterpretation. Notice that this slander is found on most of his web pages!!!

 

Hence, If Deuteronomy 31:25-29 proves bible corruption how come we find verses after this book, which came later, showing the legitimacy of the law? Read:

 

He teaches your precepts to Jacob and YOUR LAW TO ISRAEL. He offers incense before you and whole burnt offerings on your altar. Deut 33:10

 

Notice that in the next chapter after his claim of Bible corruption we see God mentioning about teaching this very same law to Israel!!

 

No one will be able to stand up against you all the days of your life. As I was with Moses, so I will be with you; I will never leave you nor forsake you. "Be strong and courageous, because you will lead these people to inherit the land I swore to their forefathers to give them. Be strong and very courageous. Be careful to obey all the law my servant Moses gave you; do not turn from it to the right or to the left, that you may be successful wherever you go. DO NOT LET THIS BOOK OF THE LAW DEPART FROM YOUR MOUTH; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do EVERYTHING WRITTEN IN IT. Then you will be prosperous and successful. (Joshua 1:5-8)

 

If the law was already corrupted in Deuteronomy why did Yahweh almighty explicitly tell Joshua that he must also obey the law which was written by him also? Simple, because the bible never was corrupted nor would it ever be corrupted.

 

as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded the Israelites. He built it according to WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK of the Law of Moses--an altar of uncut stones, on which no iron tool had been used. On it they offered to the LORD burnt offerings and sacrificed fellowship offerings. There, in the presence of the Israelites, JOSHUA COPIED ON STONES THE LAW OF MOSES, WHICH HE HAD WRITTEN. All Israel, aliens and citizens alike, with their elders, officials and judges, were standing on both sides of the ark of the covenant of the LORD, facing those who carried it--the priests, who were Levites. Half of the people stood in front of Mount Gerizim and half of them in front of Mount Ebal, as Moses the servant of the LORD had formerly commanded when he gave instructions to bless the people of Israel. Afterward, Joshua read all the words of the law--the blessings and the curses--JUST AS IT IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW. There was not a word of all that Moses had commanded that Joshua did not read to the whole assembly of Israel, including the women and children, and the aliens who lived among them. (Joshua 8:31-35)

 

But be very careful to keep the commandment and the law that Moses the servant of the LORD gave you: to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, to obey his commands, to hold fast to him and to serve him with all your heart and all your soul." (Joshua 22:5)

 

God almighty is continuously telling his people to obey his command in his law after Deuteronomy 31:25-29. We see that Osama's theory is again a bogus lie propagated by his lackluster reading skills.

 

"Be very strong; be careful to OBEY ALL THAT IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW of Moses, without turning aside to the right or to the left. (Joshua 23:6)

 

And Joshua recorded these things in the Book of the Law of God. Then he took a large stone and set it up there under the oak near the holy place of the LORD. "See!" he said to all the people. "This stone will be a witness against us. It has heard all the words the LORD has said to us. It will be a witness against you if you are untrue to your God." (Joshua 24:26-27)

 

The law was still uncorrupt long after the passage that Osama claimed and we see that it was taught over 1000 years later in Judah:

 

With them were certain Levites--Shemaiah, Nethaniah, Zebadiah, Asahel, Shemiramoth, Jehonathan, Adonijah, Tobijah and Tob-Adonijah--and the priests Elishama and Jehoram. They taught throughout Judah, TAKING WITH THEM THE BOOK OF THE LAW OF THE LORD; they went around to all the towns of Judah and taught the people. (2 Chron. 17:8-9)

 

With this ample evidence being shown lets expose Osama's misunderstanding clearer about his claim of Deut 31:25-29 showing corruption:

 

See Also Deuteronomy 31:25-29 where Moses peace be upon him predicted the corruption/tampering of the Law (Bible) after his death.

 

This verse particular is verse 29 which says:

 

For I know that after my death you are sure to become utterly corrupt and to turn from the way I have commanded you. In days to come, disaster will fall upon you because you will do evil in the sight of the LORD and provoke him to anger by what your hands have made."

 

However Osama violates his own word on his other web pages when he claims this about incomplete quoting:

 

This is bogus and unacceptable in the professional world of dialogues.

 

We wonder why he doesn't follow his own bogus word? Read verse 28 before verse 29:

 

ASSEMBLE BEFORE ME ALL THE ELDERS of your tribes and all your officials, so that I can speak these words IN THEIR HEARING and call heaven and earth to TESTIFY AGAINST THEM.

 

NOW READ VERSE 29

For I know that after my death YOU ARE SURE TO BECOME UTTERLY CORRUPT and to turn from the way I have commanded you. In days to come, disaster will fall upon you because you will do evil in the sight of the LORD and provoke him to anger by what your hands have made."

 

Verse 28 says Moses is testifying against the elders and then verse 29 says that they will become corrupt using the LAW as a witness against their corruption from the previous verses!!! Let’s look at these verses compared with Joshua 24:26-28, to bring this point home:

 

Both Joshua and Moses performed the same functions and used the law as a witness against unbelievers. The Law isn't corrupted nor did the Bible ever say that it would be corrupted. By not having hooked on phonics, Osama has presented nothing but a phony argument in his desperate attempts to prove Bible corruption.

 

LIE#10.  BELIEVES THE NIV BIBLE PROVES BIBLE CORRUPTION!

 

Osama Abdallah loves promoting this link:

 

(Just who were the real authors of the Bible? ; Found on www.answering-christianity.com)

 

He tries to use a mere English translation of the bible to validate his insane theories of bible corruption. Mr. Abdallah is highly educated and does have a degree in Computer engineering but one would never know this from the substance of his arguments or the quotation of scholarly material he uses.

 

My grandmother can read better than Mr. Abdallah and she passed away almost 5 years ago! The point of me saying this is simply the fact that Osama purposely quotes the NIV out of context to misrepresent this source. His theory that “authorship means authenticity” is easily recognized as flawed by any intelligent reader. For example:

 

A book could be false, EVEN IF THE AUTHOR IS NAMED.

 

Apparently despite all of his tricks and tactics, Mr. Abdallah has yet to figure this great mystery out. Many Christians aren’t concerned about who wrote particular books of the Bible. This is actually a red herring since to us; it is God who is the author of the bible. Mr. Abdallah tries to create this great controversy because he is hoping that Muslims will accept anything he claims at face value. Osama also fails to subject the Quran to this same test because he knows that it would also fail his criteria also. He may claim that “Allah inspired the Quran”, which is something no Christian or Muslim disputes but the simple problem facing him is “WHO ACTUALLY WROTE THE SURAH’S OF THE QURAN”? Since no particular chapter has any author given then we must conclude that the Quran is also corrupted according to Mr. Abdallah’s warped conspiracy theories.

 

Osama’s logic can be easily summed up here:

 

Because the NIV says something on the bible it therefore must be true.

