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X- Rated Porn in the Bible?

 

Here we will answer the bogus claims made by Osama Abdullah on his site about Pornography in the Bible. His excerpts are in Green.

 

The Bible has some really weird things in it that you would really be ashamed to even share with your own little kids!  It teaches you to fantasize about women's breasts and vaginas.  It also teaches you to sleep with your own sister!  Read all of the verses below.

 

Let us look at Ezekiel 23:20 "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals [penises] were like those of donkeys and whose emission [the amount of semen output] was like that of horses."  The Bible here is praising the lovers by comparing the size of their penises with the donkeys' and the power and speed that the semen come out with that of horses'.

 

When the reader goes and reads this passage of scripture we see that the Bible isn’t praising the lovers nor comparing how fast semen comes out of horses.  Mr. Osama is good at making accusations without posting context from the Bible.  The word for “genitals” translated by the NIV, is BASAR, which means flesh!  This word is used for flesh 99% of the time.  The word for genitals in Hebrew is “every meen”.  You can check this out for yourself in a Hebrew dictionary.  If you read from Ezekiel 23:19-22—

19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt.

20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled. [1]

22 "Therefore, Oholibah, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will stir up your lovers against you, those you turned away from in disgust, and I will bring them against you from every side--

1.21 Syriac (see also verse 3); Hebrew caressed because of your young breasts

 

Note: I used the NIV since Osama loves this bible. The word “genitals” is here was put there because the translators figured the emission of semen relayed more to that. However this same translation, which is based on the Hebrew bible just like any other translation. IN Hebrew genitals isn’t present so Osama is attacking Christianity from a paraphrased translation of the Bible.  No scholar would claim that the NIV is the best and most accurate translation of the Hebrew text.  We see that Oholibah was a prostitute, something Osama didn’t mention, and that in vs. 22 Yahweh is going to punish her for her wickedness.  I don’t know how it’s porn when we see how Yahweh is going to punish a prostitute.  Mr. Osama must condone prostitution of women, which explains a link on his site where you find wives like they are property--http://www.answering-christianity.com/personal.htm.  The Bible clearly shows us that this promiscuous woman would be judged.

 

Let us look at Genesis 38:9 "But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother."   Why should the Bible picture for us the sexual experience that Onan was having?  Is this appropriate?

 

This is very appropriate because it lets us know how to investigate adultery.  By looking at this verse we see how a man can try to get away with adultery by not allowing the woman to get pregnant.  However what Osama doesn’t post is the very next verse of Genesis 38:10-

 

What he did was wicked in the LORD's sight; so he put him to death also.

 

Mr. Osama tries to promote the idea of Porn in the Bible but he never shows scriptures like these!!! He is such a liar.  Yahweh himself killed Onan, which lets us know clear and well how much he hates sin.  Since Osama didn’t post Genesis 38:10 the very next verse, he must obviously enjoy this, if he doesn’t then he should’ve posted how Yahweh punished Onan.

 

Checkout this contradiction:  In Genesis 34:1-2, Shechem raped Dinah, Jacob's daughter.  Deuteronomy 22:28-30 clearly states that if a man rapes a single virgin girl, then she must become his wife and they can't get divorced forever.  We read in Genesis 34:25-31 that Jacob's sons killed the rapist (Shechem) and his tribe.  Jacob did not show any objection at all toward violating GOD's laws.  He only showed objection because he feared revenge from the other related tribes.  The two sons claimed that they did that because they felt their sister was treated like a prostitute by the rape act.  It just amazes me that even the Bible's Prophets don't obey its laws!!.

 

This isn’t a contradiction because Genesis occurred long before Deuteronomy.  How could Jacob disobey a law that was given almost 1000 years later?  Jacob lived before Joseph, the Hebrew captives, Moses and Joshua.  The only way Jacob would know about this was to build a time Machine and then travel into the future!!!  Muslims accept this silly argument because they don’t know the history of the Bible, much like Osama.

 

Let us look at Genesis 38:15-16 "When Judah saw her, he thought she was a prostitute, for she had covered her face.  Not realizing that she was his daughter-in-law, he went over to her by the roadside and said, 'Come now, let me sleep with you.'"  Judah is supposed to be one of the Bible's holy figures.  Yet, he quickly would sleep with a prostitute.  Talk about teaching the kids good morals right from the Bible.

 

Mr. Osama is using the Islamic fallacy of “every prophet is perfect”.  Judah was a normal fallible man who was susceptible to sin also.  I notice that Osama didn’t mention anything about Muhammad marrying and sleeping with his daughter-in-law Zaid.  Also read vs. 25-26—

 

25 As she was being brought out, she sent a message to her father-in-law. "I am pregnant by the man who owns these," she said. And she added, "See if you recognize whose seal and cord and staff these are."

26 Judah recognized them and said, "She is more righteous than I, since I wouldn't give her to my son Shelah." And he did not sleep with her again.

 

In Christianity and Islam, we see that God forgives sin.  Judah admitted with sorrow that she was more righteous than him!  It takes a good role model to admit mistakes and fly right!  Of course Muhammad never did this, which shows just how wimpy he is.

 

More on sex and rape:  In Genesis 39:7-23, the wife of Joseph's master tries to get Joseph to go to bed with her. He refuses, and flees leaving his "garment in her hand." She claims that Joseph tried to rape her, and Joseph ends up imprisoned.

 

What in the world is wrong with this?  This is letting you know how Joseph resisted this act and was imprisoned falsely for this matter.  This would be a good lesson to teach your kids on how faith in God might get you unfairly punished but greatly rewarded.  Muhammad felt like it was important so he put it in the Quran!! Just read Surah 12.  I guess this must be pornography in the Quran too!!!  In fact the illiterate, hallucinogenic prophet of Allah seems to not even know how much Joseph was sold for in this Surah!!!

 

Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids].  And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."  Take the virgin women and rape them.

 

The Bible doesn’t tell you to rape the women.  Another lie, by Bible neophyte Osama.  If you read Numbers 31:16, you see that these people caused God’s people to commit sins against the sovereign Yahweh.  Through war, God was bringing judgment upon the unbelievers.  It’s funny how Osama tries to use this since we can easily point out tons of verses that tell people to kill the unbeliever in the Quran.  My dear reader, a hypocrite can’t judge the Bible especially since his prophet commanded his believers to kill based on hi own merits compared to Moses who followed God.

 

Even GOD enjoys raping virgin women in Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

 

It doesn’t say anywhere in these scriptures that God enjoyed raping women, another reason why Osama lies by posting out of context.  If Osama knew anything about the Bible he would’ve known that these 32 people weren’t used in a sexual fashion but would be dedicated to God, like Samuel.

 

Let us look at Deuteronomy 28:15,30 "However, if you do not obey the LORD your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you......You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and ravish her."  Too much open sexuality in the Bible, even in GOD's threats to you for not following His commands to make you marry a "used woman".

 

I just don’t believe that Osama would embarrass himself with posting this.  In Deuteronomy 28:15, it talks about how God curses people for not following his commandments not sex.—

 

15 However, if you do not obey the LORD your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:

 

The last mention of a curse ends in vs. 20!!!!  Ten verses before vs. 30!!!—

20 The LORD will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him.

 

Osama lies about vs. 30 too since if the reader starts at vs. 24, they would see that God is bringing judgment on the nation and not a person who’s having sexual relationships with is wife.  Osama also stops in the middle of vs. 30.  If you read the rest you see that after the wife is taken the house built wouldn’t be lived in. 

 

Let us look at Proverbs 5:19 "A loving doe, a graceful deer, may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be captivated by her love (making)."  Again, more sexual fantasies in the Bible.

