Islam, Steve Waldman,
and the Fog of Ignorance
by Silas
Currently there are many conflicting statements on Muhammad and Islam in the public
forum. Muslims in America tell us that "Islam is a religion of peace," while
Muslims in Islamic countries chant "Death to America the Great Satan", and hope
for more terrorist actions. The Muslim murderers of 9/11/01, and of many other terrorist
events since, are praised by the same Muslims. Further various Muslim groups around the
world are promising more murdering of Americans yet to come. If you follow the news
youll know that Muslims have recently murdered a Christian nurse in Lebanon and
murdered a diplomat in Jordan. In Indonesia and Pakistan Christians are still being
attacked because of their faith.
The Islam in Islamic countries is not the Islam of some whitewashed Muslims living in
the West. Either Islam is a religion of violence, or it is not. Both sides cannot be
right.
If you want to understand real Islam youre going to have to do some reading,
studying, and independent thinking. Youll need to read the Islamic texts of the
Quran, Hadith, and Sira. Study Muhammads teachings and actions, and study the
subsequent history of his closest followers those that acted in strict obedience
to his commands. Thereafter youll be able to draw your conclusions.
Otherwise youll be left in the fog of ignorance and be unable see if Islam does
indeed have a violent component.
Recently Steve Waldman, of Beliefnet wrote a satirical "defense", of Pat
Robertson, found here:
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/113/story_11347_1.html
Waldman attacked Pat Robertson, and his critical comments of Muhammad and Islam, by
pointing out violent verses in the Bible. Waldmans attack on Robertson is meant to
make a point: the Old Testament is filled with violence, and Christians who criticize
Islam overlook the violence in the Old Testament.
When Waldman finally got around to commenting on whether or not Islam was violent, he
stated (in the middle of the second page):
"I am not saying Islam is a "religion of peace." That actually
seems as unprovable as saying it is a religion of violence. What matters fundamentally is how
the religion is practiced now. Modern Christians and Jews have proven capable of rising above
the violence of the Bible and so have many modern Muslims. That doesn't mean they
necessarily will in all cases, but if they choose a path of violence it is not because it
is embedded in the Qur'an but rather because they, as individuals, are twisted."
Steve Waldman is one of the owners of the Beliefnet website. It is a well done site
that is viewed by many. Waldman is a successful and experienced journalist. I spent some
time reading his various articles and he struck me like a journalist Jimmy Carter. Hence
his site is fairly benign. Thats fine and good for the most part.
People in America want to assume the best about others and appear to be non-judgmental.
However, the fear of being labeled a hater, or racist, or bigot, etc. hinders people from
examining issues thoroughly. When it comes to bashing Falwell or Robertson, Waldman has
no hesitation, but, when it comes to examining the possibility that Islam is a violent
religion, Steve fears to go there. The outcome would not fit his pre-conceived ideas, and
could go against his politically correct grain. Waldman puts his rosy-colored glasses on,
buries his intellect, and makes the statement,
"I am not saying Islam is a "religion of peace."
That actually seems as unprovable as saying it is a religion of violence."
"Unprovable"? Excuse me? Were not talking about semi-conductor physics
here, or the existence of quarks, or about the existence of Atlantis. We are talking about
a religion that has a documented history and a collection of theological books that detail
the aspects of its faith. One aspect is violence. Dealing with Islam is not like dealing
with black magic or esoteric science. It aint that difficult to understand.
Get a hold of the Islamic books and study them.
The futures stakes are high. With respect to real Islam, Waldman owes his readers
more. When it comes to examining Islam, Waldman is not troubled by research, study, and
thinking things through. Thats okay for some topics, but with the spectre of Islamic
terrorism and massive casualties within our own land, Waldman should try to do a bit more
in assessing real Islam. It isnt good enough for Waldman to hide behind the
journalists veil, shrug his shoulders, and say,
"I am not saying Islam is a "religion of peace."
That actually seems as unprovable as saying it is a religion of violence."
The people of New York deserve better.
Take a look at Waldmans confusion in the fog of ignorance. He says,
"I am not saying Islam is a "religion of peace."
That actually seems as unprovable as saying it is a religion of violence."
but then he goes on to say,
"[ If Muslims] choose a path of violence it is not because it
is embedded in the Qur'an but rather because they, as individuals, are twisted."
If Steve doesnt know if Islam is a religion of peace or violence, how is he able
to judge the violent Muslims as "twisted"? According to Steves thinking,
isnt it possible that the non-violent Muslims are "twisted"? If Waldman
cant judge if Islam is violent or peaceful, how can he judge if violent Muslims are
twisted, or doing / not doing what is commanded in the Quran and Hadith?
