X- Rated Porn in the Bible?
Here we will answer the bogus claims made by Osama
Abdullah on his site about Pornography in the Bible. His excerpts are in Green.
The Bible has some really weird things
in it that you would really be ashamed to even share with your own little kids! It teaches you to fantasize about women's
breasts and vaginas. It also teaches
you to sleep with your own sister! Read
all of the verses below.
Let us look at Ezekiel 23:20 "There she lusted
after her lovers, whose genitals [penises] were like those of donkeys and whose
emission [the amount of semen output] was like that of horses." The Bible here is praising the lovers by comparing
the size of their penises with the donkeys' and the power and speed that the
semen come out with that of horses'.
When
the reader goes and reads this passage of scripture we see that the Bible isn’t
praising the lovers nor comparing how fast semen comes out of horses. Mr. Osama is good at making accusations
without posting context from the Bible.
The word for “genitals” translated by the NIV, is BASAR, which
means flesh! This word is used for
flesh 99% of the time. The word for
genitals in Hebrew is “every meen”. You
can check this out for yourself in a Hebrew dictionary. If you read from Ezekiel 23:19-22—
19 Yet she became more and more
promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in
Egypt.
20 There she lusted after her lovers,
whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of
horses.
21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth,
when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled. [1]
22 "Therefore, Oholibah, this is what
the Sovereign LORD says: I will stir up your lovers against you, those you
turned away from in disgust, and I will bring them against you from every
side--
1.21 Syriac (see also verse 3); Hebrew
caressed because of your young breasts
Note: I used the NIV since Osama loves this bible. The
word “genitals” is here was put there because the translators figured the
emission of semen relayed more to that. However this same translation, which is
based on the Hebrew bible just like any other translation. IN Hebrew genitals
isn’t present so Osama is attacking Christianity from a paraphrased translation
of the Bible. No scholar would claim
that the NIV is the best and most accurate translation of the Hebrew text. We see that Oholibah was a prostitute,
something Osama didn’t mention, and that in vs. 22 Yahweh is going to punish
her for her wickedness. I don’t know
how it’s porn when we see how Yahweh is going to punish a prostitute. Mr. Osama must condone prostitution of
women, which explains a link on his site where you find wives like they are
property--http://www.answering-christianity.com/personal.htm. The Bible clearly shows us that this
promiscuous woman would be judged.
Let us
look at Genesis 38:9 "But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his;
so whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground
to keep from producing offspring for his brother." Why should the Bible picture for us the
sexual experience that Onan was having?
Is this appropriate?
This is very appropriate because it lets us know how to
investigate adultery. By looking at
this verse we see how a man can try to get away with adultery by not allowing
the woman to get pregnant. However what
Osama doesn’t post is the very next verse of Genesis 38:10-
What
he did was wicked in the LORD's sight; so he put him to death also.
Mr. Osama tries to promote the idea of Porn in the Bible
but he never shows scriptures like these!!! He is such a liar. Yahweh himself killed Onan, which lets us
know clear and well how much he hates sin.
Since Osama didn’t post Genesis 38:10 the very next verse, he must
obviously enjoy this, if he doesn’t then he should’ve posted how Yahweh
punished Onan.
Checkout
this contradiction: In Genesis 34:1-2,
Shechem raped Dinah, Jacob's daughter.
Deuteronomy 22:28-30 clearly states that if a man rapes a single virgin
girl, then she must become his wife and they can't get divorced forever. We read in Genesis 34:25-31 that Jacob's
sons killed the rapist (Shechem) and his tribe. Jacob did not show any objection at all toward violating GOD's
laws. He only showed objection because
he feared revenge from the other related tribes. The two sons claimed that they did that because they felt their
sister was treated like a prostitute by the rape act. It just amazes me that even the Bible's Prophets don't obey its laws!!.
This isn’t a contradiction because Genesis occurred long
before Deuteronomy. How could Jacob
disobey a law that was given almost 1000 years later? Jacob lived before Joseph, the Hebrew captives, Moses and
Joshua. The only way Jacob would know
about this was to build a time Machine and then travel into the future!!! Muslims accept this silly argument because
they don’t know the history of the Bible, much like Osama.
Let us
look at Genesis 38:15-16 "When Judah saw her, he thought she was a
prostitute, for she had covered her face.
Not realizing that she was his daughter-in-law, he went over to her by
the roadside and said, 'Come now, let me sleep with you.'" Judah is supposed to be one of the Bible's
holy figures. Yet, he quickly would
sleep with a prostitute. Talk about
teaching the kids good morals right from the Bible.