 

Again another blatant lie from the master of lies.  If you read the very next verse you will clearly see this message –“Why be captivated, my son, by an adulteress?”  Hmm very interesting because we don’t see Solomon promoting a sexual fantasy as Osama claims.  Read this passage in context:

 

18 May your fountain be blessed, and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.

19 A loving doe, a graceful deer-- may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be captivated by her love.

20 Why be captivated, my son, by an adulteress? Why embrace the bosom of another man's wife?

21 For a man's ways are in full view of the LORD, and he examines all his paths.

22 The evil deeds of a wicked man ensnare him; the cords of his sin hold him fast.

23 He will die for lack of discipline, led astray by his own great folly.

 

We clearly see that this deed was evil and that Solomon clearly told his son that he will die if he is led away by his lustful folly.  This would be a good passage to show your kid, to keep them out of sexual danger.  Mr. Osama, why no context with this verse?  Reason why my dear reader is because Osama must post out of context to make Islam look good.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 1:2-4 "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth-- for your love is more delightful than wine. Pleasing is the fragrance of your perfumes; your name is like perfume poured out. No wonder the maidens love you!  Take me away with you--let us hurry! Let the king bring me into his chambers. We rejoice and delight in you; we will praise your love more than wine. How right they are to adore you! "  I don't think this would be appropriate for a kid under 18 to read.  Also, I don't think it is appropriate to have such open sexuality in a divine book anyway.

 

Mr. Osama who made you God?  You see my dear reader Osama writes these papers to express his views on what he thinks is appropriated.

 

Life In Paradise

 

The Quran teaches that men will be granted access to a paradise that is purely carnal:

 

As to the righteous, they will be in gardens and in happiness...(to them will be said,) "Eat and drink ye with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." They will recline (with ease) on thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them (in the original: marry them) to companions with beautiful, big and lustrous eyes... And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they desire. S. 52:17, 19, 20, 22 (see also 4:57; 76:12-22; 55:54-56; 47:15)

 

Even more astonishing is this description:

 

"Surely for the godfearing awaits a place of security, gardens and vineyards, and maidens of swelling breasts (kawa'eb), like of age, and a cup overflowing." S. 78:33 Arberry (see also Dawood, Rodwell)

 

Ibn Kathir, one of Islam's premiere commentators, notes:

 

"Kawa'eb" - "swelling and firm, not sagging." (Quoted in Women in Islam, p. 30)

 

To imagine that God would reveal such a verse, wherein he would actually say that in paradise one will find women who literally have firm breasts is incredulous.

 

The idea of having sexual relations in Paradise has led some Muslims to interpret these passages metaphorically. This in turn has prompted the assumption that the description is merely a poetic attempt to describe that which is indescribable.

 

Unfortunately for these scholars, Muhammad will not allow for such an interpretation. In Sahi Muslim, no. 6793 and 6794, we are told:

 

"In Paradise...every person would have two wives (so beautiful) that the marrow of their shanks would glimmer beneath the flesh and there would be none without a wife in Paradise."

 

Notice, every person, which also includes the women!!!! That is lesbianism in Allah’s Paradise.

 

According to Ibn Kathir's commentary on S. 56:35-37, a Muslim will be given seventy specially created females with two of his earthly wives, for a total of seventy-two maidens in Paradise.

 

In Mishkat Al-Masabih, Muhammad indicates: "The believer will be given such and such strength in Paradise for sexual intercourse. It was questioned: O prophet of Allah! Can he do that? He said: 'He will be given the strength of one hundred persons.'" (Bk. IV, chp. XLII, Hadith no. 24; transmitted by Tirmizi who classified this Hadith as sound)

 

Even more amazing is this statement from Muhammad:

 

"The Prophet was asked: 'Do we have sex in Paradise?' He answered: 'Yes, by him who holds my soul in his hand, and it will be done dahman, dahman. And when it is finished she will return pure and virgin again.'" (Ibn Kathir's commentary on S. 56:35-37)

 

Kathir indicates that the word dahman means intercourse done with such shove and disturbance. (Ibid.)

 

To say that this is incredulous would be a wild understatement!

 

Christ's position in regards to sexual activity in paradise is clearly seen in the following reference:

 

"Jesus said to them (the Jews), 'The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, but those who are accounted worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.'" Luke 20:34-36

 

This is Islam at it’s best.  Free for all sex with women while the women get nothing!!!  Why don’t you mention this to your reader Osama?  Now lets look at Song of Solomon 1:2-4-

 

2 Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth-- for your love is more delightful than wine.

3 Pleasing is the fragrance of your perfumes; your name is like perfume poured out. No wonder the maidens love you!

4 Take me away with you--let us hurry! Let the king bring me into his chambers. We rejoice and delight in you [1]; we will praise your love more than wine. How right they are to adore you!

1. 4 The Hebrew is masculine singular.

 

What Osama doesn’t mention to the reader is that Solomon was saying this to his wife!!!  From what I can remember, every person on this planet, except Christ, came as a result of sexual intercourse.  Maybe Osama is a test tube baby!!!  “Primarily on the basis of the gender of the Hebrew pronouns used, male and female speakers are indicated in the margins by the captions LOVER AND BELOVED, respectively.” (Kolenberger III, John, The Interlinear NIV Hebrew- English Old Testament, pg. 591).  These terms were used for husbands and wives!  What’s wrong with sex between a husband and wife?  Nothing, since Muhammad even went to Hajj Allah to ask for permission to marry extra ones!!!  Of course we don’t see any mention of this either.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs1:7 "Tell me, you whom I love, where you graze your flock and where you rest your sheep at midday. Why should I be like a veiled woman beside the flocks of your friends?"   Why should a woman cover up?  wouldn't this contradict 1Corinthians 11:13: "Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?"

 

This doesn’t contradict I Corinthians 11:13.  Read I Corinthians 11:13-16-

13 Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?

14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him,

15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering.

16 If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice--nor do the churches of God.

 

This is talking about hair while Song of Solomon is talking about A VIEL!!!  Since when is hair the same as a veil?  I guess all the Muslims that wear the veils on their faces (the women) must be wearing hair!  Are they Osama? If we take your logic then this must be the case.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 1:13 "My lover is to me a sachet of myrrh resting between my breasts." 

 

The lover was Solomon who was resting between is wife’s breast, much like Osama’s prophet, Muhammad did after he got through raping the 9 year old Aisha!!!  Once again sex between a man and his wife is beautiful.  This is something Osama hates since the Quran in Surah 4 says to beat the living daylights out of your wife instead of loving her.  Now you know why Islam is popular among men in prison, particularly rapists.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 1:16 "How handsome you are, my lover! Oh (ooooh), how charming! And our bed [in love making] is verdant"

 

This is very charming, what’s wrong with complimenting your husband?  I guess Osama’s wife or girlfriend curses at him and calls him ugly!!!  That must be the case since I find it strange that he hates women complimenting their husbands.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 2:6 "His left arm is under my head, and his right arm embraces me [Feeling her entire body?]."

 

Of course he is feeling her entire body, but what this wasn’t sex.  Read Song of Solomon 2:4-6-

 

          4 He has taken me to the banquet hall, and his banner over me is love.

          5 Strengthen me with raisins, refresh me with apples, for I am faint with love.

          6 His left arm is under my head, and his right arm embraces me.

 

He is embracing his wife while taking her to eat at the banquet hall!!!  This is very  beautiful, unlike forcing your wife to look like Darth Vader with the veil of Islam, as well as beating her like a character off of Mortal Kombat!

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 3:4 "Scarcely had I passed them when I found the one my heart loves. I held him and would not let him go till I had brought him to my mother's house, to the room of the one who conceived me [and we made love]."  So in other words, she was not married to him, and when she found him, she took him back to her bedroom to have illegal sex with him.  If she were married to him, she wouldn't take him to her "mother's house".  She would take him to their house.

