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In my quest for truth, I have had multiple exchanges of views with followers of various religions. The following is a list of various such letters___ discussing and debating points from the Bible, Roohani Tohfa and other Holy Scriptures, throwing and accepting challenges, etc.

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2 May 2011Tanweer ShahIllias SuttarWant answer of Christians questionsA collection of questions posed by the questioner's Christian friends
Fri 8/28/2009 9:08 AMAbu Bakr and all members of the mailing listIllias SuttarRe: NO CONTRADICTION IN QURAN-- CONFUSION REMOVEDMEANINGS OF KALALA.....
Wed 8/12/2009 9:14 AMMr Zeeshan and all members of the mailing listIllias SuttarRe: NO CONTRADICTION IN QURAN-- CONFUSION REMOVEDTo the article: Quranic Contradiction Removed, Brother Zeeshan had objected to the public criticism of MaAriful Quran... both my reply and his objection are contained here
Thu 10/30/2008 9:04 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarWHICH TRANSLATION IS CORRECT?How do you justify translating Arabic Khalifa as “mankind” or “generation after generation” I have read somewhere that “Khalifa means a successor and so it is clear that men had lived before...
Thu 8/23/2007 9:06 AMSalahuddin Bhai and all members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]Re: Flowers for Lahori Ahmadi....you are requested to discuss in this discussion forum only. No private discussions please.
Mon 8/20/2007 9:43 AMIllias Suttar and all members of the mailing listsalahuddin [salloo2001@yahoo.com]Re: Flowers for Lahori Ahmadive forwarded ur msg to the concerned person
Mon 8/20/2007 12:54 AMSalahuddin and all members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]Flowers for Lahori AhmadiPlease hurry with identification before any other correspondence.
Fri 8/10/2007 12:57 PMIllias Suttar and all members of the mailing listsalahuddin [salloo2001@yahoo.com]waiting for ur replyanxiously waiting for ur reply to the answer of ur challenge...
Tue 8/7/2007 9:32 AMAll members of the mailing listsalahuddin [salloo2001@yahoo.com]Re: 3 PERSONS WITH IDENTIFICATIONMr Salahuddin responds..
Mon 8/6/2007 12:28 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]3 PERSONS WITH IDENTIFICATIONConclusive discussions!
Thu 8/2/2007 9:41 AMIllias Suttar and all members of the mailing listsalahuddin [salloo2001@yahoo.com]Re: IDENTICAL PROBLEM OF IDENTIFICATIONthanks for remembering me in ur good words and ...
Sat 7/28/2007 7:34 PMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]IDENTICAL PROBLEM OF IDENTIFICATIONBoth Faiza and Salahuddin are silent. This is most interesting identical problem of identification.
Wed 7/4/2007 10:24 AMSalahuddin Bhai and all members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]IDENTIFICATION -- S. No.1For purpose of your identification and the identification of the writer of the article., the following are necessary for both.
Mon 6/25/2007 10:48 AMSalahuddin Bhai and all members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]COURT OR AUDITORIUMI have all the answers to the points raised in his article.But you must prove that you are a genuine person and your emails are genuine. Because one Faiza Ayesha has said after 5 years that her email address was hacked. And now...
Mon 6/25/2007 10:47 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]FAIZA, BREAK YOUR SILENCE Your reply is still awaited. I wanted you to let me know that your emails are genuine and not hacked now. THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE REQUEST.
Thu 6/14/2007 1:50 AMAziz Mirza and all members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]WINNING THE HEARTSLet us dedicate our life to the pursuit of truth and to the establishment of the Kingdom of Love.
Tue 6/5/2007 11:22 AMFaiza Ayesha and all members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]Re: PLEASE CLARIFY SOON1. Please give solid proof that now you are yourself mailing and someone else is not mailing from your hacked address.
2. ...
Mon 6/4/2007 6:58 PMAll members of the mailing listFaiza Ayesha [faiza_ayesha@hotmail.com]RE: PLEASE CLARIFY SOONmy this account was created in 1999.....
Sat 6/2/2007 7:21 PMFaiza Ayesha and all members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]PLEASE CLARIFY SOONYour request to remove your name from.....
Mon 5/21/2007 10:23 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]BUKHARI SHAREEF AND TAFSEER IBN-E-KASEER SUPPORT MY ARTICLEAn interesting point I found out that Bukhari Shareef's first hadis in Kitabus Salat and 1st Hadis in Babul Mairaj, they both support my article...
Sat 5/5/2007 9:58 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]YOUR CO-OPERATION IS NEEDEDForged emails being sent in Illias Suttar's name
Mon 3/5/2007 11:33 AMAll members of the mailing listSamiya IlliasRe:SCIENCE AND RELIGION ------ONE FRICTION REMOVED...Those of you who are familiar with the Arabic language, please check it out and correct me if I’m wrong, because from the above translations, it appears that there were humans indeed before Adam, and Allah (swt) taught him their names.