Mr. Osama is using the Islamic fallacy of “every prophet
is perfect”. Judah was a normal
fallible man who was susceptible to sin also.
I notice that Osama didn’t mention anything about Muhammad marrying and
sleeping with his daughter-in-law Zaid.
Also read vs. 25-26—
25 As she
was being brought out, she sent a message to her father-in-law. "I am
pregnant by the man who owns these," she said. And she added, "See if
you recognize whose seal and cord and staff these are."
26 Judah
recognized them and said, "She is more righteous than I, since I
wouldn't give her to my son Shelah." And he did not sleep with her again.
In Christianity and Islam, we see that God forgives
sin. Judah admitted with sorrow that
she was more righteous than him! It
takes a good role model to admit mistakes and fly right! Of course Muhammad never did this, which
shows just how wimpy he is.
More on
sex and rape: In Genesis 39:7-23, the
wife of Joseph's master tries to get Joseph to go to bed with her. He refuses,
and flees leaving his "garment in her hand." She claims that Joseph
tried to rape her, and Joseph ends up imprisoned.
What in the world is wrong with this? This is letting you know how Joseph resisted
this act and was imprisoned falsely for this matter. This would be a good lesson to teach your kids on how faith in God
might get you unfairly punished but greatly rewarded. Muhammad felt like it was important so he put it in the Quran!!
Just read Surah 12. I guess this must
be pornography in the Quran too!!! In
fact the illiterate, hallucinogenic prophet of Allah seems to not even know how
much Joseph was sold for in this Surah!!!
Let us
look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a
man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a
man." Take the virgin women and
rape them.
The Bible doesn’t tell you to rape the women. Another lie, by Bible neophyte Osama. If you read Numbers 31:16, you see that
these people caused God’s people to commit sins against the sovereign Yahweh. Through war, God was bringing judgment upon
the unbelievers. It’s funny how Osama
tries to use this since we can easily point out tons of verses that tell people
to kill the unbeliever in the Quran. My
dear reader, a hypocrite can’t judge the Bible especially since his prophet
commanded his believers to kill based on hi own merits compared to Moses who
followed God.
Even
GOD enjoys raping virgin women in Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of
war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for
the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."
It doesn’t say anywhere in these scriptures that God
enjoyed raping women, another reason why Osama lies by posting out of
context. If Osama knew anything about
the Bible he would’ve known that these 32 people weren’t used in a sexual
fashion but would be dedicated to God, like Samuel.
Let us
look at Deuteronomy 28:15,30 "However, if you do not obey the LORD your
God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you
today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you......You will be
pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and ravish
her." Too much open sexuality in
the Bible, even in GOD's threats to you for not following His commands to make
you marry a "used woman".
I just don’t believe that Osama would embarrass himself
with posting this. In Deuteronomy
28:15, it talks about how God curses people for not following his commandments
not sex.—
15 However,
if you do not obey the LORD your God and do not carefully follow all his
commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will
come upon you and overtake you:
The last mention of a curse ends in vs. 20!!!! Ten verses before vs. 30!!!—
20 The
LORD will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your
hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil
you have done in forsaking him.
Osama lies about vs. 30 too since if the reader starts at
vs. 24, they would see that God is bringing judgment on the nation and not a
person who’s having sexual relationships with is wife. Osama also stops in the middle of vs.
30. If you read the rest you see that
after the wife is taken the house built wouldn’t be lived in.
Let us
look at Proverbs 5:19 "A loving doe, a graceful deer, may her breasts
satisfy you always, may you ever be captivated by her love (making)." Again, more sexual fantasies in the Bible.
Again another blatant lie from the master of lies. If you read the very next verse you will
clearly see this message –“Why be captivated, my son, by an adulteress?” Hmm very interesting because we don’t see
Solomon promoting a sexual fantasy as Osama claims. Read this passage in context:
18 May
your fountain be blessed, and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth.
19 A
loving doe, a graceful deer-- may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever
be captivated by her love.
20 Why
be captivated, my son, by an adulteress? Why embrace the bosom of another man's
wife?
21 For a
man's ways are in full view of the LORD, and he examines all his paths.
22 The
evil deeds of a wicked man ensnare him; the cords of his sin hold him
fast.
23 He
will die for lack of discipline, led astray by his own great folly.
We clearly see that this deed was evil and that Solomon
clearly told his son that he will die if he is led away by his lustful folly. This would be a good passage to show your
kid, to keep them out of sexual danger.