 

This is unbelievable!  Osama inserts the words “and we made love” to get the reader to believe his argument.  This is a very blatant lie.  “We made love” isn’t in any bible on Earth.  Also the Song of Solomon was written for his wife.  If we take Osama’s logic on this, how could Solomon say this before they were married when the events took place after they were married?  Also people who get married go and visit their mothers all the time.  Since Muslim men had so many wives, the kids probably didn’t know who their mother was.  Is this your problem Osama?  If it is I’ll pray for you to have you delivered from this great fiasco started by the illiterate prophet of Hajj Allah.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 3:10 "Its posts he made of silver, its base of gold. Its seat was upholstered with purple, its interior lovingly inlaid by the daughters of Jerusalem [to sleep with all of them]."  What kind of a religion is Christianity that preaches such sexual values that teaches young men to spend all of their time and effort to try to impress all of the girls in their town so they can end in bed with them?

 

Look again dear reader, at the words “to sleep with all of them”.  How can Osama talk about Pornography when the words like these aren’t even present in any bible on earth!  He added them purposely to make the reader think that Solomon was talking about sleeping with all the women of Jerusalem.  Osama then attacks Christian values by claiming that young men spend all their time trying to impress women to sleep with them.  Obviously this can easily be refuted when we read vs. 3:9-11-

 

9 King Solomon made for himself the carriage; he made it of wood from Lebanon.

10 Its posts he made of silver, its base of gold. Its seat was upholstered with purple, its interior lovingly inlaid by [1] the daughters of Jerusalem.

11 Come out, you daughters of Zion, and look at King Solomon wearing the crown, the crown with which his mother crowned him on the day of his wedding, the day his heart rejoiced.

1. 10 Or its inlaid interior a gift of love from

 

Hmm, very interesting, we see that Solomon’s posts of his carriage was LOOKED upon by the daughters of Jerusalem and then the scriptures tell us he is wearing his crown ON HIS WEDDING DAY!  Solomon was going to meet his wife, something Osama didn’t want us to know.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:5 "Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies." 

 

Read vs. 4:1-7-

 

1 How beautiful you are, my darling! Oh, how beautiful! Your eyes behind your veil are doves. Your hair is like a flock of goats descending from Mount Gilead.

2 Your teeth are like a flock of sheep just shorn, coming up from the washing. Each has its twin; not one of them is alone.

3 Your lips are like a scarlet ribbon; your mouth is lovely. Your temples behind your veil are like the halves of a pomegranate.

4 Your neck is like the tower of David, built with elegance; on it hang a thousand shields, all of them shields of warriors.

5 Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies.

6 Until the day breaks and the shadows flee, I will go to the mountain of myrrh and to the hill of incense.

7 All beautiful you are, my darling; there is no flaw in you.

 

Notice how Osama doesn’t post any content.  Solomon was expressing his natural love and affection for his wife.  Something Osama can’t understand due to the fact that Islam requires you to beat your wife and then force her to veil herself like Darth Vader on Star Wars.  Seems like the empire or “Islamic empire” has struck back. Much like Muslim men must struck their wives in obedience to the Quran in Surah 4.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:9 "You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace."   Fantasizing about his sister? at least he shows in this verse that he would.

 

It’s hard to imagine that Osama thinks that Solomon’s wife is his biological sister, since if you read it in context you find out that Solomon’s wife wasn’t related to him at all.  Even the Quran uses terms like “Sister of Aaron” and “Brother of Hud”.  Now if we use Osama’s logic in these cases, then all of these tribes that followed Hajj Allah committed incest!  For anybody who has sense and knows about the Near East (something Osama doesn’t) knows that sister or brother could refer to a female or male who isn’t related to the person.  Even Osama called fellow Muslims brother XXX, so this cheap accusation just won’t work.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:10 "How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love [in bed] than wine, and the fragrance of your perfume than any spice!"   Making love to his own sister?

 

Notice again that the words “in bed” isn’t present in any bible on earth.  Solomon here is talking about his love for his wife again and not their experiences in bed.  Osama then uses the phony words “in bed” to build a argument about Solomon having sex with his sister.  We’ve already discussed the “sister” deal and now lets look at this matter.  Osama tries to paint the idea of “having” sex with his sister, etc” but dear reader, the only book that you would first have learned about incest being wrong is the bible!!!  Osama wouldn’t even know if incest was wrong if it wasn’t from the bible, which he is trying to discredit.  This is hilarious because the Quran says nothing against incest which leads us to believe that anything goes with the religion of Hajj Allah.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 4:12 "You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride; you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain."

 

We’ve discussed earlier about sister now lets look at something.  Osama is good at picking and adding to verses but it’s intriguing how the words “my bride” is found in these verses without him mentioning anything about it.  The bible clearly shows that this was Solomon’s wife.

 

More on the Penis' big sizes.  Let us look Ezekiel 16:26 "You engaged in prostitution with the Egyptians, your lustful neighbors, and provoked me to anger with your increasing promiscuity [increasing size of your penis that is]."  The Bible is big on talking about penises and their sizes.

 

Ha ha ha, this is a joke, Mr. Osama thinks that Penis is in this verse. He doesn’t even know the Hebrew meaning of Penis so he added words into this verse to make us think that pornography exist in it. Notice the brackets. This has nothing at all to do with sex, and what Bible neophyte Osama doesn’t tell us is that God is talking about the city of Jerusalem!!! Read closely:

 

1 The word of the LORD came to me:

2 "Son of man, confront Jerusalem with her detestable practices 

3 and say, `This is what the Sovereign LORD says to Jerusalem: Your ancestry and birth were in the land of the Canaanites; your father was an Amorite and your mother a Hittite. 

4 On the day you were born your cord was not cut, nor were you washed with water to make you clean, nor were you rubbed with salt or wrapped in cloths. 

5 No one looked on you with pity or had compassion enough to do any of these things for you. Rather, you were thrown out into the open field, for on the day you were born you were despised.

6 "`Then I passed by and saw you kicking about in your blood, and as you lay there in your blood I said to you, "Live!"

7 I made you grow like a plant of the field. You grew up and developed and became the most beautiful of jewels. Your breasts were formed and your hair grew, you who were naked and bare.

8 "`Later I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for love, I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your nakedness. I gave you my solemn oath and entered into a covenant with you, declares the Sovereign LORD, and you became mine. 

9 "`I bathed you with water and washed the blood from you and put ointments on you.

10 I clothed you with an embroidered dress and put leather sandals on you. I dressed you in fine linen and covered you with costly garments.

11 I adorned you with jewelry: I put bracelets on your arms and a necklace around your neck, 

12 and I put a ring on your nose, earrings on your ears and a beautiful crown on your head.

13 So you were adorned with gold and silver; your clothes were of fine linen and costly fabric and embroidered cloth. Your food was fine flour, honey and olive oil. You became very beautiful and rose to be a queen.

14 And your fame spread among the nations on account of your beauty, because the splendor I had given you made your beauty perfect, declares the Sovereign LORD.

15 "`But you trusted in your beauty and used your fame to become a prostitute. You lavished your favors on anyone who passed by and your beauty became his.

16 You took some of your garments to make gaudy high places, where you carried on your prostitution. Such things should not happen, nor should they ever occur. 

17 You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them.

18 And you took your embroidered clothes to put on them, and you offered my oil and incense before them.

19 Also the food I provided for you--the fine flour, olive oil and honey I gave you to eat--you offered as fragrant incense before them. That is what happened, declares the Sovereign LORD.

20 "`And you took your sons and daughters whom you bore to me and sacrificed them as food to the idols. Was your prostitution not enough?

21You slaughtered my children and sacrificed them to the idols.

22 In all your detestable practices and your prostitution you did not remember the days of your youth, when you were naked and bare, kicking about in your blood. 

23 "`Woe! Woe to you, declares the Sovereign LORD. In addition to all your other wickedness,

24 you built a mound for yourself and made a lofty shrine in every public square.

25 At the head of every street you built your lofty shrines and degraded your beauty, offering your body with increasing promiscuity to anyone who passed by.