Mon 11/13/2006 9:49 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarRe: PROPHET WAS TAKEN TO THE HEAVENS ACCORDING TO THE HOLY QURANResponse to confusion over Surah Al-Isra
Sun 12/31/2006 3:24 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarOne Builder; Two HousesArticle by Rizwan Kherati: One builder Two houses!!!
Fri 12/1/2006 9:03 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarHelp neededWho built Masjid-e-Aqsa?
Thu 11/9/2006 9:49 PMAll members of the mailing listarsal [achu302@yahoo.com]Re: PROPHET WAS TAKEN TO THE HEAVENS ACCORDING TO THE HOLY QURANAppreciating the article
Fri 6/23/2006 12:06 AMAll members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Re: Ex-Pastor offers Mubahilla to David WoodAdbulllah Sheikh also advised to go to court
Fri 6/23/2006 12:06 AMAll members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Re: Jews and Christians did not know the Age of Ishmael.Illias Suttar your understanding is too poor ...
Thu 6/15/2006 1:50PMAll members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Re: Can God Lie according to the Holy Bible???Bishop T. Nasir responds to the new article Can God Lie in his inimitable style!
Wed 5/17/2006 9:23 AM Illias Suttar and all members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Re: ILLIAS INSTITUTES SUIT AGAINST BISHOP IN HIGH COURT
Sat 5/13/2006 9:50 PMIllias Suttar & all members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Copies of Saut Ul Islam Required.
Tue, 16 May 2006 20:54:43 +0200"Illias Suttar" "W. Gill" Can i ask you some thing??A visitor comments....
Sat 5/13/2006 2:00 AMAll members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Izat ka BhikariIn response to the suit instituted in the Sindh High Court, the Bishop responds...
Thu 5/11/2006 11:47 PMAbid Kuaim Khani and all members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Bad smell of decomposing body of Dead Man."The dead man has sought the help of Sindh High Court and ..."
Wed 5/10/2006 10:58 PMIllias SuttarJaved [ijk47@hotmail.com]Your website: Can Ahmedis AnswerA visitor critizes.....
Wed 5/10/2006 12:03 AMAbid Kuaim Khani & All members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Re: Islamabad Munazarah & demanding 2 Crores Rupees????Bishop T. Nasir responds to Abid Kuaim Khani's mail, and claims to be 'Winner of "Mubahilla or Manazrra" '
Sat 5/6/2006 8:05 PMGunner and All members of the mailing listAbid Kuaim Khani [abidkk77@hotmail.com]Islamabad Munazarah & demanding 2 Crores Rupees????Mr. Abid elucidates Bishop T. Nasir's mistakes / error / lies over the years
Jan-Dec 2006Illias SuttarAziz MirzaCan answer Illias Suttar's questionsCollection of Aziz Mirza's letters written, in Urdu, to Illias Suttar. Aziz mirza converted from Islam to Christianity!
Mon 4/3/2006 12:42 AMAziz Mirza (a convert to Christianity)Illias SuttarCHALLENGE TO NEW CHRISTIAN IN GERMANYI have received four letters from a new Christian in Germany. His name is Aziz Mirza. ..... All his letters carry his picture holding a cross in his hand.
Tue 3/7/2006 12:16pmAll members of the mailing listBishop T. NasirRe: WHOSE SLAVE WAS HAGAR IN THE TORAH ??Bishop Nasir considers Illias dead yet can't resist replying!
Wed 2/22/2006 1:07pmAll members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Re: 20 million challenge to Catholic EncyclopediaResponse of Bishop to the challenging article "Mummy of the drowned Pharoah"
Sun 2/5/2006 1:58PMAll members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Mourning Dead ManOn 1st January 2006, a self proclaimed “Scholar” called “Illias Sattar, after failing to meet my “Challenge” of a Debate on Islam at Islamabad for which the “Dead Line” of 31st December 2005 ....
Wed 2/1/2006 6:27PMAll members of the mailing listsoldier [soldier@gjr.paknet.com.pk]Re: Ex-Pastor offers Mubahilla to David WoodAnother outbursts!
Wed 2/1/2006 6:25PMAll members of the mailing listsoldier [soldier@gjr.paknet.com.pk]Re: Ex-Pastor offers Mubahilla to David WoodBishop Nasir is annoyed by the mention of his name in ex-pastor's letter to Ahsen Malik
Wed 2/1/2006 4:18 PMAll members of the mailing listAbdullah Shaikh [ex_padri@yahoo.com]Ex-Pastor offers Mubahilla to David WoodAbdullah Sheikh(ex-pastor) offers Mubahilla to David Wood in lieu of Ahsen Malik
Wed 1/25/2006 7:54 PMAhsen Malik and All members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]I WILL OFFER MUBAHILLA TO DAVID WOODSince Ahsen Malik is backing out of the Mubahilla, Illias Suttar offers to engage David Wood in discussion, and, if the need arises, will offer Mubahilla
Wed 1/26/2006 4:25 AMIllias Suttar and All members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Re: I WILL OFFER MUBAHILLA TO DAVID WOODThe Bishop is offended by the analogy drawn between him and the Christians of Najran 1400 years ago
Sun 1/22/2006 Zain Rafiquigunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Tamez say bat karo!Bishop T. Nasir responds to Zain Rafiqui
Mon 1/23/2006 12:35 AMAll members of the mailing listahsen@amalik.comPlease Pray For MeAhsen Malik is not sure if he has done the right thing by challenging to Mubahilla, and is repenting and requesting everybody to pray for his forgiveness.