Mr. Osama, why no context with this verse? Reason why my dear reader is because Osama must post out of
context to make Islam look good.
Let us
look at Song of Songs 1:2-4 "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his
mouth-- for your love is more delightful than wine. Pleasing is the fragrance
of your perfumes; your name is like perfume poured out. No wonder the maidens
love you! Take me away with you--let us
hurry! Let the king bring me into his chambers. We rejoice and delight in you;
we will praise your love more than wine. How right they are to adore you!
" I don't think this would be
appropriate for a kid under 18 to read.
Also, I don't think it is appropriate to have such open sexuality in a
divine book anyway.
Mr. Osama who made you God? You see my dear reader Osama writes these papers to express his
views on what he thinks is appropriated.
Life In Paradise
The Quran teaches that men will
be granted access to a paradise that is purely carnal:
As to the righteous, they will be
in gardens and in happiness...(to them will be said,) "Eat and drink ye
with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds." They will
recline (with ease) on thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall
join them (in the original: marry them) to companions with beautiful, big and
lustrous eyes... And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they
desire. S. 52:17, 19, 20, 22 (see also 4:57; 76:12-22; 55:54-56; 47:15)
Even more astonishing is this
description:
"Surely for the godfearing
awaits a place of security, gardens and vineyards, and maidens of
swelling breasts (kawa'eb), like of age, and a cup overflowing."
S. 78:33 Arberry (see also Dawood, Rodwell)
Ibn Kathir, one of Islam's
premiere commentators, notes:
"Kawa'eb" -
"swelling and firm, not sagging." (Quoted in Women in Islam, p. 30)
To imagine that God would reveal
such a verse, wherein he would actually say that in paradise one will find
women who literally have firm breasts is incredulous.
The idea of having sexual
relations in Paradise has led some Muslims to interpret these passages
metaphorically. This in turn has prompted the assumption that the description
is merely a poetic attempt to describe that which is indescribable.
Unfortunately for these scholars,
Muhammad will not allow for such an interpretation. In Sahi Muslim, no. 6793
and 6794, we are told:
"In Paradise...every
person would have two wives (so beautiful) that the marrow of their
shanks would glimmer beneath the flesh and there would be none without a wife
in Paradise."
Notice, every person, which also includes the women!!!!
That is lesbianism in Allah’s Paradise.
According to Ibn Kathir's
commentary on S. 56:35-37, a Muslim will be given seventy specially
created females with two of his earthly wives, for a total of seventy-two
maidens in Paradise.
In Mishkat Al-Masabih, Muhammad
indicates: "The believer will be given such and such strength in
Paradise for sexual intercourse. It was questioned: O prophet of Allah! Can he
do that? He said: 'He will be given the strength of one hundred persons.'"
(Bk. IV, chp. XLII, Hadith no. 24; transmitted by Tirmizi who classified this
Hadith as sound)
Even more amazing is this
statement from Muhammad:
"The Prophet was asked: 'Do
we have sex in Paradise?' He answered: 'Yes, by him who holds my soul
in his hand, and it will be done dahman, dahman. And when it is finished
she will return pure and virgin again.'" (Ibn Kathir's commentary
on S. 56:35-37)
Kathir indicates that the word dahman means
intercourse done with such shove and disturbance. (Ibid.)
To say that this is incredulous
would be a wild understatement!
Christ's position in regards to
sexual activity in paradise is clearly seen in the following reference:
"Jesus said to them (the
Jews), 'The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, but those who are
accounted worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead
neither marry nor are given in marriage, for they cannot die anymore, because
they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.'"
Luke 20:34-36
This is Islam at it’s best. Free for all sex with women while the women get nothing!!! Why don’t you mention this to your reader
Osama? Now lets look at Song of Solomon
1:2-4-
2 Let him
kiss me with the kisses of his mouth-- for your love is more delightful than
wine.
3
Pleasing is the fragrance of your perfumes; your name is like perfume poured
out. No wonder the maidens love you!
4 Take me
away with you--let us hurry! Let the king bring me into his chambers. We
rejoice and delight in you [1]; we will praise your love more than wine. How
right they are to adore you!
1. 4 The
Hebrew is masculine singular.
What Osama doesn’t mention to the reader is that Solomon
was saying this to his wife!!! From
what I can remember, every person on this planet, except Christ, came as a
result of sexual intercourse. Maybe
Osama is a test tube baby!!! “Primarily
on the basis of the gender of the Hebrew pronouns used, male and female
speakers are indicated in the margins by the captions LOVER AND BELOVED, respectively.”