 

The problem with this stance also is that Osama Abdallah doesn’t except this from the NIV bible:

 

As far as Zondervan is concerned as the publisher of the NIV, and International Bible Society as the copyright owner of the NIV, nothing could be further from the truth. For 188 years IBS, and for 66 years Zondervan, have faithfully communicated the richness of GOD'S REVELATION. (NIV ONLINE LETTER PREFACE TO NIV BIBLE)

 

According to the NIV translators, it is the Bible, NOT THE QURAN, which is the revelation of God to mankind. Does Osama Abdallah accept this? No. Basically he takes quotes and assumes that anything “which agrees with what he thinks” must be true and IS TRUE. According to logic this is nothing more than SOMEONE’S OPINION. In his debate with Sam Shamoun recently, Osama Abdallah even admitted that his stance was full of embarrassing contradictions. Hence, he believes the bible to be corrupted but yet uses this same bible to find Muhammad in it. Not only is this absolutely absurd, even to intelligent non-Christians, but the sheer stupidity of such a stance would easily lead to the conclusion that “Muhammad must be a corrupt prophet prophesied by a corrupt book”!

 

Not only does the NIV claim that the Bible is uncorrupted, (even if they did, they aren’t mainstream Christianity!) they even go as far as to say this:

 

The NIV is based on the most reliable Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts. A translation team of more than 100 evangelical Bible scholars from many different denominations, using four levels of committee review, worked for 13 years before the complete Bible was released in 1978. These scholars came from the United States, Canada, Great Britain, Australia, and New Zealand.

OPERATING FROM THE CONVICTION THAT THE BIBLE IS THE INSPIRED AND WHOLLY RELIABLE WORD OF GOD, the translators wanted to faithfully reproduce what the original Scripture writers wrote, in language that people could read and understand without difficulty. They were - and are - committed to the AUTHORITY AND INFALLIBILITY OF THE BIBLE. The NIV has become the bestselling translation of the Bible, with more than 100 million copies in print. (NIV ONLINE LETTER)

Wholly reliable word of God! You see this? Yes. Corrupted? No. If the NIV ever heard that Osama Abdallah was propagating this theory, based on their commentary, they would immediately reject this and probably attempt to sue him for slander of their material.

 

You will see below how he quoted the NIV and the full quotes, if applicable, as well as our comments.

 

What Osama Abdallah quoted	Full NIV Quote or other scholarly quotes.	Comments
"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark.  They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark.  His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost.  (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes, page 1528)"	Some of the most ancient authorities bring the book to a close at the end of verse 8. ONE AUTHORITY CONCLUDES THE BOOK WITH THE SHORTER ENDING; OTHERS INCLUDE THE SHORTER ENDING AND THEN CONTINUE WITH VERSES 9-20. IN MOST AUTHORITIES VERSES 9-20 FOLLOW IMMEDIATELY AFTER VERSE 8, though in some of these authorities the passage is marked as being doubtful. (Word Study Greek-English New Testament, Tyndale, Wheaton, Illinois, Paul R. McReynolds, 1999 ISBN 0-8423-8290-9)	History has shown that Mark has both a short as well as an unabridged ending. Most authorities have Mark 16:9-20. It is only "SOME" who mark it as doubtful. Most means more than Some. That is what the NIV said that the ending: PROBABLY ENDED at 16:8 They were aware that most MSS have this verse and it would be incorrect to claim that this verse was a later insertion! Osama's whole evidence was based on probable evidence. If he wanted to prove that Mark 16:9-20 was clearly a later addition, surely he could've furnished a NIV quote that explicitly says "THIS GOSPEL DEFINITELY ENDED AT VERSE 8 AND THE REST IS A LATER INSERTION".
"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1643)"	Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke. The earliest of the external testimonies appears in the Muratorian Canon (C. A.D. 170), where the explicit statement is made THAT LUKE WAS THE AUTHOR OF BOTH THE THIRD GOSPEL AND THE "ACTS OF ALL THE APOSTLES"... Within the writing itself are some clues as to who the author was: 1. LUKE THE COMPANION OF PAUL...LUKE THE PHYSICIAN. "(NIV Study Bible Commentary, pg. 1643)	According to the NIV, evidence outside the bible itself verifies that Luke is the author. Apparently the NIV doesn’t think it necessary for the author to name himself for every book.
"The writer of this letter does not identify himself, but he was obviously well known to the original recipients.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1856)"	Nobody really knows who wrote the letter to the Hebrews. But whoever did write the letter certainly understood the plight of those to whom it was written-for he was obviously well known to the original recipients. Although seperated from them at the time of writing, this writer knew them and looked forward to the day when they would be brought together again. Yet nowhere in the letter did he bother to give his name. WE WISH HE HAD! That would have saved thousands of hours for scholars and teachers and preachers who have for years attempted to solve this mystery. Some thing are worth intense study, and other things, although they may be interesting and thought-provoking, are not worth the time. AN IN-DEPTH INVESTIGATION OF THE AUTHORSHIP OF HEBREWS IS ONE OF THE THINGS NOT WORTH MORE OF OUR TIME. The most important thing to remember is that THIS BOOK HAS BEEN INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT AND PRESERVED AS PART OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES. NO MATTER WHO PENNED THE WORDS, GOD HAS GIVEN US THIS MESSAGE AND PROTECTED IT THROUGH THE CENTURIES. (NIV Insights Bible, Commentary on Hebrews pg. 1330)	According to the NIV, the authorship of Hebrews has no bearing on the authenticity of its message. It isn’t even worth the time or effort of the NIV society to look for the authorship.
"The letter is difficult to date with precision....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1905)"	"....Unlike most NT letters, 1 John does not tell us who its author is. The earliest identification of him comes from the church fathers...(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1904)"	Authorship ID comes from the 1st century church fathers. So much for anonymity
"It seems safe to conclude that the book, at least in its early form, dates from the beginning of the monarchy. Some think that Samuel may have had a hand in shaping or compiling the materials of the book, but in fact we are unsure who the final author or editor was.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 286)"	In the judgment of many scholars Joshua was not written until the end of the period of the kings, some 800 years after the actual events. But there are significant reasons to question this conclusion and to place the time of composition much earlier. THE EARLIEST JEWISH TRADITIONS (TALMUD) CLAIM THAT JOSHUA WROTE HIS OWN BOOK EXCEPT FOR THE FINAL SECTION ABOUT HIS FUNERAL, which is attributed to Eleazer son of Aaron...Morever, the author's observation are accurate and precise. He is thoroughly at ease with the antiquated names of cities, such as "the Jebusite city" for Jerusalem, Kiriath Arba for Hebron, and Greater Sidon for what later became simply Sidon. (NIV Study Bible, Commentary on Joshua, pg. 286)	Shouldn’t the Jews know more about their scriptures than Osama Abdallah or the NIV? Yes. Osama even uses the Talmud against the bible in certain arguments on his site.
"Although, according to tradition, Samuel wrote the book, authorship is actually uncertain.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)" "The date of the composition is also unknown, but it was undoubtedly during the monarchy.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"	Although, according to tradition, Samuel wrote the book, authorship is actually uncertain. It is possible that Samuel assembled some of the accounts FROM THE PERIOD OF THE JUDGES and that such prophets as Nathan and Gad, both of whom were associated with David's court, had a hand in shaping and editing the material. (NIV Study Bible, Commentary on Judges, pg. 322)	The NIV rejects FULL authorship of Samuel by Samuel because they believed that he only assembled SOME OF THE ACCOUNTS. They didn’t say that the book was corrupted or verified Islam!
"The author is unknown. Jewish tradition points to Samuel, but it is unlikely that he is the author because the mention of David (4:17,22) implies a later date.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 360)"	The book of Ruth is a Hebrew short story, told with CONSUMMATE SKILL. Among HISTORICAL NARRATIVES IN SCRIPTURE it is unexcelled in its compactness, vividness, warmth, beauty and dramatic effectiveness--- AN EXQUISITELY WROUGHT JEWEL OF HEBREW NARRATIVE ART (NIV Study Bible, Commentary on Ruth, pg. 361)	According to the NIV Study Bible, the supposed corrupted book of Ruth is a literary jewel as well as a historical narrative in scripture!!
"Who the author was cannot be known with certainty since the book itself gives no indication of his identity.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 368)"		So basically the author is unknown but NIV says nothing on if the material is wrong or corrupted.
"There is little conclusive evidence as to the identity of the author of 1,2 Kings.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)" "Whoever the author was, it is clear that he was familiar with the book of Deuteronomy.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"		So we don’t know the author according to the NIV but author was familiar with book of Deuteronomy. Says nothing about book being corrupted.
"According to ancient Jewish tradition, Ezra wrote Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah (see Introduction to Ezra: Literary Form and Authorship), but this cannot be established with certainty.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 569)"	GOD KNEW HE WAS NOT WHIPPING UP A BEST SELLER WHEN HE INSPIRED THE BOOKS OF CHRONICLES-- but he never intended to...EZRA WROTE FROM A SPECIFIC PERSPECTIVE AND VANTAGE POINT. He was looking back on the history of his people after their spiritual erosion, fall and captivity. When you write something from hindsight, you have a lot of insight, and that is what EZRA BROUGHT TO THE RECORD CONTAINED IN CHRONICLES (NIV Living Insights Bible, Commentary on Chronicles, pg. 402)   And it must be acknowledge that the author, if not Ezra himself, AT LEAST SHARED MANY BASIC CONCERNS WITH THAT REFORMING PRIEST. (NIV Study Bible, Commentary on Chronicles, pg. 571)	The NIV Study Bible argues that Ezra came from the time of Ezra, and if he didn’t write it then a close eyewitness wrote it.
"Although we do not know who wrote the book of Esther, from internal evidence it is possible to make some inferences about the author and the date of composition.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 707)"	The earliest reference to the land of Judah or to Jerusalem suggest that he was a resident of a Persian city. The earliest date for the book would be shortly after the events narrated, i.e., c. 460 B.C.,. INTERNAL EVIDENCE also suggest that the festival of Purim had been observed for some time prior to the writing of the book. (NIV Study Bible, Commentary on Esther, pg. 709)	In Persian history, a scribe, not Esther the Queen, would have written down this account. General Middle Eastern knowledge.
"The unknown author probably had access to oral and/or written sources....(From the NIV Bible commentary, page 722)"	The unknown author probably had access to oral and/or written sources from which, UNDER DIVINE INSPIRATION, he composed the book that we now have. Of course the subject matter of the prologue HAD TO BE DIVINELY REVEALED TO HIM, SINCE IT CONTAINED INFORMATION ONLY GOD COULD KNOW. (NIV Study Bible, Commentary on Job, pg. 722)	Osama forgot to say that the unknown author was under DIVINE inspiration. Blows his whole argument out of the water!
"Regarding authorship, opinions are even more divided....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 773)"		So Osama bases bible corruptions on opinions, even though he claims on his site that he only uses facts!