Thu 1/19/2006 12:44 PMAll members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Re: POEM FROM THE HOMETOWN OF BISHOP T. NASIRBishop responds to Zain Rafiqui's poem.
Wed 1/11/2006 1:14 AMillias@super.net.pkZain Rafiqui [shuhada_786@yahoo.com]Poem from the hometown of BishopPoem in Urdu by Zain Rafiqui on the Bishop's inability to stand by his tall claims!
Sun 1/15/2006 6:03 PMAhsen MalikIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]Re: Mubahala AgreementIllias Suttar congratulates and encourages Ahsen Malik
Thu 1/12/2006 8:10 AMIllas SattarAhsen Malik [ahsen@amalik.com]Mubahala AgreementAhsen Malik sends link to the Mubahilla between him and a Christian
Sun 1/15/2006 6:01 PMShaikh Raheal AhmadIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]Re: DISCLOSING ONE DIVINE SECRET ABOUT MUBAHILAThankyou very much for your very encouraging email.
Fri 1/13/2006 10:23 AMillias@super.net.pkZain Rafiqui [shuhada_786@yahoo.com]MUBARAK BAAD Rafiqui sends his congratulations on Bishop T. Nasir's unconditional apology to Illias Suttar
Sun 1/8/2006 5:15 PMAll members of the mailing listShaikh Raheal Ahmad [rahealshaikh@hotmail.com]RE: DISCLOSING ONE DIVINE SECRET ABOUT MUBAHILASheikh Raheel endorses Illias Suttar's work and encourages him to carry on!
Sun 1/8/2006 12:29 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarDISCLOSING ONE DIVINE SECRET ABOUT MUBAHILAIllias Suttar reveals his experience while making the mubahilla agreement
Sun 1/1/2006 7:24 PMAll members of the mailing listBishop T. Nasir (gunner)Merhoom Illias SattarBishop continues building castles in the air!
Fri 12/30/2005 7:41 PMAll members of the mailing listBishop T. Nasir (gunner)Your Suicide D -01Countdown continues!
Thu 12/29/2005 2:31 PMAll members of the mailing listBishop T. Nasir [gunner]Illias Sattar, Your Suicide D -2Daily reminder !!!
Mon 12/26/2005 9:42 PMillias@super.net.pkZain Rafiqui [shuhada_786@yahoo.com]Bishop Ki SharartainBishop T. Nasir has been unable to answer even the points I raised in my previous letter!
Fri 12/30/2005 1:32 AMAll members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Mulvi ki maut 1.1.06Countdown!!
Thu 12/29/2005 10:37 PMAll members of the mailing listBishop T. NasirMolvi Ka Jhoot aab Maro DoobBishop claims victory! Letter written from Bishop's email address but not signed.
Thu 12/29/2005 2:03 AMAll members of the mailing listGunnerYour Suicide D -3Bishop T. Nasir sends a reminder to Illias Suttar
Sun, 25th Dec 2005gunner; Ali Illiasgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Re: Your Suicide D - 6 It is my Victory on very Christmas Day that you are running away.
Thu 12/22/2005 1:16 AMBishop T. NasirIllias SuttarADVANCE PAYMENT OF REWARDIllias Suttar explains how he will pay for the cost of the Munazra, and a bank guarantee for Bishop Nasir.
Wed 1/7/1998 4:00 AMIllias Suttarsoldier [soldier@gjr.paknet.com.pk]Advance Payment.Bishop demands 10 lakhs advance non-refundable for arranging munazra!!
12/14/2005All members of the mailing listBishop NasirMonkeys on our backsBishop Nasir's response to Illias and other muslim scholars in Christian News International
Wed 12/14/2005All members of the mailing listSoldier (Bishop Nasir)Re: Rs. 10 (ten)lacs reward for arranging munazra]Bishop Nasir demands that Illias Suttar should make the munazra arrangements, and within 18 days!
Sat, 10 Dec 2005 01:10:32 +0500Illias SuttarMateen KhalidRs. 10 (ten)lacs reward for arranging munazraMateen Khalid's response
Sat 12/10/2005 1:11 AMBishop T. Nasir (gunner)Illias SuttarRs. 10 (ten)lacs reward for arranging munazraIllias Suttar welcomes the idea of Munazra of Major Bishop
4th Dec 2005Bishop Nasir and his friendsZain-u-Shuda RafiquiResponse to Legal Notice from Faisalabad ChurchThey are urged to take the case to Court as Illias Suttar has asked the lawyer to not to wait for an apolgy!