26 You engaged in prostitution with the Egyptians, your lustful neighbors, and provoked me to anger with your increasing promiscuity.

27 So I stretched out my hand against you and reduced your territory; I gave you over to the greed of your enemies, the daughters of the Philistines, who were shocked by your lewd conduct.

 

This has nothing to do with sex at all, God is punishing Jerusalem, by the hand of the Philistines, and he is so upset with Jerusalem until he compares them to a prostitute!!!! Mr. Osama can’t show any true pornography in the bible unless he adds words to the text and then post out of context. We must ask Osama, this question, if you truly believe that Porn exist in the Bible then how come you need to add words to it to make it appear this way?

 

David sexually fantasizes about Jonathan "I (David) grieve for you, Jonathan my brother; you were very dear to me.  Your love for me was wonderful, more wonderful than that of woman.  (2Samuel 1:21)"  We all know that the love of a woman for a man is sexual.  If Jonathan's love was even greater than a woman's, then David must have been gay; dreaming to have anal sex with Jonathan.  David is supposed to be one of the Bible's holy figures.  Talk about teaching kids good morals straight from the

Bible and its Prophets.

 

David wasn’t Gay, Mr. Osama is gay and that is why I believe he takes special pride in posting this scripture. If David loved Jonathan sexually then the word in Hebrew for Love would be “'ahab”.  This word’s 1st definition, when not referring to God’s love, or love between man and God,  means-human love for another, includes family, and sexual.  However the word for love in 2 Samuel 1:21 is “ahabah”. The first and foremost definition is-human love for human object, 1.of man toward man, 2.of man toward himself.  If Osama wanted to prove that this was the case (about David) being gay then this word “ahab”, not “ahabah” would’ve been used first and foremost. You have to go all the way to the last definition of “ahabah” for it to mean sexual desire!!! This word is virtually always used as a term to denote non-sexual love in Hebrew!!! Osama basically is attacking Christianity from a paraphrased translation of the English Bible!!!

 

David watches a women bathe, likes what he sees, and "goes in unto her."   Let us look at 2Samuel 11:2-4  "One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, 'Isn't this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite?'  Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (She had purified herself from her uncleanness.) Then she went back home."  Again, this Holy Figure in the Bible is a pervert!.  Again, talk about teaching kids morals straight from the Bible and it's Prophets.

 

In order for Osama to make this seem true, then surely he would’ve posted some scriptures where God says that this was allowable. However he can only make useless accusations, I guess he must to have forgot about what Allah says about David.

 

2.251 By Allah's will they routed them; and David slew Goliath; and Allah gave him power and wisdom and taught him whatever (else) He willed. And did not Allah check one set of people by means of another, the earth would indeed be full of mischief: But Allah is full of bounty to all the worlds.

 

4.163 We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms.

 

5.78 Curses were pronounced on those among the Children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary: because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses.

 

6.84 We gave him Isaac and Jacob: all (three) We guided: and before him, We guided Noah, and among his progeny, David, Solomon, Job, Joseph, Moses, and Aaron: thus do We reward those who do good:

 

We see that Allah even guided David so, if this were the case, as the Quran claims then it wasn’t Satan (as shown in the Bible to influence men to do wrong) that led David but it was Allah!!!! Read more:

 

17.55 And it is your Lord that knoweth best all beings that are in the heavens and on earth: We made some prophets to excel others: and We gave to David the Psalms.

 

21.78 And remember David and Solomon, when they gave judgment in the matter of the field into which the sheep of certain people had strayed by night: We did witness their judgment.

 

21.79 To Solomon We inspired the (right) understanding of the matter: to each (of them) We gave Judgment and Knowledge; it was Our power that made the hills and the birds celebrate Our praises with David: it was We Who did (all these things).

 

Oh, Allah says he sends his praises to David, so apparently Allah didn’t have a problem with David and Bathsheeba, that should be understandable, since from reading above, we already know how Perverted Hajj Allah’s paradise is.

 

27.15 We gave knowledge to David and Solomon: And they both said: "Praise be to Allah, Who has favored us above many of His servants who believe!"

 

27.16 And Solomon was David's heir. He said: "O ye people! We have been taught the speech of birds, and we have been given of every thing: this is indeed Grace manifest (from Allah.)"

 

34.10 We bestowed Grace aforetime on David from Us: "O ye Mountains! Sing ye back the Praises of Allah with him! and ye birds (also)! And We made the iron soft for him;-

 

34.13 They worked for him as he desired, (making) arches, images, basons as large as wells, and (cooking) cauldrons fixed (in their places): "Exercise thanks, sons of David! but few of My servants are grateful!"

 

38.17 Have patience at what they say, and remember Our servant David, the man of strength: for he ever turned (in repentance to Allah).

 

Allah says in the Quran that David was a man of strength, not homosexuality, or sin, and that he always turned to Allah in repentance. I guess Quran neophyte Osama doesn’t even know about his own book!!

 

38.22 When they entered to David, and he was terrified of them, they said: "Fear not: we are two disputants, one of whom has wronged the other: decide now between us with truth, and treat us not with injustice, but guide us to the even Path..

 

38.24 (David) said: "He has undoubtedly wronged thee in demanding thy (single) ewe to be added to his (flock of) ewes: truly many are the partners (in business) who wrong each other: Not so do those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and how few are they?"...and David gathered that We had tried him: he asked forgiveness of his Lord, fell down, bowing (in prostration), and turned (to Allah in repentance).

 

So apparently, Allah forgave David, so there is no more sin, therefore, Osama is judging David when Allah already forgave him!!!!

 

38.26 O David! We did indeed make thee a vicegerent on earth: so judge thou between men in truth (and justice): nor follow thou the lust (of thy heart), for it will mislead thee from the Path of Allah: for those who wander astray from the Path of Allah, is a chastisement Grievous, for that they forget the Day of Account.

 

Again, The Quran says that David shouldn’t follow the lust of the heart, but yet Allah tells him, to judge between men. Mr. Osama can you please tell me why Allah is picking in your case a homosexual to judge men? Surely you can answer this for us.

 

38.30 To David We gave Solomon (for a son),- How excellent is the servant! Ever did he turn (to Us in repentance)!

 

Also what Osama fells to post to the reader is 2 Samuel 11:27-

 

After the time of mourning was over, David had her brought to his house, and she became his wife and bore him a son. But the thing David had done displeased the LORD.

 

Hmm, if God loves perversion and pornography then how come he was displeased with this? Maybe Osama can provide us with an answer for this.

 

GOD supposedly inspired King David's men to get some heat for King David by having a beautiful virgin minister unto him.  Let us look at 1King1:1-4 "When King David was old and well advanced in years, he could not keep warm even when they put covers over him.  So his servants said to him, 'Let us look for a young virgin to attend the king and take care of him. She can lie beside him so that our lord the king may keep warm.'  Then they searched throughout Israel for a beautiful girl and found Abishag, a Shunammite, and brought her to the king.  The girl was very beautiful; she took care of the king and waited on him, but the king had no intimate relations with her."  Is the Bible a pornful man made book? or is it an inspired Divine Book from GOD Almighty?  Did GOD Almighty inspire David's men to bring him a young virgin so he can sleep with her without marriage?  What kind of morals are we teaching our kids here?

 

We don’t see anywhere where Yahweh told David’s men to bring in the young virgin to sleep with David, this is the product of Osama’s perverted homosexual mind. The Scripture clearly says that the young lady was brought in order to keep King David warm. I guess Osama want’s Allah’s servant, as mentioned in the Quran, to die!  Apparently he must not be a Muslim, but a Satanist!!! David couldn’t stay warm by himself so in order to keep him alive the woman was needed. Mr. Osama also makes himself look silly when he says “Did GOD Almighty inspire David's men to bring him a young virgin so he can sleep with her without marriage?”  Ladies and Gentleman this shows you that Osama doesn’t read because in the passage it says in vs. 4 that-

The girl was very beautiful; she took care of the king and waited on him, but the king had no intimate relations with her.   