 

As you can clearly see, the NIV says just the opposite of what Osama Abdallah actually claims. It is simply amazing that any self-respecting apologist would embarrass himself or his credibility just to defend his religion on misquotes lies and outright propaganda. On our discussion board, one of Osama’s fellow Muslims told him not to insult the Bible (though not the best in language it does get the point across):

 

Written by Paul19 at 06 Jan 2002 11:00:22:

As an answer to: The stupid bible says the SUN HURRIES BACK TO WHERE IT RISES! written by Osama Abdallah at 06 Jan 2002 09:05:02:

Assalamu Alykum,
Bro Osama i shud remind u that prophet Muhammed pbuh had much respect to christians and jews and there book,he never said bad word at it,plus the bible contain much of the truth that we believe in as muslims,the bible say God is ONE ,and it has good teaching about jesus too,so when you insult it,it's like insulting our beliefs too,and more than that,who gonna listen to you when you insult his or her holy book? you think i will read an article by title that insult quran or call it stupid?...actually i wont and i will disrespect this who does it....i hope you got my view and may Allah Guide all of us,ameen

Paul19 - http://f24.parsimony.net/forum54389/messages/10782.htm

As you can see, Mr. Abdallah diatribes and lies have even concerned his fellow Muslims. In his haste to deface the Bible, Osama, as pointed out by his own fellow Muslim, insults Islam and Muhammad!

 

LIE#11.  BELIEVES THE BIRTH OF A FEMALE IS A LOSS!

 

OSAMA:

 

Birth of any female is a loss: Ecclesiasticus 22:3 "....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss" (From the New Jerusalem Bible. It's a Roman Catholics Bible).

 

RESPONSE:

 

Even though the Apocrypha doesn’t concern us, since God did not inspire these books, we will still offer a response. The first thing to note is the way different translations render the Greek:

 

"... thugater de ep’ elattosei ginetai."

 

Note the following translations:

 

... And a foolish daughter shall be to his loss. Douay Old Testament

 

... spoilt daughter to thy great loss; Knox Translation

 

... and a [foolish] daughter is born to his loss.

 

... if it be a daughter, she brings him to poverty. New American Bible

 

... and the birth of a daughter is a loss. NRSV

 

We now quote the context:

 

"It is a disgrace to be the father of an undisciplined son, and the birth of a daughter is a loss. A sensible daughter obtains her husband, but one who acts shamefully brings grief to her father. An impudent daughter disgraces father and husband, and will be despised by both. Like music in mourning is a tale told at the wrong time, but chastising and discipline are wisdom at all times." Ecclesiasticus 22:3-6 RSV

 

The context shows that the author is referring to children, whether sons or daughters, who bring shame to their family. As such, the author’s intention is not to generalize all women as evil, since he refers to daughters that are sensible, but only to those women who through their shameful ways bring disgrace to their parents and husbands.

 

Another plausible meaning of the first sentence is that daughters are a loss to their parents in that they end up leaving their parents when they get married in order to live with their spouses and build families for them.

 

In either case, Osama’s use of this particular passage is simply misplaced since it does not support him in the least.

 

OSAMA:

 

If a woman gives birth to a baby boy, then she becomes unclean for 7 days. But if she gives birth to a baby girl, then she becomes unclean for 14 days. So in other words, the birth of any female causes double the pollution: Leviticus 12:2-5 "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a MALE child: then she shall be unclean SEVEN DAYS; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying THIRTY THREE days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled. But if she bear a FEMALE child, then she shall be unclean TWO WEEKS, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying SIXTY SIX days."

 

I think it's safe to say that Ecclesiasticus 22:3 and Leviticus 12:2-5 are sister verses.