(Kolenberger III, John, The Interlinear NIV Hebrew- English Old Testament, pg.
591). These terms were used for
husbands and wives! What’s wrong with
sex between a husband and wife? Nothing,
since Muhammad even went to Hajj Allah to ask for permission to marry extra
ones!!! Of course we don’t see any
mention of this either.
Let us
look at Song of Songs1:7 "Tell me, you whom I love, where you graze your
flock and where you rest your sheep at midday. Why should I be like a veiled
woman beside the flocks of your friends?" Why should a woman cover up?
wouldn't this contradict 1Corinthians 11:13: "Judge in yourselves:
is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?"
This doesn’t contradict I Corinthians 11:13. Read I Corinthians 11:13-16-
13 Judge
for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head
uncovered?
14 Does
not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a
disgrace to him,
15 but
that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her
as a covering.
16 If
anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice--nor do
the churches of God.
This is talking about hair while Song of Solomon is talking
about A VIEL!!! Since when is hair the
same as a veil? I guess all the Muslims
that wear the veils on their faces (the women) must be wearing hair! Are they Osama? If we take your logic then
this must be the case.
Let us
look at Song of Songs 1:13 "My lover is to me a sachet of myrrh resting
between my breasts."
The lover was Solomon who was resting between is wife’s
breast, much like Osama’s prophet, Muhammad did after he got through raping the
9 year old Aisha!!! Once again sex
between a man and his wife is beautiful.
This is something Osama hates since the Quran in Surah 4 says to beat
the living daylights out of your wife instead of loving her. Now you know why Islam is popular among men
in prison, particularly rapists.
Let us
look at Song of Songs 1:16 "How handsome you are, my lover! Oh (ooooh),
how charming! And our bed [in love making] is verdant"
This is very charming, what’s wrong with complimenting
your husband? I guess Osama’s wife or
girlfriend curses at him and calls him ugly!!!
That must be the case since I find it strange that he hates women
complimenting their husbands.
Let us
look at Song of Songs 2:6 "His left arm is under my head, and his right
arm embraces me [Feeling her entire body?]."
Of course he is feeling her entire body, but what this
wasn’t sex. Read Song of Solomon 2:4-6-
4 He has taken me to the banquet hall, and his
banner over me is love.
5 Strengthen me with raisins, refresh me with apples, for
I am faint with love.
6 His left arm is under my head, and his right arm
embraces me.
He is embracing his wife while taking her to eat at the
banquet hall!!! This is very beautiful, unlike forcing your wife to look
like Darth Vader with the veil of Islam, as well as beating her like a
character off of Mortal Kombat!
Let us
look at Song of Songs 3:4 "Scarcely had I passed them when I found the one
my heart loves. I held him and would not let him go till I had brought him to
my mother's house, to the room of the one who conceived me [and we made
love]." So in other words, she was
not married to him, and when she found him, she took him back to her bedroom to
have illegal sex with him. If she were
married to him, she wouldn't take him to her "mother's house". She would take him to their house.
This is unbelievable!
Osama inserts the words “and we made love” to get the reader to believe
his argument. This is a very blatant
lie. “We made love” isn’t in any bible
on Earth. Also the Song of Solomon was
written for his wife. If we take
Osama’s logic on this, how could Solomon say this before they were married when
the events took place after they were married?
Also people who get married go and visit their mothers all the
time. Since Muslim men had so many
wives, the kids probably didn’t know who their mother was. Is this your problem Osama? If it is I’ll pray for you to have you
delivered from this great fiasco started by the illiterate prophet of Hajj
Allah.
Let us
look at Song of Songs 3:10 "Its posts he made of silver, its base of gold.
Its seat was upholstered with purple, its interior lovingly inlaid by the
daughters of Jerusalem [to sleep with all of them]." What kind of a religion is Christianity that
preaches such sexual values that teaches young men to spend all of their time
and effort to try to impress all of the girls in their town so they can end in
bed with them?
Look again dear reader, at the words “to sleep with all of
them”. How can Osama talk about
Pornography when the words like these aren’t even present in any bible on
earth! He added them purposely to make
the reader think that Solomon was talking about sleeping with all the women of
Jerusalem. Osama then attacks Christian
values by claiming that young men spend all their time trying to impress women
to sleep with them. Obviously this can
easily be refuted when we read vs. 3:9-11-
9 King
Solomon made for himself the carriage; he made it of wood from Lebanon.