Its interesting that on Waldmans site is a quote from one of the Muslim
writers. Alex Kronemer wrote:
"By today's standards, Muhammad engaged in an appalling amount
of violence ..."
but Waldman is even unable to admit that there was "an appalling amount of
violence" committed by Muhammad. Steve is afraid to go there because of his political
correctness. Hence his intellectual resignation.
Of course violence is imbedded in the Quran! It is more fully developed in the Hadith.
Read Muhammads Hadith, youll find numerous exhortations to "jihad",
and many of these are related to aggressive wars of conquest, not self-defense. When
Muhammad told his followers, that in the future they would be fighting in "holy
war" he was not talking about some "internal jihad", (ref. Sahih Bukhari
4:792). When Muhammad told his followers that they would attack and conquer other countries
(ref. Sahih Muslim No. 3200), he was not talking about battling against the internal
lusts of the flesh.
Im just hoping that sincere guys like Waldman could at least meet the American
public half-way and admit that there is a violent component in Islam.
Below is a short recording of one of Muhammads offensive actions. It details his
threatened attack and subsequent extortion of a small Christian town. Muhammad had no
intention of living peacefully, side by side with non-Muslims, even with those who were
far from his communitys borders. Non-Muslims were his enemies because they rejected
him. As recorded in the Quran, non-Muslims had these options: become Muslim, pay extortion
tax, or fight and die.
An account of Muhammads attack on the town of Ayla is given in
http://www.answering-islam.org/Books/Muir/Life4/chap28.htm.
The account describes that Muhammad heard a rumor that the Romans were going to attack
him. He marshaled 30,000 of his troops and they went north to the town of Tabuk to do
battle with the Romans. However, upon arriving, they found that there was no threat at
all. Since there was no one to fight, Muhammad sent a detachment to Ayla, to give them
three options, convert, pay the extortion tax "jizya", or die. The
Christian leader there decided to pay tribute.
Ive extracted this excerpt from the webpage above.
"To John ibn Rabah and the Chiefs of Aylah. Peace be on you! I praise God for
you, beside whom there is no Lord. I will not fight against you until I have written
thus unto you. Believe, or else pay tribute. And be obedient unto the Lord and his
Prophet, and the messengers of his Prophet. Honor them and clothe them with excellent
vestments, not with inferior raiment. Specially clothe Zeid with excellent garments. As
long as my messengers are pleased, so likewise am I. Ye know the tribute. If ye desire to
have security by sea and by land, obey the Lord and his Apostle, and he will defend you
from every claim, whether by Arab or foreigner, saving the claim of the Lord and his
Apostle. But if ye oppose and displease them, I will not accept from you a single
thing, until I have fought against you and taken captive your little ones and slain the
elder."
Dont Muhammads orders to John sound exactly like a crime bosss orders
to a subjected businessman? "Do what me and my henchmen tell you", "Give us
your finest merchandise", "Give my son the best you got", "Pay me the
money and youll be safe", "Get me upset and youll be sorry".
Frankly, Muhammads words to John read like a script from "The Godfather".
Now then, take a look at the verse below from Chapter 9, verse 29 of the Quran:
9:29 "Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as
believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle
(Muhammad) have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay
tribute out of hand, and they be humbled."
Do you see how Muhammad carried out his actions? Do you see how the Quran means for
Islam to be practiced? Muhammads actions speak loudly here. Committed near the end
of his life, they clearly portray what he wanted his followers to continue to do:
attack and conquer non-Muslim people.
Jesus taught,
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly
they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes
from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a
bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear
good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Matthew 7:15-20.
The "appalling amount of violence committed by Muhammad," is indeed
repugnant, having been committed by someone who claimed to be a great example for mankind.
There are many, many, many, more men and women who certainly are greater examples for
humanity to follow. Muhammads fruit was bad fruit.
As Muhammad grew in power more blood flowed and assaults against non-Muslims
increased. Muhammads Islam was never a religion of peace, and it is certainly not a
pathway to God.
It is certainly possible to define Islam as being violent, or non-violent. Non-Muslims
are at risk and hiding in the fog of ignorance is not the way to approach a potentially
lethal religion. Neville Chamberlin refused to see Hitler and Nazism for what they were,
and a great destruction broke out upon the earth. We must examine real Islam and determine
if it is violent.