A question:
How do the contemporary Hanafi scholars explain the
hadeeth recorded in Sahih Al-Bukhari according to
which Khalifah Umar (Allah be pleased with him) asked
Ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) to ask Allah
for rain on behalf of the Muslim community and not
the Prophet Muhammad

at his grave. The Khalifah
said that they USED to ask the Prophet Muhammad

to ask Allah and now they asked his uncle instead.
Before turning to the question and its questionable
premises some preliminary remarks are in order.
First of all, `Umar asked al-`Abbas ibn `Abd al-Muttalib,
not his son `Abd Allah ibn `Abbas. What was posted recently
on the Hanbali forum is a mistake which I pointed out to the author.
Second, the terminology of the Khalifa's request, Allah
be well-pleased with him, is as follows:
"O Allah! We would use our Prophet as a means to You and
You then sent us rain; now we use our Prophet's uncle as
a means to You, therefore send us rain!"
Narrated from Anas by al-Bukhari in his Sahih.
“Whoever understands from this that `Umar only used al-`Abbas
as his means and not the Messenger of Allah, upon him peace,
because al-`Abbas is alive and the Messenger of Allah is dead –
that person’s understanding is dead.” (Al-Maliki)
Al-Suyuti mentions the context of this event in his Tarikh
al-Khulafa' (Beirut, 1992 Ahmad Fares ed. p. 140):
"In the year 17 `Umar enlarged the Prophetic mosque. That
year there was a drought in the Hijaz. It was named the
Year of Cinders (`am al-ramada). `Umar prayed for rain
for the people by means of al-`Abbas. Ibn Sa`d narrated
from [the Sahabi] Niyar al-Aslami that when `Umar came out to pray for rain, he came out wearing the cloaks
(burd) of the Messenger of Allah, upon him blessings and peace.
Ibn `Awn narrated that `Umar took al-`Abbas's hand and raised
it up, saying, 'O Allah, we seek a means to You with the
uncle of Your Prophet to ask that You drive away from us
the drought and water us with rain'...."
Now, the event of the tawassul of Sayyiduna `Umar through
al-`Abbas shows the following:
[1] Nowhere in the hadith is there any indication that there
was no tawassul through the Prophet
upon him peace, in the
time of `Umar. Such a view is an inference or an extrapolation
that is not based on explicit evidence.
[2] On the contrary, `Umar implicitly made tawassul through
the Prophet
upon him peace, at that very time, by wearing
his blessed cloaks as he came out for the prayer for rain
as mentioned in the report by Ibn Sa`d. In Sahih Muslim Asma'
says that she inherited the mantle of the Prophet from her
sister `A'isha and that they used it to seek a cure for people.
[3] The use of the Prophet's uncle illustrates that tawassul
is essentially through the Prophet
upon him peace, as the
importance of al-`Abbas in this respect is only in his
relationship to the Prophet as `Umar himself states with
the words "the uncle of Your Prophet" in al-Bukhari's version
already mentioned; "the status of al-`Abbas in relation to
your Prophet" in al-Lalika'i's version; and as al-`Abbas states:
"O Allah, truly no tribulation descends except because
of sins, nor is lifted except upon repentence. The people
have turned to you by means of me BECAUSE OF MY POSITION
IN RELATION TO YOUR PROPHET, and here are our hands [raised
up] towards you - despite our sins - and our forelocks in
repentence, so send down water for us and PRESERVE YOUR
PROPHET IN THE PERSON OF HIS UNCLE." Whereupon the sky
let down water as thick as ropes and the people came over to
al-`Abbas passing their hands over him and saying to him:
“Congratulations to you, irrigator of the two Sanctuaries!”
Whereupon `Umar said, “He/This is, by Allah, the means to
Allah and the place of nearness to Him!”
Cited from al-Zubayr ibn Bakkar's narration in al-Ansab by Ibn
Hajar in Fath al-Bari (2:497).
So the tawassul continues to be solely through the Prophet
despite appearances to the contrary, for he is the ultimate
recourse of human beings seeking nearness to Allah as he
himself taught the blind man (“Say, ‘O Muhammad, I turn
with you to Allah…’”) and as several Sahaba explicitly said,
such as in the following reports:
(a) Report of the Bedouin who said to the Holy Prophet
:
We have come to you when even our virgins' milk is dry,
and the mother worries for her own life over her child's,
The child lets down his arms sitting still
For hunger, a hunger unstilled and uninterrupted.