 

Unbelievable, it’s amazing how Osama goes through great trouble to show pornography in the Bible when he can’t even read the verses!!!!

 

Let us look at Esther 2:2-4 "Then the king's personal attendants proposed, 'Let a search be made for beautiful young virgins for the king.  Let the king appoint commissioners in every province of his realm to bring all these beautiful girls into the harem at the citadel of Susa. Let them be placed under the care of Hegai, the king's eunuch, who is in charge of the women; and let beauty treatments be given to them.  Then let the girl who pleases the king be queen instead of Vashti.' This advice appealed to the king, and he followed it."   So what we call today illegal prostitution and sex according to the "laws of the Bible" is actually allowed in the Bible?  Here we see that GOD Almighty in His Divine Book, the "Holy Bible", inspired the King and his men to bring young bosomed virgins to sleep with the King, and the best one of them would replace Vashti.  What kind of a low and cheap man made book the Bible really is?

 

The only thing cheap is this accusation, nowhere in Esther is prostitution mentioned. Osama can’t show you a single scripture in this passage that shows King Xerxes sleeping with anyone of these girls, so he has to stoop to false accusations and assumptions. Read Esther 2:17-

 

Now the king was attracted to Esther more than to any of the other women, and she won his favor and approval more than any of the other virgins. So he set a royal crown on her head and made her queen instead of Vashti.

 

We see that no mention of sexual activity, but instead as Esther 2:2-4 says “whoever wins the favor of the King will be queen”. Esther won the favor of Xerxes and then he put a crown on her head making her queen. Great lesson to teach your kids, find a beautiful woman or man for the ladies, and then have them win your favor and love and then MARRY THEM BEFORE SLEEPING WITH THEM.  These morals are missing glaringly in the Quran, all we see if Muhammad going to Hajj Allah to marry more women to satisfy is lust. I guess that is why his favorite wife 9 year old Aisha was so pleasing to him.  Also notice dear reader that Osama didn’t mention anything about how if the favor of the King were won, the lady would be queen. Any body can see this if they read. The best Osama can do is add extra comments in to coerce the reader in to believing what his homosexual mind wants them to believe.

 

Let us look at Proverbs 7:18 "Come, let's drink deep of love [making] till morning; let's enjoy ourselves with love [making....including intercourse]!"  Again, more on teaching young kids how to be perverts and professionals in sexual intercourse and sinning.   Why is the Bible so big on sex and sinning?

 

The bible isn’t big on sinning, Osama believes this because he posts scriptures out of context. Lets see what the Bible says about this issue in Proverbs 7:18-27:

 

18 Come, let's drink deep of love till morning; let's enjoy ourselves with love!

19 My husband is not at home; he has gone on a long journey.

20 He took his purse filled with money and will not be home till full moon."

21 With persuasive words she led him astray; she seduced him with her smooth talk.

22 All at once he followed her like an ox going to the slaughter, like a deer stepping into a noose  

23 till an arrow pierces his liver, like a bird darting into a snare, little knowing it will cost him his life.

24 Now then, my sons, listen to me; pay attention to what I say.

25 Do not let your heart turn to her ways or stray into her paths.

26 Many are the victims she has brought down; her slain are a mighty throng.

27 Her house is a highway to the grave, leading down to the chambers of death.

 

We don’t see any mention of sexual intercourse, Osama flat out lies and says that the bible promotes sin when verse 24-27 says that this woman is evil, deceitful, and leads people to the grave!!! Then the Bible says that “Do not let your hearts turn to her ways or stray into her paths.” If this is telling us to sin the Osama must want it to say do all the things with the woman, that is what he considers to be right!!!! Unbelievable!!!

 

Let us look at 2 Samuel 12:11-12 "This is what the LORD Says: 'Out of your own household I am going to bring calamity upon you.   Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to one who is close to you, and he will lie with your wives in broad daylight.  You did it in secret, but I will do this thing in broad daylight before all Israel."  How much value do women hold in the Bible?

 

This is also a joke, since God didn’t do this, read the very next verse, 2 Samuel 12:13, that Osama doesn’t post.

 

Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the LORD." Nathan replied, "The LORD has taken away your sin. You are not going to die.

 

We see no such mention of God killing any women, I guess Osama forgot about this verses in the Quran:

 

2.222 They ask thee concerning women's courses. Say: They are a hurt and a pollution: So keep away from women in their courses, and do not approach them until they are clean. But when they have purified themselves, ye may approach them as ordained for you by Allah. For Allah loves those who turn to Him constantly; and He loves those who keep themselves pure and clean.

 

Apparently Hajj Allah tells men to stay away from women when they are menstruating. He says that they are polluted!!! How can a woman be polluted when every man had to come through a woman!!! When a baby is conceived, usually the sperm fertilizes when an egg from a woman’s menstrual cycle intersects it!!! That means that a woman is dirty and polluted as shown by Hajj Allah, even though he supposedly created women to have babies!!! Also the verse continues by saying that Allah loves those who keep themselves pure and clean, In this case that means that Allah hates women when they are menstruating, which shows us that he only loves them part of the month!! This is so embarrassing. Here is more:

 

2.228 Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what Allah Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.

 

Hajj Allah says that the Husbands have the better right, not the women, to take them back if they wish too, and then Hajj Allah says that men have an advantage over the women!! I thought men and women were equal in Islam!!! Apparently Hajj Allah doesn’t think so. Look at this silly contradiction:

 

4.19 O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good.

 

Now read this:

 

 

4.34 Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, beat them; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, Great (above you all).

 

So is it kind to beat them? Hajj Allah thinks so.  Also we see here that a woman who is only obedient is good. What gives a person the right to beat his wife?

 

Let us look at Song of Songs1:7 "Tell me, you whom I love, where you graze your flock and where you rest your sheep at midday. Why should I be like a veiled woman beside the flocks of your friends?"   Why should a woman cover up?  wouldn't this contradict Matthew 5:29: "If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell."  If sex and open sexuality is so big in the Bible as I proved beyond the shadow of the doubt in this article, then wouldn't this fully contradict Matthew 5:29?

 

Look at this ladies and gentlemen, Osama went and updated his article, first he had I Corinthians 11:13, as shown up top, with these very same words and then when he was made to look silly for seriously misinterpreting the bible he went and changed it with Matthew 5:29. If Osama is so confident in his argument then how come he has to constantly update his articles when he sees my reply?  Also there is no contradiction present since adding words to the bible doesn’t constitute pornography. His article is name “Pornography in the bible” not “Pornography in the bible because of Osama’s added words in brackets”.

 

Sleeping with his own sister: Let us look at Song of Songs 5:4 "I slept but my heart was awake. Listen! My lover is knocking: 'Open to me, my sister, my darling, my dove, my flawless one. My head is drenched with dew, my hair with the dampness of the night.'  I have taken off my robe [showed off his groin in other words] must I put it on again? I have washed my feet, must I soil them again?  My lover thrust his hand through the latch-opening [his sister's vagina?!]; my heart began to pound for him."  What a disgusting way for someone to talk so pervertedly about his sister like that!!.  Yet it's all in the Bible.

 

We discussed the meaning of sister at the beginning of this article, the word for sister in this verse is “'achowth”, when referring to Solomon’s wife it always means his lover not physical sister.  Mr. Osama claims to be from Palestine but yet he seems to be ignorant of the fact that the Jews used the term brother and sister to refer to their beloved (husbands) and lover (wives). I am utterly shocked by Osama’s lack of knowledge of the Bible. In fact even the Quran acknowledges this:

 

7.38 He will say: "Enter ye in the company of the Peoples who passed away before you - men and Jinns, - into the Fire." Every time a new People enters, it curses its sister-People (that went before), until they follow each other, all into the Fire. Saith the last about the first: "Our Lord! it is these that misled us: so give them a double punishment in the Fire." He will say: "Doubled for all" : but this ye do not know.