10 Its
posts he made of silver, its base of gold. Its seat was upholstered with
purple, its interior lovingly inlaid by [1] the daughters of Jerusalem.
11 Come
out, you daughters of Zion, and look at King Solomon wearing the crown, the
crown with which his mother crowned him on the day of his wedding, the day his
heart rejoiced.
1. 10 Or
its inlaid interior a gift of love from
Hmm, very interesting, we see that Solomon’s posts of his
carriage was LOOKED upon by the daughters of Jerusalem and then the scriptures
tell us he is wearing his crown ON HIS WEDDING DAY! Solomon was going to meet his wife, something Osama didn’t want
us to know.
Let us
look at Song of Songs 4:5 "Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin
fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies."
Read vs. 4:1-7-
1 How beautiful
you are, my darling! Oh, how beautiful! Your eyes behind your veil are doves.
Your hair is like a flock of goats descending from Mount Gilead.
2 Your
teeth are like a flock of sheep just shorn, coming up from the washing. Each
has its twin; not one of them is alone.
3 Your
lips are like a scarlet ribbon; your mouth is lovely. Your temples behind your
veil are like the halves of a pomegranate.
4 Your
neck is like the tower of David, built with elegance; on it hang a thousand
shields, all of them shields of warriors.
5 Your
two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among
the lilies.
6 Until
the day breaks and the shadows flee, I will go to the mountain of myrrh and to
the hill of incense.
7 All
beautiful you are, my darling; there is no flaw in you.
Notice how Osama doesn’t post any content. Solomon was expressing his natural love and
affection for his wife. Something Osama
can’t understand due to the fact that Islam requires you to beat your wife and
then force her to veil herself like Darth Vader on Star Wars. Seems like the empire or “Islamic empire”
has struck back. Much like Muslim men must struck their wives in obedience to
the Quran in Surah 4.
Let us
look at Song of Songs 4:9 "You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride;
you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your
necklace." Fantasizing about his
sister? at least he shows in this verse that he would.
It’s hard to imagine that Osama thinks that Solomon’s wife
is his biological sister, since if you read it in context you find out that
Solomon’s wife wasn’t related to him at all.
Even the Quran uses terms like “Sister of Aaron” and “Brother of Hud”. Now if we use Osama’s logic in these cases,
then all of these tribes that followed Hajj Allah committed incest! For anybody who has sense and knows about
the Near East (something Osama doesn’t) knows that sister or brother could
refer to a female or male who isn’t related to the person. Even Osama called fellow Muslims brother
XXX, so this cheap accusation just won’t work.
Let us
look at Song of Songs 4:10 "How delightful is your love, my sister, my
bride! How much more pleasing is your love [in bed] than wine, and the
fragrance of your perfume than any spice!" Making love to his own sister?
Notice again that the words “in bed” isn’t present in any
bible on earth. Solomon here is talking
about his love for his wife again and not their experiences in bed. Osama then uses the phony words “in bed” to
build a argument about Solomon having sex with his sister. We’ve already discussed the “sister” deal
and now lets look at this matter. Osama
tries to paint the idea of “having” sex with his sister, etc” but dear reader,
the only book that you would first have learned about incest being wrong is the
bible!!! Osama wouldn’t even know if
incest was wrong if it wasn’t from the bible, which he is trying to
discredit. This is hilarious because
the Quran says nothing against incest which leads us to believe that anything
goes with the religion of Hajj Allah.
Let us
look at Song of Songs 4:12 "You are a garden locked up, my sister, my
bride; you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain."
We’ve discussed earlier about sister now lets look at
something. Osama is good at picking and
adding to verses but it’s intriguing how the words “my bride” is found in these
verses without him mentioning anything about it. The bible clearly shows that this was Solomon’s wife.
More on
the Penis' big sizes. Let us look
Ezekiel 16:26 "You engaged in prostitution with the Egyptians, your
lustful neighbors, and provoked me to anger with your increasing promiscuity
[increasing size of your penis that is]."
The Bible is big on talking about penises and their sizes.
Ha ha ha, this is a joke, Mr. Osama thinks that Penis is
in this verse. He doesn’t even know the Hebrew meaning of Penis so he added
words into this verse to make us think that pornography exist in it. Notice the
brackets. This has nothing at all to do with sex, and what Bible neophyte Osama
doesn’t tell us is that God is talking about the city of Jerusalem!!! Read
closely:
1 The
word of the LORD came to me:
2 "Son
of man, confront Jerusalem with her detestable practices
3 and
say, `This is what the Sovereign LORD says to Jerusalem: Your ancestry and
birth were in the land of the Canaanites; your father was an Amorite and your
mother a Hittite.