 

RESPONSE:

 

Muslims complain that the ritual purification of a woman who conceives a baby girl is twice as long as that of a baby boy. Admittedly, this is a difficult passage. Yet, the text itself provides one of the reasons why a mother would be declared unclean only for seven days in the case of male children:

 

"Say to the Israelites: ‘A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period. On the EIGHTH DAY the boy is to be circumcised.’" Leviticus 12:2-3

 

The length of uncleanness is interrupted by the command to circumcise the male boy on the eighth day. Being ceremonially unclean on the eighth day may have prohibited the mother from witnessing her own son’s circumcision.

 

The Zondervan NIV Bible Commentary provides another (possible) reason for the command in counterbalancing cultural influences:

 

"In many countries girls are less desired than boys. Thoughtless husbands might have taken better care of baby boys and their mothers; so a longer time at home might have been positive help for a mother with a baby girl. No difference is made in the temple ritual between the birth of a boy or a girl. The only difference is in the periods of uncleanness and seclusion." (Kenneth L. Barker & John R. Kohlenberger III, ed. Zondervan NIV Bible Commentary - Volume 1: Old Testament [Zondervan Publishing House; Grand Rapids, MI 1994], p. 139)

 

Furthermore, the context clearly shows that no implication of female inferiority can be inferred from the prolonged period of uncleanness:

 

"When the days of her purification for a son OR DAUGHTER are over, she is to bring to the priest at the entrance to the Tent of Meeting a year-old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a dove for a sin offering. He shall offer them before the LORD to make atonement for her, and then she will be ceremonially clean from her flow of blood. These are the regulations for the woman who gives birth to a boy OR A GIRL. If she cannot afford a lamb, she is to bring two doves or two young pigeons, one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for her, and she will be clean." Leviticus 12:6-8

 

Please observe that the sacrifices for male and female infants are identical, supporting the point that both the male and female infants, as well as all males and females in general, have equal value in the eyes of God. In fact, if one reads Leviticus in the overall context of the Pentateuch, this conclusion becomes inescapable:

 

"Then God said, ‘Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.’ So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and FEMALE he created THEM." Genesis 1:26-27

 

"When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God. He created them male AND FEMALE AND BLESSED THEM. And when THEY were created, he called THEM ‘man.’" Genesis 5:1-2

 

The female is just as much an image-bearer of God as the male. The New Testament reflects this very same point:

 

"In the Lord, however, woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God." 1 Corinthians 11:11-12

 

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one IN CHRIST JESUS." Galatians 3:28

 

Finally, the ceremonial laws regarding male and female infants are less difficult to accept than the following purification rite that Muhammad enjoined on Muslims:

 

"Ali narrated that the Messenger of Allah said: 'The urine of a baby boy should have water sprinkled upon it. The urine of a baby girl is to be washed off.' Says Qatadah, 'This refers to a male baby that has not yet begun to eat. If he already eats, then the garment is to be washed.'

 

"This hadith is related by Ahmad, Abu Dawud, at-Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah. In al-Fath, Ibn Hajar says its chain is sahih.

 

"Sprinkling is sufficient as long as the boy is still nursing. If he eats solid food, his urine must be washed from the clothes and body. There is no disagreement on this latter point. Perhaps the reason for this exemption to the male baby's urine is that people have a tendency to carry their male babies around, and it would have been difficult to clean the clothes after their frequent urinations." (Fiqh us-Sunnah Volume 1 Purification and Prayer [American Trust Publications, Indianapolis Indiana 1991], pp. 9-10)

 

The explanation above doesn't work since infant girls are also carried around. So why the difference? Perhaps Osama can answer. –( http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/women.htm ; Sam shamoun responding to http://www.answering-christianity.com/view_of_women.htm

 

LIE#12.  BELIEVES THAT DAVID BOWING TO SAMUEL IS THE SAME AS PEOPLE BOWING TO JESUS.

 

1 Samuel 24
7 With these words David rebuked his men and did not allow them to attack Saul. And Saul left the cave and went his way.
8 Then David went out of the cave and called out to Saul, "My lord the king!" When Saul looked behind him, David bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground.
9 He said to Saul, "Why do you listen when men say, 'David is bent on harming you'? http://www.answering-christianity.com/worship_jesus.htm

 

Mr. Abdallah runs upon a problem here; first let’s show you the verse where Jesus says to bow to him like you bow to God:

"The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, EVEN AS they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him." John 5:22-23

honor the Son, EVEN AS they honor the Father.

You honor God by praying to him and worshipping him as the creator. So when Jesus mentioned what he said above it explicitly means to do the same with him as you would with God. Now is Mr. Abdallah going to tell us that this isn't the case AND

THAT HE DOESN'T HONOR GOD BY NOT PRAYING TO HIM AS THE CREATOR? CHECKMATE!

Using his logic, this makes Saul our Creator too since Mr. Abdallah equated people prostrating to him, as people would prostrate to Jesus, who in turn mentioned that “he must be HONORED JUST LIKE THE FATHER”. David bowing to Saul isn’t the same as HONORING JESUS AS YOU WOULD HONOR GOD. Unless you've assume that Saul was God right Mr. Abdallah? We call this an equivocation fallacy.

LIE#13.  BELIEVES THE BIBLE SANCTIONS PEDOPHILIA BUT QUOTES THE TALMED!

 

1-  Young girls in the Bible and Talmud, as young as 3, being married off:

Numbers 31:17-18 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

In the Torah (In the Book of Numbers in the Bible), after the conquest of Midian and Moab, and the great venereal plague, Moses (peace be on him) ordered that all the women "who have known a man" be killed but that "all the young girls, who have not known a man by lying with him" be kept alive for the Israelites.

Since the only females left fit for marriage and wholesome relations were prepubescent virgins, a Jewish law concerning child marriage was enacted. That law is found in the Babylonian Talmud:

"Rabbi Joseph said, 'Come and hear. A maiden aged 3 years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition.'

Mishnah: A girl of the age of 3 years and a day may be betrothed, subject to her father's approval, by sexual intercourse.

Gemara: Our Rabbis taught: 'A girl of the age of 3 years may be betrothed by sexual intercourse.' "

 

NOTICE THIS KNUCKLE HEAD CLAIMS THAT HIS EVIDENCE COMES FROM THE BIBLE BUT LOOK WHAT HIS QUOTE SAYS:

 

Gemara: Our Rabbis taught: 'A girl of the age of 3 years may be betrothed by sexual intercourse.' "

 

Notice that his whole evidence is based on WHAT SOME RABBIS TAUGHT AND NOT ANY HISTORICAL CLAIM FROM THE BIBLE. But yet he calls others “liars’.

 

THE TALMUD ISN’T THE BIBLE. THE TALMUD IS NOTHING MORE THAN THE COMMENTARY OF JEWISH SAGES. NOTHING MORE.

 

Even Jesus Christ rejected such traditions:

 

Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR TRADITION? Matt. 15:3

 

You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men." And he said to them: "You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! Mark 7:8-9

 

The Talmud isn’t the command of God, IT IS THE TRADITONS OF UNINSPIRED MEN. It’s very funny for Mr. Abdallah to try and slander Christianity based on traditions NOT EVEN SANCTIONED BY GOD.

 

I CHALLENGE THE LIAR ABDALLAH TO SHOW US ONE BIBLE VERSE WHICH SAYS A GIRL MUST BE THREE YEARS OLD FOR INTERCOURSE

 

LIE#14.  BELIEVES THE GOSPEL OF JOHN IS CORRUPTED EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN’T READ HIS OWN SOURCE!

