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How do those who consider the Koran infallible deal with its claim that man will never go to the moon?

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KTRON: I fully address the allegation that the Bible is mistaken on its statements about rabbits chewing cud and the number of legs of a grasshopper. Both allegations are absurd for anyone who understand Hebrew language and basic biology. The first was address by Linnaeus who nearly classified rabbits as ruminants because of their chewing their droppings in a behavior known as refection. And ancient Hebrews were obviously VERY familiar with grasshoppers and it is silly to think they wouldn't be. If you understand basic linguistics, you would know that the Hebrews consider the grasshopper as having four legs plus a pair of flight-assisting "jumper appendages." There is no rule that all languages must have one-to-one "mapping " of nouns. So your claims are based on biological and linguistic ignorance. This is also an example of how Bible skeptic website perpetuate myths which were long ago debunked by evidence.

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MEGHAN: I believe the passage is Surah 55:33. I've talked with former Moslems who left that faith and told me that the moon landing was among their reasons for finally rejecting the Koran. Yet, another passage seems to PREDICT the moon landing -- so they considered this an example of the Koran's contradiction of itself.

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DIVER DOWN: I don't understand how your answer addresses the question. Are you saying that the Holocaust is refuted in the Koran itself?

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KTRON: I challenge you to defend your claim by supplementing your answer. Indeed, I DEFY you and know that you cannot refute my claim about rabbits and grasshoppers.

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KTRON: Predictable again. (All bluster. No facts. The pattern never fails. For those keeping score at home, the count is 0 for 6.)

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18- And the Moon when it is full
19- You will surely ride from stage to stage
20- So, why do they not believe?
84-The Splitting, 18-20

The moon is associated in our minds with beautiful scenes and romantic landscapes. For those who use the lunar calendar, it is a precision calculator. The ebb and tide it causes have always been a mystery for men. It is used to symbolize mathematics, astronomy, art and romanticism.

Throughout history the moon has been the symbol of the unattainable. All these features also existed at the time of the Prophet.

For 1400 years the meaning of the above quoted verses remained unraveled. In the Quran, the conjunction 鈥渁nd鈥 (wa) is frequently used to stress a point; sometimes it is rendered in English by the preposition 鈥渂y鈥 when making serious promises, taking an oath or calling someone to witness. Commentators dealt differently with the 鈥渞ide from stage to stage.鈥 The reason was the inaccessibility of the moon at the time. Going to the moon was beyond imagination.


This 鈥渞iding from stage to stage鈥 had the association for some of spiritual ascension, symbolizing the passage from this world to the other world, the stages of development of man from an embryo to adolescence and senescence. Yet, the verse foresees that human beings will pass from stage to stage in the future. Spiritual ascension and man鈥檚 biological development were nothing new. Therefore, I am of the opinion that these interpretations of the past do not reflect reality. The context of the verse connotes the anticipation that a particular phenomenon will take place in the future and the verse questions the reason why the people do not believe when this event takes place. The Arabic word 鈥渢abaq鈥 (stage) also mentioned in the sura 67, 3rd verse, and the sura 71, 15th verse, refers not to spiritual, but concrete things. The use of the word 鈥渞ide鈥 clearly connotes a journey.

Having thus explained the 19th verse in this fashion, the thing that our attention is drawn to, the moon in the 18th verse, supports the idea that 鈥渞iding from stage to stage鈥 is done by means of a shuttle from the earth to the moon.
WHY DO THEY NOT BELIEVE?
The Russian spacecraft Luna 2 was the first probe to hit the moon (September 12, 1959), and Luna 3 took the first photographs of the far side of the moon. But the most important event was the landing on the moon on July, 21, 1969 by Neil Armstrong and his companions aboard the Apollo 11. The scene of landing on the blurred TV screen was surely one of the most spectacular events in human history.

What had been thought impossible had come true. There were positivists, however, who pointed to this event as a scientific achievement and used it as an argument against religion. Certain bigoted scholars of Islam contended that it was a lie that there had been such an event, and that anybody who claimed that man was on the moon would be cursed.

The miraculous prediction had come true, showing once again God鈥檚 art and power. Photographs taken from the moon reflect once more the splendor of God鈥檚 design. The mass of the moon, the moon鈥檚 distance from the earth point to God鈥檚 splendid design. Had the mass of the moon been larger or had the moon been nearer the earth, the continents would be flooded following the tide, rendering our survival impossible.

Verse 20 that comes after verses 18 & 19 in which the journey to the moon is predicted, which reads: 鈥淪o, why do they not believe?鈥 may refer to the unbelievers and atheists who remained blind to God鈥檚 splendor and wisdom, considering this a victory of science over religion. This misconception accounts for the misinterpretation of God鈥檚 ways, namely the fact that science is nothing but the entirety of rules He infused into matter. They labor under the delusion that science and religion vie for supremacy. The origin of science and religion is God. Two things that emanate from God cannot be contradictory. Any contradiction may have been due either to scientific errors or to bigoted theologians who dared to make announcements in the name of God. Verse 21, coming after the verses that I have analyzed in this section, is as follows:

21- And when the Quran is read to them, they do not fall prostrate.
84-The Splitting, 21

THE MOON HAS SPLIT
1- The Hour has come closer and the moon has split (shaqqa).
54-The Moon, 1

There is another indication in the Quran in the above verse referring to the landing on the moon. In order to have a better insight into this, let us dwell on the connotation of the Arabic word 鈥渟haqqa鈥 which, among its multifarious meanings, signifies 鈥渞ending asunder,鈥 鈥渟plitting,鈥 鈥渇issuring;鈥 it may also signify plowing the soil.

25- We pour forth water in abundance.
26- And We split (shaqqa) the earth in fragments.
80-He Frowned, 25-26

As we see, to describe the fissures made by water on the earth鈥檚 soil, the same word 鈥渟haqqa鈥 is used. One of the most important events that occasioned man鈥檚 visit to th

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  • dawahuk@live.co.uk by dawahuk@...
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    The Quran is infallible today, and has been for the last 1400+ years, and will always be infallible.

    ''Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely, have found therein contradictions in abundance).''

    Now to answer your Question we need to take a closer look at the verse:

    ''O assembly of Jinn and men! If you are able to pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, then pass beyond (them)! But you will never be able to pass them, except with authority (from Allah)!)''
    (Quran 55: 33)

    Now lets see what this verse means...

    meaning, `you will never be able to escape Allah's orders and decrees, because it encompasses you. You will never be able to avoid or avert His rule and judgement over you, you are surrounded by it wherever you may be.'

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  • ktron - respect my atheati! by ktron - respect my atheati!
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    The same way Christians deal with the Bible stating that insects only have four legs and that rabbits chew cud.

    EDIT: Dude, unclench a little, okay? Sheesh, I was being facetious.
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  • Meghan W by Meghan W
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    Sorry, I can't answer your question, but I'm curious where this might be found in the Koran. Can you show the reference?
  • diver down by diver down
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    kinda the same way some don't believe the holocaust ever happened
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