We have nothing left from what our people eat
Except bitter colocynth and camel-wool mixed with blood.
And we have none but you to flee to,
for where can people flee except to the Messengers?
Then the Prophet
- upon him peace - stood up and he was
dragging his garment. He climbed up the pulpit and said:
"O Allah, send us water...." whereupon rain fell abundantly.
Then the Prophet
upon him peace said: "If Abu Talib were
alive he would have liked to see this. Who will recite
for us what he said?" Hearing this, `Ali stood up and
said: "O Messenger of Allah, I think you mean his saying:
A fair-skinned one by whose face rainclouds are sought,
A caretaker for the orphans and protector of widows.
With him the clan of Hashim seek refuge from calamities,
For they possess in him immense favor and grace...."
Narrated by al-Bayhaqi in Dala'il al-Nubuwwa (6:141) cf.
Ibn Kathir, al-Bidaya wal-Nihaya (6:90-91) and Ibn Hajar,
Fath al-Bari (1989 ed. 2:629).
(b) Report of Sawad ibn Qarib al-Sadusi who declaimed:
Truly, you are the nearest of all Messengers as a
means to Allah, son of the noblest and purest ones!
Therefore, be an intercessor for me the Day
none but you among intercessors shall be
of the least benefit for Sawad ibn Qarib!
Whereupon the Prophet
smiled, upon him peace, and said:
“You have obtained success, Sawad!”
Narrated by Abu Ya`la in his Mu`jam (p. 265), al-Tabarani
in al-Kabir (7:94 §6475), Abu Nu`aym in Dala’il al-Nubuwwa
(p. 114 §63), al-Taymi in the Dala’il (p. 132), al-Hakim in
the Mustadrak, (3:705), al-Bayhaqi in the Dala'il (2:251) cf.
Ibn `Abd al-Barr, Isti`ab (2:675), Ibn Kathir, Tafsir (4:169)
and Bidaya, Ibn Hajar, Fath al-Bari (7:180) and Isaba (3:219).
(c) Report of Hassan ibn Thabit who declaimed:
O Pillar of those who rely upon you,
O Immunity of those who seek refuge in you,
and Resort of those who seek herbiage and rain,
and Neighboring Protector of those in need of shelter!
O you whom the One God has chosen for His creatures
by planting in him perfection and purity of character!
Narrated by Ibn `Abd al-Barr in al-Isti`ab (1:276) and Ibn
Sayyid al-Nas in Minah al-Mad-h (p. 73).
[4] The background to `Umar's prayer for rain shows that
there was also an explicit tawassul through the Prophet
upon him peace, performed by the Sahabi Bilal ibn al-Harith
as narrated in two versions:
(a) Version 1
From the Sahabi Malik al-Dar:
The people suffered a drought in `Umar's khilafa, whereupon
a man came to the grave of the Prophet
sallAllahu `alayhi wa-
Alihi wa-Sallam and said: "Messenger of Allah! Ask for rain
for your Community, for verily they have but perished." After
this the Prophet
appeared to him in a dream and told him: "Go
to `Umar and give him my greeting, then tell him that they
will be watered. Tell him: Be clever!" The man went and told
`Umar. The latter wept and said: "My Lord! I spare no effort
except in what escapes my power."
Ibn Kathir cites it thus from al-Bayhaqi's Dala'il al-Nubuwwa
(7:47) in al-Bidaya wal-Nihaya (Ma`arif ed. 7:91-92=Dar Ihya'
al-Turath ed. 7:105) saying: "isnaduhu sahih" and he also
declares its chain sound (isnaduhu jayyidun qawi) in his Jami`
al-Masanid (1:223) in Musnad `Umar. Ibn Abi Shayba cites it
(6:352=12:31-32) with a sound (sahih) chain as confirmed by
Ibn Hajar who says: "rawa Ibn Abi Shayba bi'isnadin sahih"
and cites the hadith in Fath al-Bari, Book of Istisqa ch. 3
(1989 ed. 2:629-630=1959 ed. 2:495) as well as in al-Isaba
(6:164 §8350=3:484) where he says that Ibn Abi Khaythama cited
it. It is also thus narrated by al-Khalili in al-Irshad (1:313-
314) and Ibn `Abd al-Barr in al-Isti`ab (2:464=3:1149).