The gospel of John is very important to the deity of Christ. Osama attacked this gospel in particular to fool his audience into thinking that it is unreliable:

The Gospel of John:

"The author is the apostle John, 'the disciple whom Jesus loved' (13:23; 19:26; 20:2; 21:7, 20,24). He was prominent in the early church but is not mentioned by name in this Gospel--which would be natural if he wrote it, but hard to explain otherwise.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1588)"

They claimed that it was John who wrote the Gospel, but yet, his name was not signed on his Gospel! How is it possible for us to be absolutely sure that it was indeed John who wrote the so called "Gospel of John" when "his name is not mentioned in this Gospel" so we can then take it as a 100% True Error-free Word of GOD Almighty?

Osama seeks to undermine the NIV’s claim that the Apostle John wrote the fourth Gospel solely because John didn’t sign it! Do note what the NIV says regarding the omission of John’s name:

He was prominent in the early church but is not mentioned by name but hard to explain otherwise

The NIV says that IT IS NATURAL FOR JOHN TO NOT MENTION HIS NAME IF HE DID WRITE THE GOSPEL!! Again, note what the NIV says:

THIS GOSPEL WAS WRITTEN BY THE APOSTLE JOHN-one of the closest friends of Jesus during His life on earth. (NIV Living Insights bible, commentary on John, pg. 1113)

Osama also overlooked the very first sentence in his own quote which explicitly says:

The author is the apostle John

The evidence is as explicit as one can find verifying the authorship of the apostle John!! Osama's evidence of bible corruption is nothing more than the usual misquotation and intentional misrepresentation found among common Islamic propaganda against the bible. Both the NIV Study and Living Insights Bible mention the apostle John as the author of the beloved fourth gospel. We find it very unusual for Osama Abdallah to try and disprove the authenticity of the Bible for the sake of bringing people to Islam. The Quran and the Muslim traditions clearly affirm the purity and preservation of the Holy Bible.

Finally, note what the first Muslim biographer said regarding the authorship of the fourth Gospel:

"Among the things which have reached me about what Jesus the Son of Mary stated in the Gospel which he received from God for the followers of the Gospel, in applying a term to describe the apostle of God, is the following. It is extracted FROM WHAT JOHN THE APOSTLE SET DOWN FOR THEM WHEN HE WROTE THE GOSPEL FOR THEM FROM THE TESTAMENT OF JESUS SON OF MARY: 'He that hateth me hateth the Lord. And if I had not done in their presence works which none other before me did, they had not sin: but from now they are puffed up with pride and think that they will overcome me and also the Lord. But the word that is in the law must be fulfilled, 'They hated me without a cause' (i.e. without reason). But when the Comforter has come whom God will send to you from the Lord's presence, and the spirit of truth which will have gone forth from the Lord's presence he (shall bear) witness of me and ye also, because ye have been with me from the beginning. I have spoken unto you about this that ye should not be in doubt.

"The Munahhemana (God bless and preserve him!) in Syriac is Muhammad; in Greek he is the paraclete." (Ibn Ishaq, Life Of Muhammad, trans. Alfred Guillaume [Oxford University Press, Karachi], pp. 103-104; bold and capital emphasis ours)

The preceding Gospel citation is taken from John 15:23-16:1. Please notice that Ishaq doesn’t say that this particular Gospel is inauthentic or corrupt. Apparently, the first Muslims weren’t as sharp as Osama since they had no problem admitting that John authored the fourth Gospel, even though he never signed his name!

LIE#15.  BELIEVES THAT ISLAM CLAIM OF 360 JOINTS WAS TRUE. HOW HILARIOUS!

 

Islam's claim about the 360 joints in the human body was proven to be true!

 

"Aisha reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Every one of the children of Adam has been created with three hundred and sixty joints; so he who declares the Glory of Allah, praises Allah, declares Allah to be One, Glorifies Allah, and seeks forgiveness from Allah, and removes stone, or thorn, or bone from people's path, and enjoins what is good and forbids from evil, to the number of those three hundred and sixty-four, will walk that day having removed himself from Hell.  (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Zakat (Kitab Al-Zakat), Book 005, Number 2199)"

 

Narrated Buraydah ibn al-Hasib: "I heard the Apostle of Allah peace_be_upon_him) say: A human being has three hundred and sixty joints for each of which he must give alms. The people asked him: Who is capable of doing this? He replied: It may be mucus in the mosque which you bury, and something which you remove from the road; but if you do not find such, two rak'ahs in the forenoon will be sufficient for you.  (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, General Behavior (Kitab Al-Adab), Book 41, Number 5222)"

 

Beside from the beautiful teachings about Worshiping the One True Living GOD Almighty and removing obstacles from the paths of people, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him made a very important scientific claim, and that is: Our human bodies have 360 joints in them.

 

Prior to 1995 it was thought that there are 340 joints in the human body. In 1995 a scientific institute proved that the internal ear consists of 10 joints each. Thus 20 joints were added and the discovery was made that the human body consists of 360 joints. Please refer to any medical encyclopedia on this. - http://www.answering-christianity.com/360_joints.htm

 

Now let’s quote you some highlights from this article refuting such nonsense:

There is another small "number problem" in the first of the hadiths quoted by Abdallah:

 

"Aisha reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Every one of the children of Adam has been created with three hundred and SIXTY joints; so he who declares the Glory of Allah, praises Allah, declares Allah to be One, Glorifies Allah, and seeks forgiveness from Allah, and removes stone, or thorn, or bone from people's path, and enjoins what is good and forbids from evil, to the number of those three hundred and SIXTY-FOUR, will walk that day having removed himself from Hell.  (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Zakat (Kitab Al-Zakat), Book 005, Number 2199)"

 

Obviously, 360 is not equal to 364, so there is a contradiction even within this one hadith. When looking up this hadith in the Arabic original, we find that it says 360 both times, i.e. this is not a contradiction but merely a translation error. The only reason to mention this observation here is that it constitutes further evidence of Abdallah's shoddy research. He merely copied the quotation from either the notoriously unreliable online hadith database or some other source (see below) and neither checked his foundational text for logical consistency nor did he bother to compare it against the Arabic original before issuing claims about its miraculous nature. [Below we will discover that the translation of this hadith also contains another quite serious error that has major implications for Abdallah's claim.]

 

Before we conclude this section, let's take another look at Osama Abdallah's first paragraph following his quotations of the two narrations of Muhammad:

 

Beside from the beautiful teachings about Worshiping the One True Living GOD Almighty and removing obstacles from the paths of people, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him made a very important scientific claim, and that is: Our human bodies have 360 joints in them.

 

This statement is a perfect example of Abdallah's "fluff and bluff" rhetoric. Even if Muhammad's claim that the human body has 360 joints had been true, what exactly is so "very important" about it? Does O. Abdallah know of even one Muslim doctor in the history of 1,400 years of Islamic Medicine who on the basis of this "very important" information was able to find a cure for any illness of his patients? The very fact that we have not been able to find even one medical encyclopedia or textbook of human anatomy at a university library that mentions the number of joints is certainly a good indication of how unimportant and irrelevant this number is for doctors and scientists.