4 On the
day you were born your cord was not cut, nor were you washed with water to make
you clean, nor were you rubbed with salt or wrapped in cloths.
5 No one
looked on you with pity or had compassion enough to do any of these things for
you. Rather, you were thrown out into the open field, for on the day you were
born you were despised.
6 "`Then
I passed by and saw you kicking about in your blood, and as you lay there in
your blood I said to you, "Live!"
7 I made
you grow like a plant of the field. You grew up and developed and became the
most beautiful of jewels. Your breasts were formed and your hair grew, you who
were naked and bare.
8 "`Later
I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for
love, I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your nakedness. I
gave you my solemn oath and entered into a covenant with you, declares the
Sovereign LORD, and you became mine.
9 "`I
bathed you with water and washed the blood from you and put ointments on you.
10 I
clothed you with an embroidered dress and put leather sandals on you. I dressed
you in fine linen and covered you with costly garments.
11 I
adorned you with jewelry: I put bracelets on your arms and a necklace around
your neck,
12 and I put
a ring on your nose, earrings on your ears and a beautiful crown on your head.
13 So you
were adorned with gold and silver; your clothes were of fine linen and costly
fabric and embroidered cloth. Your food was fine flour, honey and olive oil. You
became very beautiful and rose to be a queen.
14 And
your fame spread among the nations on account of your beauty, because the
splendor I had given you made your beauty perfect, declares the Sovereign LORD.
15 "`But
you trusted in your beauty and used your fame to become a prostitute. You
lavished your favors on anyone who passed by and your beauty became his.
16 You
took some of your garments to make gaudy high places, where you carried on your
prostitution. Such things should not happen, nor should they ever occur.
17 You
also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver,
and you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them.
18 And
you took your embroidered clothes to put on them, and you offered my oil and
incense before them.
19 Also
the food I provided for you--the fine flour, olive oil and honey I gave you to
eat--you offered as fragrant incense before them. That is what happened,
declares the Sovereign LORD.
20 "`And
you took your sons and daughters whom you bore to me and sacrificed them as
food to the idols. Was your prostitution not enough?
21You
slaughtered my children and sacrificed them to the idols.
22 In
all your detestable practices and your prostitution you did not remember the
days of your youth, when you were naked and bare, kicking about in your blood.
23 "`Woe!
Woe to you, declares the Sovereign LORD. In addition to all your other
wickedness,
24 you
built a mound for yourself and made a lofty shrine in every public square.
25 At the
head of every street you built your lofty shrines and degraded your beauty,
offering your body with increasing promiscuity to anyone who passed by.
26 You
engaged in prostitution with the Egyptians, your lustful neighbors, and
provoked me to anger with your increasing promiscuity.
27 So
I stretched out my hand against you and reduced your territory; I gave you over
to the greed of your enemies, the daughters of the Philistines, who were
shocked by your lewd conduct.
This has nothing to do with sex at all, God is punishing
Jerusalem, by the hand of the Philistines, and he is so upset with Jerusalem
until he compares them to a prostitute!!!! Mr. Osama can’t show any true
pornography in the bible unless he adds words to the text and then post out of
context. We must ask Osama, this question, if you truly believe that Porn exist
in the Bible then how come you need to add words to it to make it appear this
way?
David
sexually fantasizes about Jonathan "I (David) grieve for you, Jonathan my
brother; you were very dear to me. Your
love for me was wonderful, more wonderful than that of woman. (2Samuel 1:21)" We all know that the love of a woman for a
man is sexual. If Jonathan's love was
even greater than a woman's, then David must have been gay; dreaming to have
anal sex with Jonathan. David is
supposed to be one of the Bible's holy figures. Talk about teaching kids good morals straight from the
Bible
and its Prophets.
David wasn’t Gay, Mr. Osama is gay and that is why I
believe he takes special pride in posting this scripture. If David loved
Jonathan sexually then the word in Hebrew for Love would be “'ahab”. This word’s 1st definition, when
not referring to God’s love, or love between man and God, means-human love for another, includes
family, and sexual.
However the word for love in 2 Samuel 1:21 is “ahabah”. The first and
foremost definition is-human love for human object, 1.of man toward man, 2.of
man toward himself. If Osama wanted to
prove that this was the case (about David) being gay then this word “ahab”, not
“ahabah” would’ve been used first and foremost. You have to go all the way to
the last definition of “ahabah” for it to mean sexual desire!!! This word is
virtually always used as a term to denote non-sexual love in Hebrew!!! Osama
basically is attacking Christianity from a paraphrased translation of the
English Bible!!!