Al-Albani attempted to weaken this report in his Tawassul (p.
120) but was refuted in the lengthy analysis given by Mamduh
in Raf` al-Minara (p. 262-278), which refutes other similar
attempts cf. Ibn Baz's marginalia on Fath al-Bari, Abu Bakr
al-Jaza'iri's tract Wa-Ja'u Yarkudun, Hammad al-Ansari's
articles "al-Mafhum al-Sahih lil-Tawassul" also titled "Tuhfat
al-Qari fil-Radd `ala al-Ghumari," and other such literature.
Ibn Hajar identifies the man who visited and saw the Prophet
upon him peace, in his dream as the Companion Bilal ibn al-
Harith, counting this hadith among the reasons for al-
Bukhari's naming of the chapter "The people's request to
their leader for rain if they suffer drought" in his Sahih,
book of Istisqa'.
(b) Version 2 from al-Tabari's Tarikh (2:509):
In the year of the drought called al-Ramada during the
successorship of `Umar the Companion Bilal ibn al-Harith,
while slaughtering a sheep for his kin, noticed that the
sheep's bones had turned red because the drying flesh was
clinging to them. He cried out "Ya Muhammadah!" Then he saw
the Prophet
- upon him peace - in a dream ordering him to
go to `Umar with the tidings of coming rain on condition
that `Umar show wisdom. Hearing this, `Umar assembled the
people and came out to pray for rain with al-`Abbas, the
uncle of the Prophet
upon him blessings and peace.
[5] `Umar had made tawassul through the Prophet
in the past,
upon him peace, since he said: "WE WOULD USE OUR PROPHET
AS A MEANS TO YOU..." i.e. in his and Abu Bakr's rule (and
not only during the life of the Prophet
upon him peace), as
it is improbable that they never once experienced drought
in the previous 8.5 years. “But to restrict this sententence to the
Prophet's lifetime is a deficiency stemming from idle lust,
a manipulation of the text of the report, and figurative
interpretation without proof.” (Al-Kawthari)
[6] At any rate the major Sahaba did make tawassul through
the Prophet
upon him peace, after his time as established
by the report from our Mother `A'isha - Allah be well-
pleased with her - in al-Darimi's Sunan, in the 15th Chapter
of the Introduction (1:43) titled: "Allah's generosity to
His Prophet after his death," related from Aws ibn `Abd Allah
with a good chain:
"The people of Madina complained to `A'isha of the
severe drought that they were suffering. She said: "Go
to the Prophet's grave and open a window towards the sky
so that there will be no roof between him and the sky."
They did so, after which they were watered with such
rain that vegetation grew and the camels got fat. That
year was named the Year of Plenty."
The reader will find extensive documentation on this
report in the Encyclopedia of Islamic Doctrine (4:47-52)
and it was declared authentic by all the Sunni experts of
hadith, last in date Shaykh Nabil ibn Hashim al-Ghamri in
his 1999 10-volume edition of and commentary on al-Darimi
titled Fath al-Mannan (1:564-566) where he rejects the
objections of al-Albani and his likes to this hadith.
[7] `Umar had made tawassul through the Prophet
upon him
peace, in the campaign of Tabuk and had therefore directly
experienced the Divine munificence and Prophetic generosity.
"When the travel provision of the people decreased they
thought of slaughtering their camels but `Umar came to
the Prophet
upon him peace, and said, 'How will they
survive without their camels?' The Prophet
said, 'Call
to them to bring every remainder of their travel
provisions.' A piece of leather was spread and they
brought whatever they had. Then the Messenger of Allah
stood and supplicated, then he blessed over the food
and summoned them to being their bags. The people
supplied themselves to the last one. Then the Messenger
of Allah said, 'I bear witness that there is no god but
Allah and that I am the Messenger of Allah!'"
Narrated from Salama ibn al-Akwa` by al-Bukhari and Muslim
and from Abu Hurayra by Muslim and Ahmad.
[8] `Umar used al-`Abbas to show people the status of the
Prophet's family in the society and teach them to respect
and venerate them, as Ibn Hajar said in explanation of the
report of Anas cited above:
"It is desirable to seek the intercession of saintly people
and the relatives of the Prophet
sallAllahu `alayhi wa-Alihi
wa-Sallam, and it shows al-`Abbas's great merit and that
of `Umar due to the latter's humbleness before al-`Abbas
and his recognition of his due right."