 

Since we clearly see here that sister means people, I guess all these people who had sex in these cultures were either lesbians or hermaphrodites!!!  This isn’t anything shocking since Allah himself is a hermaphrodite!!! Read this link for more information toward the end: http://www.geocities.com/queball23/Allah.html.  Here is more:

 

19.28 "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!"

 

This is even further proof from the Quran that sister in the Near East was used as a normal term to refer to a woman, who wasn’t a physical biological sister. If Osama disagrees then this clearly shows us then that Mary was the physical sister of Aaron, who lived almost 1500 years before!!!  Also the Bible doesn’t mention anywhere that Solomon was opening someone’s vagina, Osama seems to confuse latch with vagina in Hebrew!!! The word for that the NIV translates for latch is “Pathach”, this word means- to open, a.(Qal) to open, b.(Niphal) to be opened, be let loose, be thrown open, c.(Piel),1.to free, 2.to loosen, 3.to open, open oneself, d.(Hithpael) to loose oneself.  Now how in the word can Solomon open up his supposed sister’s vagina, when 1.) the word vagina is present in the text, and 2.) when this word means to open or loose ONESELF, AND NOT SOMEONE ELSE!!!!  Osama’s arguments are good for a cheap laugh and that’s it.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 5:8 "O daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you-- if you find my lover, what will you tell him? Tell him I am faint with love."   Teaching women to be sexually too open.

 

This isn’t teaching anybody to be open sexually, read what the bible says in context

 

6 I opened for my lover, but my lover had left; he was gone. My heart sank at his departure. I looked for him but did not find him. I called him but he did not answer. 

7 The watchmen found me as they made their rounds in the city. They beat me, they bruised me; they took away my cloak, those watchmen of the walls!

8 O daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you-- if you find my lover, what will you tell him? Tell him I am faint with love.

 

How in the world is beating someone considered teaching women to be openly sexual? I guess with Osama’s thinking, women getting beat is sexually exciting. I guess the watchmen are supposed to beat Solomon’s wife in private like the Quran says and that way it would be more acceptable, since doing this in the open qualifies as being too openly sexual.  Guess that is right huh Osama? Yes.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 6:6-7 "Your teeth are like a flock of sheep coming up from the washing. Each has its twin, not one of them is alone.  Your temples behind your veil [that's her rear end in other words] are like the halves of a pomegranate."

 

Mr. Osama really shows his ignorance with this verse. He claims that the ladies face is her rear end!!!! You don’t have temples on your butt!!!!  Nor do Jewish people were a veil on their butt!!! The word for temples in Hebrew, that the NIV correctly translates is “Raqqah”.  The meaning of this word is- temple, the temple (of the head).  Mr. Osama can go and check this out in any concordance or Hebrew dictionary. Infact he will probably come up with some type of excuse, like he always does.

 

The references for the following references Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9 were sent to me by one of my best friends Faisal Azar who is a former Christian who embraced Islam; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.

 

"How beautiful your sandaled feet, O prince's daughter! Your graceful legs are like jewels, the work of a craftsman's hands.

 

Your navel [according to Hebrew translation it is referring to the woman's VAGINA.  The English translators substituted the word "NAVEL" WITH "VAGINA."  This was mentioned on "Sex in the Bible" on A&E TV Station.  This was sent to me by my dear brother Mike who embraced Islam just recently; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him] is a rounded goblet that never lacks blended wine.   Your waist is a mound of wheat encircled by lilies.

 

Your breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle.

 

Your neck is like an ivory tower.  Your eyes are the pools of Heshbon by the gate of Bath Rabbi.

 

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I said 'I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.'  May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples, and your mouth like the best wine.  (The NIV Bible, Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9)"

 

Apparently Mr. Azar is more ignorant than Osama for claiming this. Osama says that this was mentioned in “Sex in the Bible” on A&E TV station. So one must asked this question, what date, program time, and address can we inquire about to see this video?  If this was such great evidence how come Osama doesn’t provide any reference dates or TV. times? He’s probably never even seen this show!  He claims that the English translators of the Bible substituted the word NAVEL WITH VAGINA, well then lets see what the Jewish translators said in these scriptures: Read Solomon 7:2-3 from the JPS Bible located at this link: http://www.breslov.com/bible/Song_of_Songs7.htm#2

 

2 How beautiful are thy steps in sandals, O prince's daughter! The roundings of thy thighs are like the links of a chain, the work of the hands of a skilled workman.

3 Thy navel is like a round goblet, wherein no mingled wine is wanting; thy belly is like a heap of wheat set about with lilies.

 

This is very funny because the Jewish translators also called it NAVEL. They can’t be accused of mistranslating this word because they aren’t English translators.  The reason why both the English translators and the Jews translates this word as nave is because in Hebrew it is “Shorer” and it means navel, umbilical cord. Osama should take a note from Mr. Mohd and utilize Strong’s Concordance since he strongly misinterprets the holy scripture.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 7:11 "Come, my lover, let us go to the countryside, let us spend the night in the villages [and make love of course]." 

 

Once again, we have established that Solomon’s lover is his wife, therefore, there should be nothing wrong with making love to your wife.  Maybe if Osama could get a woman he wouldn’t be so angry at this beautiful love story.

 

Let us look at Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me.  I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house-- she who has taught me. I would give you spiced wine to drink, the nectar of my pomegranates.  His left arm is under my head and his right arm embraces me [feeling her entire body, and then of course make love- intercourse with his VERY OWN SISTER]."  So she would sleep with her own brother, and he would sleep with his own sister (see Song of Songs 4:9-12).

 

Notice the word “LIKE” present here, this word means that Solomon’s wife is metaphorically speaking of him being like her brother THAT WAS NURSED AT HER MOTHER’S BREAST. How can she sleep with her brother when he is a baby nursing at his mother’s breast? We’ll leave that for Osama to answer for us, since he is great at concocting stories, much like Muhammad and the fairytales in the Quran!!!

 

Comparing sisters' breasts and brothers' penises to the size of a tower

 

Let us look at the following verses:   "We have a young sister, and her breasts are not yet grown. What shall we do for our sister for the day she is spoken for?  (Song of Songs 8:8)"  and later about the sister....."I am a wall, and my breasts are like towers. Thus I have become in his eyes like one bringing contentment.  (Song of Songs 8:10)"  Good thing that the Bible didn't compare the size of men's penis' with a tower as it did compare men's penis' with horses' (see Ezekiel 23:20).  It's quite clear that the Bible encourages sisters to compare the size of their brothers' penises to towers.  Think about it, if I say your face is beautiful, then wouldn't this open the door for you to say something beautiful about me too? 

 

We don’t even see the word Penis in either of these verses, Osama must be dyslexic and can’t see straight!!!  How else can you explain how a person mistakes words for penises!!! First he contradicts himself by saying the bible compares men’s penis to the size of a tower and then he says that Good thing that the Bible didn't compare the size of men's penis' with a tower as it did compare men's penis' with horses” Then he further contradicts himself by saying:It's quite clear that the Bible encourages sisters to compare the size of their brothers' penises to towers”.  Which one is it Osama? First you said the bible tells you to compare, then not to compare and the finally compare? Ladies and gentlemen, Osama can’t even get his words correct in trying to refute the Bible. This shows us clearly that he follows the example of Hajj Allah, who has to abrogate and Substitute because he can’t make up his mind either. Read:

 

2.106 None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?

 

Now if Allah was all powerful, why the need to substitute and bring something in better or similar, can’t get it right the first time? Yes!!! Much like Osama can’t even get his own words right.

 

Since the Bible is big on talking about how BIG and POWERFUL men's penises are in Ezekiel 23:20, and is big about having brothers talk about how BIG in size their sisters' breasts are, then wouldn't this encourage sisters to compare the size of their brothers' penises to towers too?