Mon 11/21/2005 1:50 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]BISHOP T. NASIR, THE "IDIOTIC ARTICLE" & ALFREDIllias Suttar responds to Gunner's disbelief and Arsal's response to it!
Sun 11/20/2005 12:43 AMAll members of the mailing listMuhammad Arsal Latif [achu302@yahoo.com]Re: [Fwd: CHRISTIAN EMBRACES ISLAM IN USA]Arsal responds to Gunner's disbelief
Tue 1/6/1998 1:29 AMIllias Suttargunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Re: CHRISTIAN EMBRACES ISLAM IN USAGunner responds with a one liner
Tue 11/15/2005 11:12 AMIllias Suttararsal latif [achu302@yahoo.com]Re: [Fwd: ** A Very Happy Eid]A christian converted after reading the article "Bible prophesised the Holy Quran"
Tue 1/13/1981 11:10 AMAll members of the mailing listGunner ( Major T. Nasir)Re: LEGAL NOTICE AND ITS REPLYBishop Nasir responds to reply of legal notice sent to Illias Suttar
Wed 11/9/2005 11:37 PMIllias SuttarAhsen MalikLink to Rejoinder to David WoodAhsen Malik has tried to refute common allegations, and has challenged Mubahilla as well
Wed 10/5/2005 12:51 AMBrother GoharIllias SuttarRe: Your website: Can Ahmedis AnswerResponse to Brother Gohar's mail by Illias Suttar and Ahsen Malik
Fri 9/9/2005 10:07 PMcomments@can-you-answer.comG Shah [ha0187@qmul.ac.uk]Your website: Can Ahmedis AnswerI am a brother from the UK who would like to let you know how useful your can-qadianis-answer challenge was for me personally.
Thu 9/15/2005 12:58 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]FORGED EMAIL ONCE AGAINUnknown addresses being used to send malicious and defamatory mails from Illias Suttar
Sun 9/11/2005 2:27 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarBISHOP TIMOTHEUS OFFER OF HISTORY'S GREAT MUNAZRABishop T. Nasir is challenging "MUNAZRA". Abdullah Sheikh ( ex-pastor) responds to it.
21.08.05Illias Suttar and all members of the mailing listBishop T. Nasir (gunner)Restless Illias SattarBishop responds to contradictory statements by accusing Illias Suttar of twisting his words....
Fri 8/19/2005 11:25 PMBishop T. Nasir and all members of the mailing listIllias SuttarHistory of Bishop Timotheus and The Court.Contradictory statements and actions by Bishop T. Nasir
13.08.05Illias Suttar and all members of the mailing listBishop T. Nasir ( gunner )Re: BISHOP T. NASIR QUOTING FORGED EMAILS.Illias Suttar claims that gunner is quoting forged emails. Gunner responds!
12th August 2005Illias Suttar and all members of the mailing listBishop T. Nasir ( gunner)Mr. Illias, it is you who has sent the mails.First accept my Challenge and tell me if you are coming to Islamabad?
Thu 8/11/2005 8:48 PMBishop T. Nasir and all members of the mailing listIllias SuttarForged Email Address Vs MobahillaIf Illias Suttar has opened this forged email address himself, then Allah will punish Illias Suttar, and if Bishop T. Nasir has....
09.08.05Illias Suttar and all members of the mailing listBishop T. Nasir (gunner)Re: WRITTEN UNCONDITIONAL APOLOGYMr. Illias Sattar, if you are a true Muslim and have some knowledge of Islam, you would not have sought legal help. You would have accepted to face me in "Barhah Maidan". ...
Mon 8/8/2005 7:17 PMAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarWRITTEN UNCONDITIONAL APOLOGYOn 29th July, 2005 in the morning at around 10:30 a.m. the Bishop tendered apology from Gujranwala on the phone to the lawyer in Karachi.
30th June 2005Illias SuttarGunner ( Bishop T. Nasir)Challenge from Bishop T. Nasir The Bishop has, in a desperate face-saving attempt, challenged Illias Suttar to Islamabad in the presence of all government heads, and the condition that whoever loses will instantly commit suicide!
Fri 6/17/2005 10:21AMIllias Suttar & All members of the mailing listMajor T. Nasir ( Gunner)Re: 50 Million Challenge to Bishop T. NasirGunner's response to challenge
Fri 6/17/2005 2:29 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar50 Million Challenge to Bishop T. NasirThe Bishop has falsely accused Illias Suttar. Therefore, Illias Suttar has challenged him to Pak. Rs. 50 million
Sun 5/15/2005 7:17 PMFaizan AhmedIllias SuttarRe: Question regarding death of ChristResponse to a query regarding Jesus ascension/ death. Query also included.