 

[ Update: After being pressured from many sides, Abdallah finally removed this article from his site on 27 May 2004. See the article, Osama Abdallah: Spreading Hoaxes for the Advancement of Islam?, for more on the story. The below article will remain on our site for two reasons: 1. historical documentation, 2. the claim is still part of the sayings of Muhammad, so that the refutation is still relevant.]- http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/360joints.htm

 

OSAMA REMOVED THIS LIE FROM HIS WEBSITE AFTER IT WAS PROVEN FALSE!

 

LIE#16.  LYING ABOUT EVIDENCE FOR ALLAH IN PRE-ISLAMIC ISLAM!

 

 

Written by Faisal at 19 Jan 2001 14:35:17:

Que, have a look here at Osama's article about Allah under this title "Most Recent Discoveries"

http://www.answering-christianity.com/allah.htm

He wrote…

Most Recent Discoveries:

Recently Father Pecerillo, a famous Franciscan Archiologist, found more than twenty churches in Madaba at the south of Jordan. From the Forth Century we found houses in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Palestine with this inscription in Arabic :"Bism Allah al Rahman al Rahim" which showed that Christians were the first to use this name, Allah for GOD Almighty, which proves that the name of GOD Almighty in the Noble Quran, "Allah" is the correct one. This also proves to us that the Bible is not all found. There are still missing pieces in it that disprove trinity.

And then have a look at this Arabic Catholic site: -
http://www.al-bushra.org/arbhrtg/arbxtn04.htm

Recently Father Pecerillo, a famous Franciscan Archiologist, found morethan twenty churches in Madaba at the south of Jordan. From the Forth Century we found houses in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Palestine with this inscriptionin Arabic :"Bism El-Lah al Rahman al Rahim" that showed that Christians were the first to use this name so as to indicate their beliefin the Holy Trinity, more than two hundred years before Islam.

Can you see it? Hint (about the Trinity)

What Osama and Ysihan have constantly failed to see is that Bism El-Lah al Rahman al Rahim is an Aramiac Basmallah:

Bism El-l:ah al Rahman l Rahim
In the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost

Father = Elah = Elooha /Elaha (Syric)
Son = Rahman = Rahmano (Syric)
Holy Spirit = Rahim = Rahemo (Syric)

And that’s what I have told Ysihan long time ago. It’s a Christian Basmallah long before Islam and it’s an Aramaic style Basmmallah that reflect the Christian belief; in the name of the FATHER, the SON and the HOLY SPIRIT.

What is interesting also about Osama is his “ugly” plagiarism…. and ….you know better the rest concerning the above!

Faisal --- http://f24.parsimony.net/forum54389/messages/2940.htm

 

This was verified by an Arabic Christian! He later changed his information but is still trying to claim that EL-LAH is Allah, even though history shows us that this isn’t he case:

 

Recently Father Pecerillo, a famous Franciscan Archiologist, found morethan twenty churches in Madaba at the south of Jordan. From the Forth Century we found houses in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Palestine with this inscriptionin Arabic :"Bism El-Lah al Rahman al Rahim" that showed that Christians were the first to use this name so as to indicate their beliefin the Holy Trinity, more than two hundred years before Islam. -http://www.al-bushra.org/arbhrtg/arbxtn04..htm

 

The word El-LAH isn't the word "ALLAH". Osama lied.

 

"Among the Northern Arabs of early times, particularly in the region of Safa, THE WORD EL 'GOD' was still very commonly used as a separate name of the Deity." The IL and ILAH formations came much later. This means that EL was used by Arabs at one time as the name of God. This would be verified in the Bible, where the father of the Arabs, IshmaEL, was given a name with the name of God, EL, in it. (Hastings, James, Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, Vol 1, p. 664).

 

Jesus spoke Aramaic not Arabic.

Osama- We all know that weed-head.  But "Elaw" does mean "God" in Aramaic, which is the same as "Allah" in Arabic.  "Allah" is like "Elaw" and "Yahweh".  They are all Attributes of GOD Almighty.  Again, do you know what "Attribute" means?

 

Que-Allah doesn't not mean "GOD" in Arabic:

 

<It is “ALLAH,” not “God!” Yet, it is never a name for a god!…>

 

There is no god to be worshipped, there is only ALLAH! This statement also reveals that: "ALLAH is not a GOD…” Nobody can comprehend what the “Religion of Islam” is about and why it has ever come, unless one fully understood the difference in meaning between a concept of “god” and the name “ALLAH” signified. Due to this, one can keep misinterpreting the matter of religion (Islam)!… I have tried to make it clear that any idea that the word “god” implies is completely different in meaning than the name “ALLAH” implies. These are two different words with completely different meanings...

 

<The word “god” is a common adjective, yet “ALLAH” is a proper noun for a unique essence… >

 

The original Religion of Islam” in effect is fully based on the meaning implied by the name “ALLAH.” (Hulusi, Ahmad; Muhammad's Allah: "ALLAH" is not a GOD)

 

And,

 

The word ALLAH has never been applied to any other than ALLAH, neither in proper form nor in common. Take the names such as “ilah” and “huda,” for example; none of them is a proper name as “Allah.” They imply a concept of “god” or “lord.” It has been said “gods” as the plural form of “god,” “lords” as for “lord,” etc. Unlike, it has never been said “Allahs” and can never be so…

 

<So, the common name GOD IS NOT SYNONYMOUS FOR THE PROPER NOUN “ALLAH,” and is not an equivalent for “Allah.” “GOD” IS A VERY COMMON NAME!>

 

Therefore one SHOULD NEVER TRANSLATE THE NAME “ALLAH” AS “GOD.”(Yazir, Hamdi of Elmali; Koran Interpretation, [Religious Affairs Directory, Vol.1, p.24-25])

 

It is wrong and false to claim that Allah is a synonym for God, when the word in Arabic is "ILAH" which correctly derives from the root word "alaha" to deify. what is the root word for Allah? There is none in Arabic. That is why Quranic scholar Pickthall said this:

 

I have retained the word Allah throughout, because THERE IS NO CORRESPONDING WORD IN ENGLISH. The word Allah (the stress is on the last syllable) has neither feminine nor plural, and has never been applied to anything other than the unimaginable Supreme Being. I use the word "God" ONLY WHERE THE CORRESPONDING WORD ILAH IS FOUND IN THE ARABIC. (Pickthall, Mohammad M., The Glorious Quran, pg. 1; Translator's Note, Library of Islam; KAZI Pub. Inc, 10th Revision, 1994; ISDN 1-56744-044-4)

 

If there is no corresponding word for Allah, then "God" can't be used as a conclusion to try to link it to El. It is clear that the word "ILAH" is used as the term only for God in Arabic while Allah is the name of this ILAH. To say that God is the same as saying Allah is totally wrong and misleading.

 

LIE#17.  CLAIMS ISAIAH 9:6 REFERS TO HEZEKIAH, BUT WAIT HE CONTRADICTS THIS SAYING IT REFERS TO JESUS ELSEWHERE!

 

From www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm:

1- Ezekiel means "Strong God".  It also means "Yahweh is Strong God".
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3- Gabriel also means "Strong God".

4- Isaiah or Jesaiah means "Salvation from Yahweh".  It could also mean "Salvation".

5- Joshua means "Yahweh Saves".