 

The bible mentions no such thing, the word for genitals in this scripture is “ereev meen”.  The word here in Hebrew is Basar, which means flesh. This was discussed at the beginning of this article.

 

It is quite amazing that the Bible has such porn in it.  I really don't know what more to say about such book. 

 

Osama said it perfectly, notice the part “I really don’t know what more to say about such book”.  Sure he doesn’t since he had to add words in to make his flawed idea of Pornography be in the bible.  If I did this with the Quran, I would immediately be called a liar but it seems like Osama loves to do this with the Bible. What is he? A liar personified.

 

Is this what the Holy Book of GOD should really contain?

 

No, it doesn’t contain this since we clearly have seen that Osama added words and comments to the text, which doesn’t exist in the Bible. He comes up with this bogus claim about “debate me from the NIV Bible” when he doesn’t even use the text without adding words to it!!! Tell me Osama since when have your words been part of the NIV Bible? They never have and they never will.

 

Is this really from GOD?  You judge for yourself.

 

It is, however your added words aren’t so we careless about your phony claims of pornography in the bible.

 

Does the Bible allow for women to be Lesbians?

 

Let us look at Leviticus 20:13: "`If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."  The Bible here punishes to death those males who have anal sex.

 

But however, there is no mention throughout the Bible about punishing Lesbian women!.  

 

This is also a flawed argument since the Quran mentions the same thing!!! Read:

 

4.16 If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful.

 

That homosexuality must be treated as a crime in a Moslem State is evident from the story of Lot and his people.  Verse IV. 16 says: “If two men commit indecency punish them both; if the repent and mend their ways, let them be.” In this case NO SPECIAL PENALTY HAS BEEN PRESCRIBED. (Sherif, Faruq, A Guide to the Contents of the Quran, pg. 214; Garnet publishing, printed in Lebanon, 1998)

 

This book is the only kind available that details the contents of the Quran and it was written in Lebanon, a Muslim country!!! We don’t even see no punishment for homosexuality in the Quran, nor do we see anywhere in which women are mentioned either, which shows us that Allah allows lesbianism. The word for man in Leviticus is “ish”, it’s first and foremost definition means man but it also can mean a human being also. Osama also lies with claiming that the Bible doesn’t mention anything about lesbianism. Read Leviticus 18:17-18

17"`Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do not have sexual relations with either her son's daughter or her daughter's daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.

18"`Do not take your wife's sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.

 

These are just a few examples, for Osama to base the word man just being man is fallible since Hajj Allah put it the same way in the Quran!!! Muslim scholars recognize the above Surah to refer to all homosexuality, male or female, so therefore if we take Osama’s logic then he infact have just proven that the Quran doesn’t account for lesbianism.

 

Let us look at the following two examples:

 

Leviticus 20:15 "IF A MAN has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal."

 

Leviticus 20:16 "IF A WOMAN approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

 

Notice in the above two verses that the man has to get caught having sex with an animal in order for him to be put to death, while the woman does not necessarily have to get caught having sex with an animal.  If she only looks suspicious then she would still be put to death, while the man has to be caught doing it. 

 

This is also false since the scripture clearly says if  WOMAN approaches an animal TO HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH IT!!! Verse 15 says IF A MAN HAS SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH AN ANIMAL!!! The word for look isn’t present in this verse at all, nor can Osama try and hide what the scripture clearly says about both men and women having sex with an animal. Just look at the highlighted parts of Osama’s arguments in his post to see just how foolish he tries to ignore them. The bible mentions nothing about putting women to death for suspiciously looking at an animal. Osama is dyslexic so it’s hard for him to read straight. Or he is just lying. Personally, I believe it’s a combination of both.

 

The point is, we can't apply Leviticus 20:13 above to Lesbians, because it only talks about male gays practicing anal sex.

 

Therefore, the Bible does allow for women to be Lesbians.

 

Since this is the case as he claims then Osama has just proven the Quran wrong too, since he can’t find a single verse talking about lesbianism or even close to it, like we can in the Bible.

 

Conclusion

 

The above verses talk about porn and raping very openly.  They also talk about how round and tasty the women's breasts and vaginas are.  If women are sex objects in the Bible, then how is that supposed to be respectful to women? and what kind of a GOD that would talk about porn this openly in the Bible?  The Bible also allows for brothers to sleep with their sisters and vise versa and for women to be Lesbians.  It is quite obvious that the Bible is man made corruption and not the true Living Word of

GOD Almighty.

 

Would you trust your own little kid to read the Bible privately?

 

These verses mention no such thing, Osama takes Song of Solomon, which was written for his wife and then claims that love between a husband and wife is pornography and then he adds words to the bible and finally he claims that it talks about penises and vaginas!! He doesn’t even know what the word vagina is in Hebrew, which is why I am wondering why he hasn’t yet posted it on his site!!!

 

Here is Osama’s words at the beginning of his site:

 

(Just for those folks who misunderstood me, I love Christians and I have nothing against them).

 

This is very funny because look at this post that he posted about Christians on idjnet. My reader don’t be to offended, but people who don’t have God are capable of language like this. One of his messages to other Christians on Idjnet, including myself, Quennel Gale is called LEAVE THIS BOARD YOU FUCKEN CHRISTIANS:

 

Osama Abdallah wrote:

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Hey Christians, this is not a Chrisitan chat room.  Not it is a comparative religious studies one!!!

 

This is simply an Islamic chat room.  Christians here such as Quennel Gale, Muhammad Ibn Elohim, Lori and Nick come and post their Christian irrelevant information in here.

 

You are guys are the biggest vandulists and the biggest assholes  I've ever seen!!!.

 

It's not like we go to your Christian boards and post our Islamic information there!!!.

 

As you can see, the Muslims here only come here.  It is you who herrase us where ever we go.

 

Does you Bible allow you to be a vandulist?  I don't think so.

 

Get the hell out of this board and quit posting your Christian crap.

 

Osama Abdallah

 

Mr. Osama obviously hates Christians, the idjnet board is a Muslim-Christian dialogue and both religions have a right to be on it. It isn’t a Islamic chat room, it is for all faiths that want to discuss things. Now lets look at Osama’s reason for the purpose of his site. This is very interesting:

 

As'salamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh (God's peace, mercy and blessings be upon you) and upon your families as well

 

Due to a number of misunderstandings that happened by some of the Christian readers, I would like to identify the purpose of why I created this web site. When I came to the U.S. in 1988, I didn't know anything about Christianity.  I was born and raised as a Muslim in the Middle East.  When I became involved in the internet and surfed it quite a lot, I came across so many ANTI-ISLAMIC web sites that were posted by Christians who were mostly Arab Christians.  There are only 1.5 million Muslims in the Entire United States of America, and I found it to be very disturbing that the internet has so much ANTI-ISLAMIC sites against us.  I felt that everyone was ganging up on us.

 

Now if Osama claims that Christians are ganging up on him, how come the majority of the Christian websites out on the net don’t care anything about Islam nor discuss it? Most talk about the end times, finding Jesus as your savior as well as bible study. So this is a paranoid idea made and propagated by Osama himself.

 

Now, I hope you would understand my position and intentions very well here.  After I became very disturbed by the overwhelming majority of Christians putting down my religion in the U.S., I decided to take it upon myself and to defend my religion with the best of my ability.  I think any loyal, good, and faithful person to his religion and people would do what I did.  I didn't come to the U.S. to battle Christians nor I ever thought about the religion of Christianity when I was back home.  I found myself thrown into this battle of religions here and I had no choice.  The last thing I wanted to happen is to see our young Muslim brothers and sisters who are born here in the U.S. get too effected by the religion of Christianity that its followers who try to force it upon them through the internet and the media and have them convert without knowing the real truth about both religions:  Islam and Christianity.