Wed 5/4/2005 12:45 AMGunner ( Bishop T. Nasir)Abdullah Sheikh (ex pastor) challanger of mubahilaFormer pastor(now a muslim) Abdullah Sheikh challenges Bishop Nasir to mubahilla
Fri 4/29/2005 2:59 AMAll members of the mailing listMajor T. NasirFilthy MistriReply to Illias Suttar's letter "Common Factor"
Fri 4/29/2005 1:51 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk] NASIM (AHMEDI) & BISHOP T. NASIR – COMMONFACTORNasim Ahmed is a respected Ahmedi / Qadiani who has not abused me till now unlike Bishop T. Nasir who has used filthy language from the very first day. This is one great difference between them. But there is one common factor:
20-4-05All members of the mailing listMajor T. Nasir (gunner)Re: [Fwd: Munazira or Mubahila on Closed Room WHY???]Gunner refuses to accept
Tue 4/19/2005 12:39 PMMajor T. Nasir (gunner)Abdullah Shaikh [ex_padri@yahoo.com]; Illias Suttar Munazira or Mubahila on Closed Room WHY???Abdullah Sheikh's response to to Gunner's munazra terms.
Mon 4/11/2005 1:05 AMMon 4/11/2005 1:05 AMIllias Suttar[Fwd: Have you accepted my invitation/Respond!!!!]Illias Suttar's response to the invitation to Gujranwala
April 2005comments@can-you-answer.comMajor T. NasirHave you accepted my invitation/Respond!!!!Invitation to Gujranwala
Wed 3/30/2005 4:43 PMAbdullah SheikhMajor T. NasirRe: Is Mistri dead?]Response to invitation for Mubahilla
Thu 3/31/2005 1:14 AMAll members of the mailing listMajor T. NasirRe: "MUQABALA" OR "MUBAHILA"]"Tell Mistri Illias to come out of silence..."
Wed 3/30/2005 1:52 PMMajor T. NasirAbdullah Sheikh"MUQABALA" OR "MUBAHILA"Newly convert Abdullah Sheikh offers Mubahilla to Major T. Nasir (Gunner)
Between 22-25 March 2005Abdullah Shaikh; illias@super.net.pkMajot T. Nasir (gunner)Is Mistri dead?Give up the habit of "asking questions" try to learn "answering questions too".
Fri 3/25/2005 3:51 PMAll members of the mailing listMajor T. NasirAnswr my questions!JAWAB DO WARNA APNA MUN BUND RAKHO.
Fri 3/25/2005 3:51PMAll members of the mailing listMajor T. NasirMistri is dead?Now he thinks that Illias is sending him bulk mail, and dead at the same time?????
Tue 3/22/2005 1:17 PMTue 3/22/2005 1:17 PMAbdullah SheikhT-Nasir is my cousing . Abi NazarThe pastor who converted to Islam says that Gunner(T. Nasir) and Abi Nazar are both his cousins, so Gunner's claim that he doesn't know them is false!
Thu 3/17/2005 1:18 AMNasim Ahmed & all members of the mailing listIllias SuttarRose of the opponentIllias' response to Nasim's objection on making his letter public
Sun 3/13/2005 1:03 PMAll members of the mailing listMajor T. NasirRe: ILLIAS to pay PENALTY Rs.1 LAC within ONE MONTH]It appears that Bishop Nasir was unable to open the attached file!
Sat 3/12/2005 1:46 AMMajor T. NasirSadaf Saboor [SPAM] Re: Talk Sense!Sadaf comments on the style and tone of Gunner's mails
Thu 10/3/2002 10:17 PMAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarILLIAS to pay PENALTY Rs.1 LAC within ONE MONTHReproduced is the original letter from Illias Suttar to Major T. Nasir asking him to challenge Illias Suttar and the muslim ummah
Thu 10/24/2002 12:45 PMAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarCHRISTIAN BIBLE CHALLENGED ARABIC QURAN UNCHALLENGEDDetails about Illias' challenge to Gunner and his inability to either answer or challenge the Quran
Thu 3/10/2005 11:09 PMAll members of the mailing listMajor T. NasirSee what is for you.Bishop T. Nasir responds in his website in the Urdu News section. Chech it out
Thu 3/10/2005 11:55 AMThu 3/10/2005 11:55 AMMajor T. NasirTalk Sense!Bishop doesn't agree with the interview and observations of Bishop Abi Nazir and Padri Samson Rashid
Thu 3/10/2005 12:56 AMThu 3/10/2005 12:56 AMIllias SuttarT-Nasir's own Scholars say Nasir is wrongUrdu article containing interviews...
2004Illias SuttarMajor T. NasirRe: Accept Challenge of Illias SuttarInvitation to Gujranwala and threat
Fri 2/25/2005 2:58 AMIllias SuttarNasim AhmadRe: NASIM & AHSEN DISCUSSION...I don’t agree with you regarding my booklet. I wrote that booklet only for you, no one else...