This is confirmed by al-Ajurri's narration in al-Shari`a
and Ahmad in Fada'il al-Sahaba (2:937 #1802) that Ka`b al-
Ahbar took al-`Abbas's hand and said, "I shall hide it away
[this handshake] for your intercession on my behalf." Al-
`Abbas replied: "Why, will I have the power of intercession?"
Ka`b said: "Yes, there is none from the Household of the
Prophet
upon him and them peace, except they have the power
of intercession!" Ka`b al-Ahbar also said to Sayyidina `Umar:
"Whenever the Israelites had a drought they sought intercession
through their Prophet's household" as narrated by Ibn `Abd al-
Barr in al-Isti`ab (2:814).
[9] It is known that `Umar had a particular veneration for
the Prophetic Household (Ahl al-Bayt) as illustrated by the
following reports:
(a) Ibn Sa`d narrated from al-Sha`bi and al-Hasan that al-
`Abbas had some need of `Umar one day and said to him:
"Commander of the Believers, suppose the uncle of Musa,
upon him peace, came to you as a Muslim, how would you
treat him?" He replied, "I swear by Allah that I would
treat him well!" Al-`Abbas said, "Well, I am the uncle
of Muhammad the Prophet
- upon him and his House blessings
and peace!" `Umar said, "Abu al-Fadl, and what do you
suppose? By Allah, your father [`Abd al-Muttalib] is
certainly dearer to me than my own father!" He said, "By
Allah?" `Umar said, "By Allah, yes! Because I know that
he [`Abd al-Muttalib] is dearer to the Messenger of Allah
than my own father, therefore I prefer the love of the
Messenger of Allah to my love."
(b) A man disparaged `Ali ibn Abi Talib in the presence
of `Umar whereupon the latter said: "Do you know the
dweller of this grave? He is Muhammad ibn `Abd Allah ibn
`Abd al-Muttalib. And `Ali is the son of Abu Talib ibn
`Abd al-Muttalib. Therefore, do not mention `Ali except
in a good way for if you dislike him you will harm this
one in his grave." Narrated by Ahmad with a good chain in
Fada'il al-Sahaba (2:641 #1089).
(c) After `Umar saw al-Husayn ibn `Ali ibn Abi Talib waiting
at his door he said to him: "You are more deserving of
permission to enter than [my son] `Abd Allah ibn `Umar!
You see the goodness that was placed on our head; [therefore]
first Allah; then you [the Prophetic Household]!" and he
placed his hand on his head as he spoke. Narrated by Ibn
Sa`d, Ibn Rahuyah, and al-Khatib.
(d) Jabir said he heard `Umar ibn al-Khattab say on the
pulpit after he married Umm Kulthum, the daughter of `Ali and
Fatima - Allah be well-pleased with them:
"Do not disparage me [for marrying a young girl], for
I heard the Prophet
say, upon him blessings and peace:
'On the Judgment Day every means will be cut off and
every lineage severed except my lineage.'"
Narrated by al-Tabarani. Al-Haythami said its narrators are
those of al-Bukhari and Muslim.
`Umar desired to place himself in the Prophet's lineage
through this marriage due to the precedence of Ahl al-Bayt
in the Prophet's intercession, upon him and them peace.
[10] Nor is this intercession solely by way of the Prophet's
mere supplication (du`a) and by means of al-`Abbas's mere
supplication as claimed by the innovators and by the
terminology of the question cited above. Rather, it
was by means of their person (dhat) AND du`a as literally
stated in the following reports among many others:
(a) Intercession through the Prophet's person according to Ibn `Umar:
In Sahih al-Bukhari: `Abdullah ibn Dinar said:
"I heard Ibn `Umar reciting the poetic verses of Abu Talib:
A fair-skinned one by whose face rainclouds are sought,
A caretaker for the orphans and protector of widows.
"`Umar ibn Hamza said: Salim narrated from his father
(Ibn `Umar) that the latter said: "The poet's saying
came to my mind as I was looking at the face of the
Prophet
- upon him blessings and peace - while he was
praying for rain - and he did not come down until the
rain water flowed profusely from every roof-gutter:
A fair-skinned one by whose face rainclouds are sought,
A caretaker for the orphans and protector of widows."
One sub-narrator added: "These were the words of Abu Talib."