 

Now if he was so disturbed how come he came to the U.S. which is a Christian country?  In Saudi Arabia and other Islamic countries Christians aren’t even allowed to enter the country just because they are Christian. It’s a joke to see a Muslim ask for civil rights when they themselves don’t want you in their country.  He did try to defend Islam the best way he could, even by falsely inserting words into the bible as we seen from this paper and then building false arguments as well as cursing Christians out.  The Muslims here in the U.S. aren’t affected by the Christians.  The U.S. was builded upon Christian principles, the only reason why the mosques here in the U.S. are still standing is because we Christians allow them too due to the fact that we allow freedom of religion, something the Arabs in Arabia don’t.  Also there are many Islamic sites that try and force Islam upon Christians, even here in Chicago, you see Muslims getting on the train passing out pamphlets and preaching telling you to come to Islam so please spare us Osama.

 

I wanted to expose Christianity to them and to show them that the Bible is not the book that teaches freedom of speech and choice as the Americans and the Westerners think.  I also wanted to expose to them that the Bible doesn't respect women, since Islam is always attacked from the issue of women.  I wanted to prove to as many Muslim brothers and sisters as possible that Jesus is not and can not be God nor ever claimed to be God.  I also wanted to prove to them that Islam is a beautiful religion and a religion of love and peace and not a religion of hatred as the West always tries to picture it to be.

 

 

Now this is his great purpose, to expose Christianity? He claims that the Bible doesn’t respect women when Surah 4 in the Quran tells you to beat them? Such hypocrisy.  He said he wanted to prove that Jesus wasn’t God and cannot be God? Why because he said so? Look at these claims and see if Jesus really did claim to be God from the Bible. Read:

 

John 10:31-33:

30 I and the Father are one."

31 Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him,

32 but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"

33 "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

 

Jesus himself said this and they stoned him. So for Osama to say that Jesus wasn’t God because of this matter is fallible since Jesus claimed to be both a servant and God.

 

Mr. Osama must not know about John 5:17-18 –“But Jesus answered them, My father has been working until now, and I have been working.  Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill him because he not only broke the Sabbath but also said that God was HIS FATHER, making himself EQUAL WITH GOD.”  Literally, “His own Father” Greek- patera idion.  It is clear that the Jews understood that Jesus was claiming to be God.’” (NKJV, footnote, pg 843, Scoffield, 1989).

 

There are many more of these examples shown at http://www.geocities.com/queball23/Answering-Osama.html located at

http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/

 

If you wonder why I created www.answering-christianity.com, well that's because a group of anti-Islamics had created a site called www.answering-islam.org.  Those same people also own www.answering-christianity.org.  The reason why they occupied www.answering-christianity.org and didn't put any webpage on that site is because they wanted the Muslims to think that no Muslim cares about responding to their claims in www.answering-islam.org, which they thought that by this lie they will be able to deceive as many Muslims as possible and convert them to their serious errors and alterations.

 

Nobody on answering Islam is trying to deceive anybody, just look at the fake words inserted by Osama in pornography in the Bible and you will get a good taste of lies and deceit.

 

I think that the owners of www.answering-islam.org are big hypocrites and big liars !.  If they really consider themselves good and truthful Christians as they claim on their site, then they shouldn't have played this dirty tricks on the Muslims by stealing the site that we deserve, and not let anyone know that they own it.  Visit http://www.networksolutions.com to see who owns what site if you don't believe me.

 

Thank you and God bless you !

 

In Islam

 

Osama Abdallah

 

Last I heard when you beat someone to a site, it isn’t theft! It was just called getting their first. Nobody plays trick on anybody, because you felt like you deserved something doesn’t mean that it’s stealing because you didn’t get it. He believes that anything that exposes Islam is a lie. He wants Christians to be truthful and fair but Osama doesn’t talk about the deceit in his articles and his hatred for Christians. Read more of the post he posted on Idjnet awhile back. As you can see this is the same message but under a different name, he named them FUCK YOU AND FUCK ALL CHRISTIANS WITH YOU !!!!!, FUCK ALL VANDULIST CHRISTIANS AND FUCK ALL CHRISTN, and more.

 

Osama Abdallah wrote:

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Hey Christians, this is not a Chrisitan chat room.  Not it is a comparative religious studies one!!!

 

This is simply an Islamic chat room.  Christians here such as Quennel Gale, Muhammad Ibn Elohim, Lori and Nick come and post their Christian irrelevant information in here.

 

You are guys are the biggest vandulists and the biggest assholes  I've ever seen!!!.

 

It's not like we go to your Christian boards and post our Islamic information there!!!.

 

As you can see, the Muslims here only come here.  It is you who herrase us where ever we go.

 

Does you Bible allow you to be a vandulist?  I don't think so.

 

Get the hell out of this board and quit posting your Christian crap.

 

Osama Abdallah

 

To show you just how Osama hates me particularly read this about me, (note I’m African American):

The title is “Even the smelly Niger speaks. Where are the whites”

 

Osama Abdallah wrote:

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Quennel, at least it wasn't us who shuffed the long sticks in your niger ass.  It was the Christian whites.

 

Even until today, a niger like you is prohibited from entering some churches. 

 

This doesn't exist among Muslims.

 

But a niger is a niger no matter how much you teach him, unless he converts to Islam.

 

Osama Abdallah

 

These messages were found on the Idjnet board and they were posted many times by a obvious demented man tormented by Satan. What Osama seems to forget is that most Muslims are of African descent and they would be very offended by an Arab calling them names like this. Also an Arab is the descendent of Hagar a Black Egyptian so Osama is also insulting his own Arab race. Does this sound like a man who loves Christians and has nothing against them? Please! I will have more information on answering the Porn in the Bible at a later date, if anybody wants to see the messages on idjnet for themselves the can email me at queball23@yahoo.com and I will send them the link. Ladies and gentlemen Muslims make these accusations like these who hate Christ, who hate Christians and do their best to discredit the Bible.  God said that there will be false prophets, men who hate God and men who hate Christ. Osama is one such man.

 

Here are some comments from one of the writers from answering Islam on Osama as well as some of my articles:

 

Great job!

 

Please tell Jochen at Answering-Islam about your articles so that he can link to them.  Keep up the good work, ignore the insults and slurs, and may God Bless you,

 

P.S.  I wonder if Osama realizes that "Niger" is a country in Northwestern Africa?  When I was a child, my parents taught me that bigotry was the result of our fallen human nature and of ignorance.  Sadly, Osama's outbursts confirm this.

 

Andrew Vargo

 

Here is more from a friend in Christ who just happened to click on:

 

Quennel,

 

As a brother in Christ I just wanted to say thank you for the marvelous work you're doing on the Answering Islam site, as well as the page you put together on answering pornography.

 

I was totally unaware of Islam and its practices about 6 months ago, until I encountered someone who offended me greatly. His claims about Christianity caused me to begin to explore the Bible in even greater detail. I have bought many books just to research things for myself. The Lord has led me to your site and it has been a wonderful blessing. My faith has even been strengthened more by the combination of your site and my extra reading.

 

The person I refer to is as vile and disgusting as Osama, and I really believe he has already been given over to a reprobate mind and is demonic. He goes to extreme lengths to discredit Christ, the Bible and Christianity. At times, I burn with rage at his claims and now I realize how David must have felt when he faced the uncircumcised Philistine. He is very similar to Osama in his approach and at times even parrots the same arguments.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks and keep up the good work. May God richly bless you.

 

Eddie

 

I wonder would Osama try to hide and then repost this same material again without showing his reader who he is rebuttaling.  He is good at hiding and then claiming that no one answered him.  Unlike him I’m not scared to link my material to his, since I know that he can’t legitimately answer it.

Osama’s pornography link is http://www.answering-christianity.com/x_rated.htm  

E-mail me Quennel Gale at queball20@yahoo.com

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