David
watches a women bathe, likes what he sees, and "goes in unto
her." Let us look at 2Samuel
11:2-4 "One evening David got up
from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw
a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, and David sent someone to find
out about her. The man said, 'Isn't this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and
the wife of Uriah the Hittite?' Then
David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (She
had purified herself from her uncleanness.) Then she went back home." Again, this Holy Figure in the Bible is a
pervert!. Again, talk about teaching
kids morals straight from the Bible and it's Prophets.
In order for Osama to make this seem true, then surely he
would’ve posted some scriptures where God says that this was allowable. However
he can only make useless accusations, I guess he must to have forgot about what
Allah says about David.
2.251 By Allah's will they routed
them; and David slew Goliath; and Allah gave him power and wisdom and
taught him whatever (else) He willed. And did not Allah check one set
of people by means of another, the earth would indeed be full of mischief: But
Allah is full of bounty to all the worlds.
4.163 We have sent thee
inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent
inspiration to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job,
Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms.
5.78 Curses were pronounced
on those among the Children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the tongue of
David and of Jesus the son of Mary: because they disobeyed and
persisted in excesses.
6.84 We gave him Isaac and Jacob:
all (three) We guided: and before him, We guided Noah, and among his
progeny, David, Solomon, Job, Joseph, Moses, and Aaron: thus do We reward those
who do good:
We see that Allah even guided David so, if this were the
case, as the Quran claims then it wasn’t Satan (as shown in the Bible to
influence men to do wrong) that led David but it was Allah!!!! Read more:
17.55 And it is your Lord that
knoweth best all beings that are in the heavens and on earth: We made
some prophets to excel others: and We gave to David the Psalms.
21.78 And remember David
and Solomon, when they gave judgment in the matter of the field into
which the sheep of certain people had strayed by night: We did witness
their judgment.
21.79 To Solomon We inspired the
(right) understanding of the matter: to each (of them) We gave Judgment and
Knowledge; it was Our power that made the hills and the birds celebrate Our
praises with David: it was We Who did (all these things).
Oh, Allah says he sends his praises to David, so apparently
Allah didn’t have a problem with David and Bathsheeba, that should be
understandable, since from reading above, we already know how Perverted Hajj
Allah’s paradise is.
27.15 We gave knowledge to
David and Solomon: And they both said: "Praise be to Allah, Who
has favored us above many of His servants who believe!"
27.16 And Solomon was David's
heir. He said: "O ye people! We have been taught the speech of birds, and
we have been given of every thing: this is indeed Grace manifest (from
Allah.)"
34.10 We bestowed Grace
aforetime on David from Us: "O ye Mountains! Sing ye back the Praises
of Allah with him! and ye birds (also)! And We made the iron soft for him;-
34.13 They worked for him as he
desired, (making) arches, images, basons as large as wells, and (cooking)
cauldrons fixed (in their places): "Exercise thanks, sons of David! but
few of My servants are grateful!"
38.17 Have patience at what they
say, and remember Our servant David, the man of strength: for he ever
turned (in repentance to Allah).
Allah says in the Quran that David was a man of strength,
not homosexuality, or sin, and that he always turned to Allah in repentance. I
guess Quran neophyte Osama doesn’t even know about his own book!!
38.22 When they entered to David,
and he was terrified of them, they said: "Fear not: we are two disputants,
one of whom has wronged the other: decide now between us with truth, and treat
us not with injustice, but guide us to the even Path..
38.24 (David) said: "He has
undoubtedly wronged thee in demanding thy (single) ewe to be added to his
(flock of) ewes: truly many are the partners (in business) who wrong each
other: Not so do those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and how few
are they?"...and David gathered that We had tried him: he asked
forgiveness of his Lord, fell down, bowing (in prostration), and turned (to
Allah in repentance).
So apparently, Allah forgave David, so there is no more
sin, therefore, Osama is judging David when Allah already forgave him!!!!
38.26 O David! We did
indeed make thee a vicegerent on earth: so judge thou between men in truth (and
justice): nor follow thou the lust (of thy heart), for it will mislead thee
from the Path of Allah: for those who wander astray from the Path of
Allah, is a chastisement Grievous, for that they forget the Day of Account.
Again, The Quran says that David shouldn’t follow the lust
of the heart, but yet Allah tells him, to judge between men. Mr. Osama can you
please tell me why Allah is picking in your case a homosexual to judge men?