Note that in his translation of Bukhari (2:65), Muhammad
Muhsin Khan alters the wording of the hadith to read: "A
white person WHO IS REQUESTED TO PRAY FOR RAIN" in place
of "by whose face rain is sought." This is tahrif i.e.
textual and semantic manipulation of the most important
source in Islam after the Qur'an.
(b) Intercession through al-`Abbas's person according to `Umar:
"People! The Messenger of Allah sallAllahu `alayhi wa-Alihi
wa-Sallam considered al-`Abbas like his father, venerating
him and greatly respecting him and his rights. Therefore, O
people! take the lead of the Messenger of Allah in the
person of his uncle al-`Abbas and take the latter as your
means to Allah Most High in the context of your tribulation."
Narrated from `Umar with a sound chain by al-Baladhiri and with
weak chains from Ibn `Umar by al-Zubayr ibn Bakkar in al-Ansab
and Ibn `Asakir in Tarikh Dimashq (8:932) as cited by Ibn Hajar
in the Fath (1959 ed. 2:497). Shaykh Mahmud Mamduh in Raf` al-
Minara (p. 120) rejected al-Albani's claim in his book al-Tawassul
(p. 67-68) that the chain of this hadith is "mixed up" (mudtarib)
as inapplicable here.
[11] `Umar showed the possibility of tawassul through X. even
though Y. - also present - may be better than X. He showed
that tawassul through the inferior in the presence of the
superior is permissible as there is Consensus that the best of
all living human beings after Prophets then, namely `Umar,
`Uthman, and `Ali are all three superior to al-`Abbas, Allah be
well-pleased with all of them. This was also a mark of humbleness
on `Umar's part as already cited from Fath al-Bari. Another
example of this is the tawassul of Mu`awiya for rain through
the Sahabi Yazid ibn al-Aswad al-`Amiri as narrated by Abu Zur`a
al-Dimashqi in his Tarikh and his tawassul also through the
Tabi`i Abu Muslim al-Khawlani as narrated by Ahmad in al-Zuhd
cf. al-Tahanawi, I`la' al-Sunan (8:193).
[12] `Umar used al-`Abbas also as a precaution lest people's
faith in the Prophet
upon him peace, be shaken in case the
prayer were not answered.
[13] Finally, the Sunna prayer for rain formally has to be
performed by the outward, political Imam of the Muslims or
his deputy. It is in that function that the office of the
Messenger of Allah – upon him blessings and peace – had
ceased and was taken over, first by Abu Bakr, then by `Umar.
Al-`Abbas’s position in this event is that of the deputy of
the latter as the Commander of the Believers. And Allah knows best.
--
I have compiled the above from the references cited below
and the lights imparted by my teachers on this subject –
may Allah keep them and thank them for guarding pure and
authentic Sunni doctrine from the ignorant and the extremists.
Contemporary Hanafi References:
- Al-Kawthari, Muhammad Zahid. "Mahq al-Taqawwul fi Mas'alat
al-Tawassul" ("The Eradication of Gossip Concerning the Use
of Intermediaries") in his Maqalat ("Essays") and recently
published as a monograph with introduction and notes by
Shaykh Wahbi Sulayman Ghawji (1997).
- Al-Dajwi, Yusuf Ahmad – al-Kawthari’s Shaykh. Four Articles
on tawassul originally published in Majallat al-Azhar and
reprinted at the beginning of Ghawji’s edition of al-Kawthari’s
“Mahq al-Taqawwul.”
- Ghawji, Wahbi Sulayman. Introduction to Mahq al-Taqawwul.
- Al-Nass, Samer. Al-Wasilatu ila Fahmi Haqiqat al-Tawassul
("The Means to Understanding the Truth of Seeking a Means").
Beirut: Dar al-Tawfiq, 2003. The best treatment in our opinion.
Other references:
- Muhammad ibn `Alawi al-Maliki, Mafahim Yajib an Tusahhah
("Necessary Correction of Certain Misconceptions"). 10th ed.
(p. 153-156.)
- Abul-Hasanayn `Abd Allah ibn `Abd al-Rahman al-Makki al-
Hashimi, al-Salafiyya al-Mu`asira: Munaqashat wa-Rudud
(“Contemporary Salafism: Discussions and Rebuttals”) p. 143-145.