6- Elli, which is a common name for men before and after Jesus, means "God".   Psalm 82:6  "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' "  "gods" here in Hebrew is "Elohim", which is plural of "EL".  It is the same exact thing as "EL" used for Jesus in Isaiah 9:6, since "gods" is a combination of several "EL"s.  And as clearly shown here, for someone to be called "god" or "God" in the Bible it wouldn't make him GOD Almighty Himself, the LORD or Jehovah.  I also want to point out that ANY "Son of GOD" in the Bible is a "god" or "God" as clearly shown in Psalm 82:6.

Note:  The trinitarian liars who translate the Bible into English play dirty tricks about capitalizing and lowering the "g" in "God" to prove their trinity lie, while they fully know that it is the same word used for ALL!

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Second, Osama candidly admits that Isaiah 9:6 does refer to the Lord Jesus Christ, whereas in other articles he actually denies that it does. In the following article Osama tries to prove that Isaiah 9 actually refers to Hezekiah:

... In the verse under study, the prophet expounds his message by formulating a prophetic name for Hezekiah. The words of this name form a sentence expressive of God's greatness, which will become manifest in the benefits to be bestowed upon the future king in his lifetime. Thus, the name, though borne by the king, serves, in reality, as a testimonial to God.

Hezekiah is called "a wonderful counselor" because this name is a sign, which foretells God's design for him ...

Hezekiah is called "the mighty God" because this name is a sign that foretells God's defense of Jerusalem through the miraculous sudden mass death of Sennacherib's army ...

The fact remains that Jesus did not literally or figuratively fulfill any of Isaiah's words. A wonderful counselor does not advise his followers that if they have faith they can be agents of destruction (Matthew 21:19-21; Mark 11:14, 20-23). A mighty God does not take orders from anyone (Luke2:51, Hebrews 5:8), for no one is greater than he is (Matthew 12:31-32; John 5:30, 14:28). Moreover, he does not ask or need to be saved by anyone (Matthew 26:39, Luke 22:42), for he cannot die by any means (Matthew 27:50, Mark 15:37, Luke 23:46, John 19:30). He who is called the Son of God the Father (John 1:18, 3:16) cannot himself be called everlasting Father. One cannot play simultaneously the role of the son and the Father; it is an obvious self-contradiction. He who advocates family strife (Matthew 10:34-35, Luke 12:49-53) and killing enemies (Luke 19:27) cannot be called a ruler of peace. (Source)

Thus, Osama seems to be changing his position from one paper to another, a clear indication of just how confused he is about what the Holy Bible actually teaches.  –( http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/jeremiah23.htm) 

---So what is it Osama? First you lie and claim that “Hezekiah is mentioned in Isaiah 9:6” elsewhere you claim that “it is Jesus who is mentioned”! As you can see, Osama Abdallah doesn’t argue with any sort of honesty and integrity. When confronted with this reality, note his response:

 

OSAMA ON HEZEKIAH

 

Osama tries to defend against my charge that he keeps changing his views from one paper to the next:

 

I am not changing positions.  My points were taken from www.jewsforjudaism.org, and I only proved that Isaiah 9:6 does not in anyway refer to GOD Almighty since the Jews themselves have strong evidence that Isaiah 9:6 points to one of their kings.  I was in other words exposing the doubts in the Bible and disproving the polytheist trinity paganism lie.

 

RESPONSE:

 

Osama says he didn’t change positions, even though in one instance he says that Isaiah 9:6 doesn’t refer to Jesus, while elsewhere he says it does refer to Christ. So saying that Isaiah 9:6 refers to Hezekiah in one paper, and then saying that it refers to Jesus in another paper, is not changing one’s position!? I guess Osama has a different definition of ‘changing positions’.-( http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/jeremiah23_r.htm)      

 

--To say one thing first and then change it while not acknowledging that your previous position was either incorrect or not totally correct IS CALLED A LIE.

 

LIE#18.  IS HEAVEN REALLY IN THE MIDDLE EAST? OSAMA SAYS SO!

 

From - http://www.answering-christianity.com/heaven.htm

 

Christians believe that in heaven we will not have our earthly bodies.  We will be spirits without bodies living peacefully in heaven.  They base their claim mostly on the following verse:  "Jesus replied, 'You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.  At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.'  (Matthew 22:29-30)"   Christians took the verse from Jesus peace be upon him so literal when he said that we will be like angels (spirits) in heaven, and based their entire theory that in heaven we will not have bodies upon it.

 

 

Christians don’t believe any such thing; we believe that in heaven we will have a glorified earthly body!!! I wonder where in the world Osama came up with this interpretation of this.  In Matthew 22:29 we don’t see any mention of not having an earthly body, we just see Jesus saying that we won’t have to marry.  Do you see body here? I sure don’t.

 

 

Muslims believe that GOD Almighty at the Day of Resurrection will recreate our bodies to have the same exact size and age as Adam's body when he was created which is 70 arms in length and 20 arms in width.  Muslims believe that heaven will contain beautiful materials that we feel and touch in earth today such as food, drink, relationships, joy, etc.... but on a much larger scale and in a much more beautifully designed fashion.

 

 

Osama’s “bodiless theory” is one of the biggest lies in the world. Even in the Bible angels are beings who have Bodies!!! The bible never describes angels as being bodiless. Just look at the story of Lazarus and the rich man. Both died but one went to heaven and another one went to hell. The rich man in hell had a physical body and cried out for Lazarus to put a drop of water on his tongue. How can he say this when he is bodiless? Also how can Lazarus put water on his tongue if he didn't have a body in heaven? We’ll leave that for Bible neophyte Osama to answer.

 

 

Also the Quran mentions no such thing of Adam being created 70 arms in length, note my dear reader, this comes from the Hadith. Keep this in mind because in future articles we will use this example.

 

 

The Old Testament contradicts the Christian theologians!

 

In the old Testament in the book of Genesis, we read about the famous story of Adam being the first human being created in heaven.  Then GOD Almighty created Eve from his rib.  Then later we read about Eve deceiving Adam and tempting him to eat the apple that GOD Almighty had forbidden him to eat it, and because of it GOD Almighty sent Adam and all mankind after him to earth to suffer.

 

 

This is also a lie because the Bible says that the rivers that watered the grade of Eden were the Euphrates, the Pishon, the Gihon and the Tigris. These rivers are in the Middle East!!! How can Osama explain the Bible to us when he doesn't even read this?  Who in their right mind would think that these rivers were in heaven!!! Is Africa and Mesopotamia in heaven? Osama sure thinks so.

 

 

1- GOD created a husband and a wife in heaven.  This contradicts the New Testament above when it claimed that we will only be spirits that don't marry in heaven.

 

 

God made Adam and Eve in the earthly Eden!! Even the Quran and Muhammad know about this.  I wonder in the Bible did it ever say that Eden was planted in heaven. No!!! Take note dear reader, if Osama mixes us the general baby basics of Christianity how can his site be called answering Christianity when he doesn’t even know where the Garden of Eden was located at? On his website he still presents this as proof against Christianity so we will continue to expose him for all to see.

 

 

2- GOD created a body for Adam in heaven, he had a head, a mouth, a neck, a stomach to feed himself the forbidden apple and digested it in his stomach/body.  This also contradicts that we will only be spirits with no bodies in heaven as the New Testament claims.

