Yamin Zakaria on Gender Equality

[Ali Sina]

Mr. Zakaria wrote this article and he sent it to various Islamic sites (including mine) for publication. Please read it to peer into the twisted mind of a Muslim fanatic

It is funny that some Muslim women insist that in Islam there is gender equality. Mr. Yamin Zakaria makes it clear that this is not true.

However, to justify the superiority of man over woman he uses a very circular reasoning.

He says men are superior because they could dominate women throughout the history.
Because of that women have had less opportunity to excel (he does not mention this part)
So because it is established that men are superior to women, men must dominate women and take away their rights.

You can use this circular reasoning for everything. The same "logic" was used to justify racism.

"Blacks are not as smart as white because they are slaves and the whites are masters."

The stupidity of this reasoning is self evident. It is like tying the hands of a person and then saying "look, he is incapable of using his hands".

What a sick mind!

[jumbalia]

This article illogically confuses "gender equality" with "gender sameness"

Genders are equal in rights.
Genders are not identical.
This is not a logical or moral problem.

My coworker can not do my job, and I can not do his. But we are paid the same and are equal inthe eyes of our boss.

For example, I am much stronger than my wife and I am more inclined to do certain jobs. I cut the grass, pick up the dog poop, scrape and paint the house and repaint it, help my friend move their heavy refrigerator etc. When we needed a 20 foot ditch dug in our backyard, I swung my shovel and pick-ax in the hot sun all afternoon. I wouldn't ask her to do this. My wife does our finances and laundry. (In case you wondering we both work and I bring in about 55% of the pay. And I do the dishes and pick up the house )

But we are equal. she has equal standing in our house. She IS half of our mutual home. We must both agree on big decisions.

Man and women are equal. They are not the same. This is how God made us.

Men and Women approach life from different angles. Men and women compliment each other. The sum of their parts is greater than the parts alone.

[fern]

When U had the time to prove yourself , U ran like a mouse . Now get over it dude . U lost .

[gupsfu]

Now there is no doubt that this particular Muslim is indeed braindead. Why would anyone write such an article to promote his religion? May be Islam has already destroyed most of his brain cells, and that's why he's exposing all the Islamic degeneracies thinking people would embrace them. What a moron (even for a Muslim)!
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[MrHappy]

Is that fool Stammerin' Yammin still around ?
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If you see a sacred cow, kick it.

[yeezevee]

[darth]

Zakaria implies that gender inequality is reinforced by God from the fact that most religions out there have been started by men.
So if you ladies are hung up on gender equality you could
1)Claim to converse with Gibreel
2)Make commonplace poetry out of the very common incidents happening in your common lives. Make sure that every other line says God is merciful or compassionate or some such thing
3) If your life is too common you could of course instigate people to do a lot of wicked things and then claim that you have divine mandate.
4) Claim a night flight to alpha century (the seven heavens have already been done)
5)Make all kinds of rules and regulations at your pleasure. (Husbands that do not do laundry and dishes will get hellfire)

[Orenda]

Ali's writing about smart people having stupid beliefs, coupled with Yamin's ramblings about Amina Wadud has reminded me of a conversation I recently had with a friend of mine. I respect him very much in many ways and he is, altogether, intelligent and fair, ( a so-called "progressive Muslim") but when asked why women in Islam aren't allowed to lead the prayer, instead of telling me how I was wrong and they could, as I expected him to say, he gave the stupidest answer - "What if the woman is leading the prayer and suddenly the (menstral) blood will come? Muslims cannot pray when they are bleeding so this would make it impossible for a woman to lead the prayer."
Later on he conceded that it was just a stupid excuse and he personally didn't find anything wrong with women leading prayers. Then he began to tell me about an older woman whom he saw leading prayer back in Pakistan. I guess she was allowed because she had reached menopause? He constantly wants me to distinguish between Islam as it is known, and his own Islam. I feel like Ali Sina when I am always arguing with him that "Why call it Islam when it is not? " "What are you trying to hold onto when you reject 80% of it already?" I show him verses of Qur'an and he won't defend the teachings but instead he tells me not to read it alone because it will make me a shaytan if I read the Quran alone without a teacher. I said, yeah this is proof that Quran has a negative effect, and he told me that only certain people with higher knowledge can understand it.
Then what is the point ? If only wise people can understand it , then it means it is dangerous to average people and useless to wise people who don't need it because rely on their wisdom to translate dangerous words into benign ones!

Anyways, 1 stupid belief down....a few more to go. He will become confident in his inner kufr one day

[Susan]

[R_Nelson]

[Hector]

Yamin Zakaria's view on inequality of the sexes is the typical Muslim view, including Muslim women, even those who are educated.

Therefore, I am going to be controversial and say that educated Muslim women must share the blame. I don't expect uneducated downtrodden Muslimahs to be in the position to change the misogynism in Islam. But educated Muslimahs should know better.

[darth]

[Blue]

[duckie]

I agree with Mr. Sina. The hypocrite "moderates" are worse than the Zakarias of the world. At least he knows it for what it is.

I was a moderate married to a moderate and dutifully turned a blind eye to the real Islam. Over the years, it became impossible. Women I knew were coerced into having babies even when it wasn't safe. Wives were at the mercy of their husbands because they had no means of support and were saddled by lots of kids. To keep them in line, they'd threaten to leave them destitute.

I found out there was polygyny here, which surprised me since it is illegal. One wife was convinced by her hubby to only have a "religious" ceremony, so when he left her she had no legal grounds as his wife. Another wife was blamed when a Muslim man made a pass at her and staulked her.

I was told by the moderates that women are "protected" in Islam. Personally, I think of divorce as a protection against ill-treatment, not a reason to take away women's rights. Muslims think divorce is a bad thing because it gives a woman options to get away from a bad husband. Bad husband: good. Divorce: bad.

My Muslim women friends were in shock when I filed for divorce, thinking that this was the worse thing that could happen to me. Muslim wives are conditioned into believing that they are nothing without their husbands. No, staying with a Muslim husband who could care less about his wife and children would have been much worse.

One of the things my ex asked me was "why can't you be a good Muslim wife?" I asked him, "What's a good Muslim wife?" He gave me look like he didn't appreciate my sarcasm, but he elaborated, "someone who never argues with her husband, does what she is told and respects him as the head of the household." This, coming from a "moderate" who was always telling non-Muslims how liberated his ideas were.

[Ali Sina]