Sat 2/26/2005 8:49 PMSat 2/26/2005 8:49 PMfaisla khuda ka [faisla@gmail.com]illyasThis person has been sending abusive & threatening mails. Read the last week of Feb & 1st March mails.
Tue 3/1/2005 11:13 PMTue 3/1/2005 11:13 PMAbdullah Sheikh Accept Challenge of Illias SuttarLetter by Abdullah Shaikh to Bishop T. Nasir(gunner)
Tue 1/6/1998 4:05 AMAll members of the mailing listgunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Re: Accept Challenge of Illias Suttar]..read my answer on www.siloampak.org on 2nd March in the evening.
Sat 2/26/2005 12:18 AMSat 2/26/2005 12:18 AMIllias SuttarCONGRATULATIONS TO SOHAIL BAWA & TEAMUrdu news item on a London 'manazra' where the Qadiani 'Murabbi' left before the final verdict
Fri 2/25/2005 2:48 AMIllias SuttarNasim AhmadRe: [Fwd: IF AHMADIS/QADIANIS ACCEPT 2 MIRACLES, WHY DENY THE 3RD???]Man, are you a real person, or some kind of computer program made to badger Ahmadi people? ..
Fri 2/25/2005 4:07 PMAmir Muhammadi; ahsan@amalik.comNasim AhmadRe:When will Prophet Elijah (as) come back to the world?
Fri 2/25/2005 2:53 AMZia Quadri; ahsen@amalik.comNasim AhmadRe:You sound like a Roman emperor who..
Mon 8/4/2003 12:59 AMSultan Qureshi and all other QadianisIllias SuttarIF AHMADIS/QADIANIS ACCEPT 2 MIRACLES, WHY DENY THE 3RD???JESUS GOING ALIVE TO SOME SKIES AND SITTING THERE WITHOUT FOOD SINCE LAST 2000 YEARS. FUNNIEST BELIEF INDEED.
Thu 2/24/2005 1:10 AMNasim Illias SuttarNASIM & AHSEN DISCUSSIONI have a lot of respect for you because in my around 9 meetings with you. I never found you lying.
Fri 2/11/2005 12:18 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarQuestion from Bishop Timotheus NasirBishop finally concedes to going to Court
Sun 2/6/2005 12:34 PMAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarCHALLENGING LIES OF BISHOP TIMOTHEUS ONE AFTER ANOTHER I have many conclusive evidence and proofs of his lies which I am intimating to Bishop T. Nasir, to this discussion group and ...
Sun 1/30/2005 2:38 AMBishop T. Nasir and all members of the mailing list Illias SuttarCHRISTIANS IN SHAME DUE TO BISHOP T. NASIR...Bishop T. Nasir has been lying instead of accepting the truth
Sun 12/12/2004 11:12 PMNasim AhmadIllias SuttarCHALLENGE TO NASIM AHMADNow I offer to Nasim Ahmad that if he can prove my argument wrong, I will pay him Rs. 2 (two) lacs. .....get unanimous judgement against my point from the 2 retired judges OR 5 Murabbis.
Thu 11/25/2004 9:29 PMIllias SuttarNasim AhmadRe: Dear Bishop T. Nasir & Nasim Ahmed (Ahmedi)...you seem to be firing your views at Christianity behind the back of our jamaat.
Fri 11/19/2004 11:39 PMAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarDear Bishop T. Nasir & Nasim Ahmed (Ahmedi)Bishop T. Nasir has accused me of insulting St. Paul......
November 15, 2004 12:37 PMIllias SuttarNasim AhmadFwd: PLEASE CHANGE ATLEAST THIS PART OF YOUR FAITHReply to Illias Suttar
Sat 11/6/2004 7:16 PMNasim AhmedIllias SuttarPLEASE CHANGE ATLEAST THIS PART OF YOUR FAITH9 years ago on 4/10/1995 in response to your answer I gave you my first reply titled “Reply to Friend Nasim Ahmed”.
Fri, 22 Oct 2004 05:17:29 -0700 (PDT)Illias Suttar Nasim AhmadRe: [Fwd: NASIM AHMED CLARIFIES] - Thank you Illias, God bless youI've got a lot of regard for your energy and drive when it comes to tackling controversial issues - such as our beliefs.
2004Major T. Nasir (Christian) with lots of loveIllias SuttarMy AddressI love to feel you as a good friend and will be delighted if you feel the same way for me.
Sunday, August 29, 2004 8:13 AMillias@super.net.pk mateen khalid [mateenkhalid@hotmail.com]RE: [Fwd: T. NASIR'S INVITATION TO GUJRANWALA ACCEPTED]impressive and effective message
Monday, September 27, 2004 12:34 PMIllias Suttarnasim ahmad [nasimite@yahoo.com]Re: NASIM AHMED (AHMEDI) CAN CLARIFY HIS STATEMENTIndeed I would like to clarify my statement. It wouldn't be fair to say that Mubashir ....
Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:42 PMIllias SuttarAhsen Malik [ahsen@amalik.com]Re: The Truth About AhmadiyyatFormer Ahmadi Ahsen Malik speaks of his journey to Islam
Monday, October 04, 2004 11:53 PMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]NASIM AHMED CLARIFIESNasim Ahmed clarifies the confusion, and subsequent accusations..
Sunday, September 19, 2004 11:48 PMSunday, September 19, 2004 11:48 PM Illias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]BISHOP'S MAGAZINE MAKES PADRI A PURE MUSLIMThe Holy Quran was popularly believed to contain 6666 verses. The number 666 according to the Christian Bible ( Revelation 13:1to18 ) relates to the Satanic Beast
September 10, 2004 10:40PMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]IS THE BISHOP AGAINST SERIOUS THINKING ?????Bishop T. Nasir's strange response
11-05-03Illias SuttarManzoor Ahmed Chinioti MubahillaManzoor Ahmed Chinioti congratulates on outcome of Mubahilla
Saturday, January 11, 2003 12:09 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]Holy Quran of 10 A.M. abrogated by Torah at 12 Noon??????????????You have ADMITTED that the concept of cursed death is a funny belief.
undatedAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarOPPOSITE OPINIONSYou are trying your best to accuse me of “Tauheen-e-Risalat”.
undatedNaeem KhanIllias SuttarDr. Rashid, Irshad, Yousuf LudhianviYou have included besides me only four (4) names in the list of “Tauheen-e-Risalat” namely....
20-Apr-03Sultan QureishiIllias SuttarLive TV challenge acceptedLive TV broadcast accepted
Monday, April 07, 2003 9:59 AMSultan Qureshi Illias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]Your challenge is accepted.Your challenge is accepted. Please give names of the jury soon. In the presence of the Ph. D. Jury, we will discuss...
Monday, March 24, 2003 8:20 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]MIRZA GHLAM AHMED, SULTAN QURESHI & 100 BILLION GALAXIES..when we engage in religious discussions, we must remember that we are engaged in discussing spiritual matters that have THEIR ORIGIN in the Divine Being who made the 100 billion galaxies, each with 100 billion stars
Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:03 PMWednesday, March 19, 2003 8:03 PMMohd. Anwar Khattak REMINDER TO SULTAN QURESHI .. ACCEPT THE JURYI was an Ahmadi / Qadiani for five years, but about four years ago I left Ahmadiat / Qadianiat. During the period of ....
Monday, March 10, 2003 10:23 AMAll members of the mailing list Illias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]WHY JURY ? FUZAIL’S RESPECT FOR LOGICSuch wilD argumentS of Sultan Qureshi only necessitates the presence of jury so that a LINE of control can exist between the presence of logic and absence of logic.
Friday, February 28, 2003 9:11 AMAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]WHEN CANDLES COST MORE THAN THE CAKE...and the issue of grave becomes a grave issue, ...
12-Feb-03Sultan QureishiIllias SuttarIllias accepts Qureishi's challengeJesus went upto skies bodily alive and is sitting without food ...
Friday, February 07, 2003 8:57 AMAll members of the mailing listHanif Motiwala [hanifmtw@super.net.pk]METAPHORIC ISSA…………CHALLENGEWe challenge all Ahmadis / Qadianis to put a single hadith in the words of our prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) saying that “metaphor” Issa Masih Ibn Marium (A.S) will come in future”.
22-Jan-03Sultan QureishiIllias SuttarConclusive proof... Christian Bibles changed !!
Tuesday, January 21, 2003 12:26 AMSultan QureshiHanif MotiwalaFishing in the desertYou Pretend to Answer, but your reply is no reply....
undatedAll members of the mailing listHanif Motiwala [hanifmtw@super.net.pk]Result of Mubahila: liar dies in the life-time of truthfulMubahila took place on 3-6-1999 between Qadiani Moorabi Mohd. Usman Shahid and Illias Suttar in written agreement with three witnesses of each side....
7-Jan-03Sultan QureshiIllias SuttarTorah was revealed after the death of the PharoahAnyone who is hanged on a tree is under God's Curse ??
undatedSaira NargisIllias SuttarRe: Reply to the challengeIllias Suttar responds to Saira Nargis' reply to the challenging article
undatedSaira NargisHanif MotiwalaRe: Reply to the challengeHanif Motiwala responds to the debate with very important points
undatedAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarIllias Suttar's standpointA detailed letter of Illias Suttar's standpoint to Naeem Khan (Urdu image)
01-Jan-03All members of the mailing listIllias SuttarAllah blesses my challenge with successSultan Qurieshi admits the verse is not found in the Torah ....
undatedAll members of the mailing listIllias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]NEITHER DELAY, NOR ANSWERMAJOR T. NASIR FAILS TO DEFEND CHRISTIANITY
undatedAsadullah NizamiIllias SuttarSEND ME 1 KG SWEETSFor a long time members of your team objected to my article. Finally your members AGREED with MY POINT that the concept of Curse was a Christian invention.