 

 

The bible never said that Adam was created in Heaven. Explain to us why the Earthly Rivers are watering Heaven Osama? Do we see these rivers going up through the atmosphere? Osama sure thinks so.

 

 

3- Adam peace be upon him did feel hungry enough to get tempted to eat the forbidden apple.  This proves that our earthly feelings and desires such as hunger, sexual desires, love, emotions, etc... will exist in heaven as well.

 

 

This was in the tree of life in the middle of the earthly Eden!!! This utterly amazing because even the Quran says that Adam was in the Garden and not on earth read:

 

 

2.35 And We said: "O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as (where and when) ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression."

 

 

20.121 In the result, they both ate of the tree, and so their nakedness appeared to them: they began to sew together, for their covering, leaves from the Garden: thus did Adam disobey his Lord, and fell into error.

 

 

One must wonder seriously on why the Quran never mentions that Adam was in heaven. Osama seems to confuse the earthly garden of Eden to the Gardens offered after death!!!

 

 

The Noble Quran talks in great details about how Paradise will have rivers from honey and milk, how much beautiful nature we will have and how we will have beautiful angels serving us in heaven.

 

 

The Noble Quran and the Old Testament seem to agree fully that (1) Heaven has materialistic things that we can feel and live with in it; and (2) We do get married in heaven and practice our sexual desires (although that's not the main point because the Noble Quran only talked very briefly about it) when we desire it.

 

 

They don't agree at all because in Genesis of the O.T. we see that the garden was planted in the Middle East and not in heaven. So the Quran is based upon error. This is very embarrassing.

 

 

I as a Muslim who loves and respects our beloved Messenger of GOD, Jesus peace be upon him think that the Bible is full of corruptions and fake sayings about Jesus.  I don't believe that Jesus contradicted himself by saying that.  I personally think that if indeed Jesus said that quote in Matthew 22:29-30 above, then he only meant that women are not given in marriage without seeing their husbands as the Jews used to do back then with their pre-arranged marriage culture.  Also, Jesus probably meant to say that women in heaven will not be forced into any marriage without their will.  But according to the truth, we will live in paradise in earthly bodies.   We won't have our current bodies according to Islam.  We will have bodies that look similar to Adam's which is 70 arms in height and 20 arms in width. 

 

 

Jesus didn't contradict himself, he actually read the scriptures, and Osama just went and pasted something without exploring it. Notice how Osama said JESUS PROBABLY MEANT TO SAY…, since when is an opinion the final standard used to prove the bible was wrong. This is very funny Osama because we Christians laugh at you for not even knowing that the Garden of Eden was on Earth. No Muslim nor Jew, or Christian will ever agree with this assessment.

 

 

We also can not take everything in the Bible so literal because it will mislead us.  In the case of Matthew 22:29-30 above it is quite obvious that we must not take the saying of Jesus so literal because it is contradicting the way GOD Almighty defined heaven from the very beginning when He created it in the Bible and in the Noble Quran.

 

 

No, we must follow the illiterate prophet and take the illiterate approach out. It seems like Osama did this perfectly since he didn't read about Eden being water by earthly rivers in the middle east!!!

 

 

Genesis 2:7 the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

8 Now the LORD God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed.

9 And the LORD God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground--trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

10 A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters.

11 The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold.

12 (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin [8] and onyx are also there.)

13 The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush. 

14 The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Asshur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.

15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.

16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden;

 

 

Cush for example, was in Ethopia not Heaven, what more can we expect from a man who follows a prophet that says that the sun sets in the ocean!!!

 

LIE#19.  PAUL CONTRADICTED JESUS AND WAS A FALSE APOSTLE?!

 

On his most recent post as of 11/18/04, Osama Abdallah appeals to MENJ of the website Bismikaallahuma.org to try and disprove the beloved Apostle Paul.

 

11/18/2004- I added several links from brother MENJ's web site about Paul, a self-claimed Prophet, that exposed his contradictions of Jesus' teachings and mocking of Moses' Law to the section Detailed History of Bible's Corruption, and list of textual Contradictions in the Bible.

 

 

 However, Mr. Abdallah seems to be ignorant of the fact that Menj’s polemics were already refuted. Look here:

PAUL, the self-appointed Prophet, was proven to be a deceiver who contradicted the teachings of Jesus and mocked the Law of Moses.

Paul of Tarsus: The Clear-Cut Hypocrite

The Problem of Paul Regarding Esau

The Problem of Paul

Paul of Tarsus: The False Apostle According to Islam

'The Apocryphal Books of Elijah' & Paul

Epimenides Paradox: Was Paul "Inspired"?

Paul's Dependency on Talmudic Writings: Evidence of New Testament Borrowing

Paul and The 'Inspiration' of Scripture

The Influence of the Pauline Epistles Upon The Gospels of The New Testament: Study and Criticism

 

REFUTED HERE:

 

• Paul of Tarsus: The False Apostle According to Islam and The Status of Paul in early Islam
• Response to the charge that the Apostle Paul used apocryphal material:
• Part 1: Did Paul use 'The Apocryphal Books of Elijah'?
• Part 2: Examples of Muhammad's Plagiarism and Use of Apocryphal Sources
• Response to the claim that the Apostle Paul was dependent on the Talmud:
• Part 1: Paul's Dependency on Talmudic Writings: A Refutation of the Muslim Claim
• Part 2: Sources and their Implications on the Inspiration of the Bible and the Quran
• Response to the attack on Sam Shamoun and another vilification of the Apostle Paul:
• Part 1: Revisiting the Issue of Islam and the Nursing of Adults
• Further documentation: Reda'a: Opinions of Muslim Scholars On the Issue of Breast-Feeding
• Part 2: Paul and Homosexuality
• Paul of Tarsus: The Clear-Cut Hypocrite? The Apostle Paul Defended and Muhammad Exposed  (http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Menj/index.htm)   

And,

 

http://www.answer-islam.org/Paul.html

 

It seems like Mr. Abdallah continues to propagate lies against Christianity even though he knows that Menj’s material was soundly refuted. These articles left Menj speechless! As time passes along this page will significantly grow in the future to cover all the lies of Osama Abdallah. He is quick to attack Craig Winn but he should examine himself first.

 

Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, FOR HE IS A LIAR AND THE FATHER OF IT. John 8:43-44

 

We see that Osama is following in the footsteps of his father, Satan. He is a liar and the father of it. God Bless. Now we will conclude in Osama’s own words he used against Mr. Winn. Minor changes to his commentary are in italics.

2-  Conclusion:

As we clearly saw above, Osama Abdallah, the liar, deliberately misquoted the Bible and all other sources that he presented to serve his evil intentions and that is to disprove Christianity by all cost, even if it means to fabricate lies.  You can clearly see the intentions in purposely misquoting Books.

We also saw how his references to the quotes he gave all fell too short.  He obviously didn't read these quotes from any of the Books he used in his articles.   He apparently copied them from another liar like him.

How can you trust anything he says and any quote he presents, especially from the sources that are considered "unauthenticated" and "doubtful" and are not available to many people such as the Talmud and the apocryphal?

 

Knowing the above lies about him:

How can we trust that this liar, Osama Abdallah, to even correctly quote material that exists in these books??

 

 

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