- Al-Ghumari, Irgham al-Mubtadi` al-Ghabi bi-Jawaz al-
Tawassul bil-Nabi ("Compelling the Dunderheaded Innovator to
Accept the Permissibility of Using the Prophet as a Means"). Ed.
Hasan `Ali al-Saqqaf. 2nd ed. Amman: Dar al-Imam al-Nawawi, 1992.
- Mahmud Mamduh, Raf` al-Minara bi-Ahadith al-Tawassul wal-
Ziyara ("Raising the Lighthouse with the Hadiths of Seeking
Means and Visitation [of the Prophet]") p. 118-121.
In his book (al-balagh-ul-Mubeen) Imam Shah Waliullah
infers that the Khalifah did not consider it allowed
to ask those who had left this world or the absent for
intercession.
This is contrary to the view reported from Shah Wali Allah
in his book Fuyud al-Haramayn ("The Outpourings of the
Two Sanctuaries) cf. http://www.al-maqsood.org/islam/shah-1.htm
The apparent contradiction is explained by the fact
that some books of Shah Wali Allah may not be free
from Wahhabistic interpolations, see LivingIslam.org < Ibn Taymiyya/ Shah Wali Allah/ Ibn `Abd al-Barr >
It is known that the beasts themselves ask for rain as in
the Prophetic hadith of the ant narrated from Abu Hurayra
by al-Daraqutni, his student al-Hakim, and others:
cf. Ibn Abi Shayba (6:62, 7:71)
Abu al-Shaykh, al-`Azama (5:1572)
Ibn Kathir, Tafsir (3:360)
Ibn Hajar, Talkhis al-Habir (2:97 #718)
Ibn al-Mulaqqin, Khulasat al-Badr (1:250)
Al-San`ani, Subul al-Salam (2:83)
Al-Shawkani, Nayl al-Awtar (4:27)
Al-Tahanawi, I`la' al-Sunan (8:193).
And the Sunna requires us to bring the beasts out during
the prayer for rain, and the Prophet said,
- upon him peace,
- "Were it not for the beasts they [who withhold zakat]
would never be granted rain." Narrated by Ibn Majah.
- "Were it not for the pasturing beasts punishment would
be poured on you literally." Abu Ya`la, al-Bazzar and others.
So we may hope for their intercession, but not for that of
the Prophet Muhammad??
No, the Khalifah did not consider the Prophet
upon him
peace, to be absent nor to have left this world. Otherwise,
why did he address the Prophet
upon him peace, and Abu Bakr
in their graves as narrated by al-Tabarani through
trustworthy narrators (see below) and why was "nothing
more important to him" - as narrated from him by al-
Bukhari in his Sahih - than to be buried near them?
Qays ibn Abi Hazim narrated that one day, `Umar addressed
the people from the pulpit in Madina and said in his address:
"Verily there is in the Gardens of `Adn a palace which
has five hundred doors, each posted with five thousand
of the ladies of Paradise, and none but a Prophet shall
enter it." At this point he turned to the grave of the
Messenger of Allah - upon him blessings and peace - and
said: "Congratulations to you, O dweller of this grave!"
Then he continued: "And none but a Most-Truthful One
(siddiq) shall enter it." At this point he turned towards
Abu Bakr's grave and said: "Congratulations to you, Abu Bakr!"
Then he said: "And none but a Martyr shall enter it," and
he pointed to himself. He continued, speaking to himself
outloud: "And when did you inherit martyrdom, `Umar?" Then
he said: "Truly, the One who brought me out from Makka unto
the migration to Madina is able to bring me martyrdom!"
Al-Tabarani narrated it in al-Awsat through trustworthy
narrators cf. al-Haythami, Majma` al-Zawa'id (9:54-55).
Do the Ahnaaf consider Khalifah Umar to have performed
his ijtihad on this issue but the Ahnaaf disagreed with
him? Please explain.
Even if the act of `Umar were not originally a Sunna - which
it is - the ijtihad of the Khulafa' al-Rashidin nevertheless
has the probative force of Sunna in this Religion, with which
no School, Hanafi or other, is at liberty to differ. Not that
the Ahnaaf disagreed with him in this or in anything else
whatsoever that comes to mind! And it is a poorly phrased
question indeed that places an entire Sunni School in the
immaterial position of disagreeing with one of the Khulafa'
al-Rashidin when this is the exclusive wont of Ahl al-Bid`a.
Hajj Gibril
GF Haddad
[Mon, 20 Oct 2003]