undatedAll members of the mailing listSaira NargisReply to the challengeReply to “Can Ahmadis/Qadianis Answer?” by well known ahmadi Saira Nargis
undatedAll members of the mailing listIllias SuttarBook: Shaitan ke ChaileyHadi Ali Chaudhary has accepted as true and right my challenging point atleast 8 times
undatedDr. Shaikh Khurshid Ahmed Jamia AhlehadithAppreciating Can Qadianis AnswerLetter of Appreciation from Madrassah (Urdu image)
undatedIllias SuttarAbul Ahtesham QariCan Qadianis AnswerLetter appreciating the article Can Qadianis Answer (Urdu mage)
Friday, November 29, 2002 11:39 PMAll members of the mailing list Illias Suttar [illias@super.net.pk]YOUR QUOTABLE QUOTE ???????Dear Qureshi, DID YOU READ my challenging article BEFORE you replied?
Monday, November 25, 2002 9:39 PMIllias Suttar Sultan Qureshi [sultan@webs.com.pk]RE: INVERTED COMMAS IN THE BIBLE ? ? ? ? ?St. Paul said: " " for the scripture says, "anyone who is hanged on a tree is under God's curse " " (Galatians 3/13).
10-Aug-02Major T. NasirIllias SuttarMost easy question to Christianity in two thousand yearsAnswer my question first
After Jul-02Major T. NasirIllias SuttarWhere is the verseIn the absence of an answer, Major T. Nasir resorts to calling names.
18-Jul-02Aleem JavedIllias SuttarReminderYou agreed to answer my points in April, ...
May 2002EZ BoardIllias SuttarCalendar or no CalendarMirza Ghulam Ahmed is proved wrong EVEN WITHOUT the help of calendar.
20-Apr-02Aleem JavedIllias SuttarFaith of present Christianity is wrongDeath on Cross was not under God's curse
14th February, 2002All members of the mailing listIllias SuttarSomebody’s Victory I think the discussion on this thread should now be concluded and after declaring SOMEBODY’S VICTORY in the Mubahila Challenge, this thread should be closed......
13-Jan-02Sultan QureshiIllias SuttarMy challenge was to show...Jewish and Christian Torah compared
13-Jan-02Sultan QureishiIllias SuttarI challenge your clear lieSultan Qureishi claims 5 lacs
undatedDawood Majoka (Forum Moderator) Illias SuttarSeed SowingIn your posts 1496 dated 25th May 2002 (in the ez board) you have said as follows:- " What HMGA a.s. has NOT said: That the seed were sown by Paul after the death of Isa a.s....
undatedAsadullah Nizami Illias SuttarREAL FOLLOWERS UNAFFECTED BY PAUL ? ?Ahmadis / Qadianis DISAGREE amongst themselves
2002Illias SuttarBashir Ahmed Shah Jamali NaqshbandiAppreciationA Letter from Bashir Ahmed Shah Jamali Naqshbandi
22-11-2001Illias SuttarMateen Khalidresponse on mentioning Illias Suttar's articleMateen Khalid visits the site www.paltalk.com, and enters Ahmedi / Qadiani conference room "Love for all, hate for none" and tells about the response on mentioning Illias Suttar's article
10-10-2001Illias SuttarMateen KhalidSaut-ul-IslamLetter appreciating magazine Saut-ul-Islam (Urdu image)
10-Sep-0110-Sep-01Illias SuttarPolitics in religionCursed Death
Monday, September 10, 2001 12:10 AMRaven EyeIllias SuttarCURSE IS NOT ALWAYS DEATH ACCORDING TO HOLY QURANGod's curse doesn't mean death eg. Satan
Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:39:02 -0600 (CST)qadianism@egroups.com irshad (qadianism) Contradictions in Mirza Ghulam’s ClaimsSince several Qadianis have stated that they are willing to discuss any issue with muslims, I wonder if they feel obligated to explain this particular issue, based on clear evidence.
Sat, 01 Aug 1998 16:05:45 -0400 Sat, 01 Aug 1998 16:05:45 -0400 imam(imam@irshad.org) Can Qadianis/Ahmadis Answer?Idara Dawat-o-Irshad, USA Inc. thanks for publishing permission
Wed, 11 Feb 1998All members of the mailing listLetter from Webmaster (irshad.org)AppreciationWebmaster of Irshad.org appreciates the efforts
Sunday, January 18, 1998 7:31 PMSunday, January 18, 1998 7:31 PMwebmaster irshad@irshad.orgRe: From Dr. Shaheeruddin Wishes to post article on website
21.12.02 or laterIllias Suttar gunner [gunner@brain.net.pk]Re: JOINT STRUGGLE BY QADIANIS AND CHRISTIANS (SHUT UP EDIOT!)I shall come to Karachi and thrash you.
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