Surely you can answer this for us.
38.30 To David We gave Solomon
(for a son),- How excellent is the servant! Ever did he turn (to Us in
repentance)!
Also what Osama fells to post to the reader is 2 Samuel
11:27-
After the time of mourning was
over, David had her brought to his house, and she became his wife and bore him
a son. But the thing David had done displeased the LORD.
Hmm, if God loves perversion and pornography then how come
he was displeased with this? Maybe Osama can provide us with an answer for
this.
GOD
supposedly inspired King David's men to get some heat for King David by having a
beautiful virgin minister unto him. Let
us look at 1King1:1-4 "When King David was old and well advanced in years,
he could not keep warm even when they put covers over him. So his servants said to him, 'Let us look
for a young virgin to attend the king and take care of him. She can lie beside
him so that our lord the king may keep warm.'
Then they searched throughout Israel for a beautiful girl and found
Abishag, a Shunammite, and brought her to the king. The girl was very beautiful; she took care of the king and waited
on him, but the king had no intimate relations with her." Is the Bible a pornful man made book? or is
it an inspired Divine Book from GOD Almighty?
Did GOD Almighty inspire David's men to bring him a young virgin so he
can sleep with her without marriage?
What kind of morals are we teaching our kids here?
We don’t see anywhere where Yahweh told David’s men to
bring in the young virgin to sleep with David, this is the product of Osama’s
perverted homosexual mind. The Scripture clearly says that the young lady was
brought in order to keep King David warm. I guess Osama want’s Allah’s servant,
as mentioned in the Quran, to die!
Apparently he must not be a Muslim, but a Satanist!!! David couldn’t
stay warm by himself so in order to keep him alive the woman was needed. Mr.
Osama also makes himself look silly when he says “Did
GOD Almighty inspire David's men to bring him a young virgin so he can sleep
with her without marriage?” Ladies
and Gentleman this shows you that Osama doesn’t read because in the passage it
says in vs. 4 that-
The girl
was very beautiful; she took care of the king and waited on him, but the king had
no intimate relations with her.
Unbelievable, it’s amazing how Osama goes through great
trouble to show pornography in the Bible when he can’t even read the verses!!!!
Let us
look at Esther 2:2-4 "Then the king's personal attendants proposed, 'Let a
search be made for beautiful young virgins for the king. Let the king appoint commissioners in every
province of his realm to bring all these beautiful girls into the harem at the
citadel of Susa. Let them be placed under the care of Hegai, the king's eunuch,
who is in charge of the women; and let beauty treatments be given to them. Then let the girl who pleases the king be
queen instead of Vashti.' This advice appealed to the king, and he followed
it." So what we call today
illegal prostitution and sex according to the "laws of the Bible" is
actually allowed in the Bible? Here we
see that GOD Almighty in His Divine Book, the "Holy Bible", inspired
the King and his men to bring young bosomed virgins to sleep with the King, and
the best one of them would replace Vashti.
What kind of a low and cheap man made book the Bible really is?
The only thing cheap is this accusation, nowhere in Esther
is prostitution mentioned. Osama can’t show you a single scripture in this
passage that shows King Xerxes sleeping with anyone of these girls, so he has
to stoop to false accusations and assumptions. Read Esther 2:17-
Now the king
was attracted to Esther more than to any of the other women, and she won
his favor and approval more than any of the other virgins. So he set a royal
crown on her head and made her queen instead of Vashti.
We see that no mention of sexual activity, but instead as
Esther 2:2-4 says “whoever wins the favor of the King will be queen”. Esther
won the favor of Xerxes and then he put a crown on her head making her queen.
Great lesson to teach your kids, find a beautiful woman or man for the ladies,
and then have them win your favor and love and then MARRY THEM BEFORE
SLEEPING WITH THEM. These
morals are missing glaringly in the Quran, all we see if Muhammad going to Hajj
Allah to marry more women to satisfy is lust. I guess that is why his favorite
wife 9 year old Aisha was so pleasing to him.
Also notice dear reader that Osama didn’t mention anything about how if
the favor of the King were won, the lady would be queen. Any body can see this
if they read. The best Osama can do is add extra comments in to coerce the
reader in to believing what his homosexual mind wants them to believe.
Let us
look at Proverbs 7:18 "Come, let's drink deep of love [making] till
morning; let's enjoy ourselves with love [making....including
intercourse]!" Again, more on
teaching young kids how to be perverts and professionals in sexual intercourse
and sinning. Why is the Bible so big
on sex and sinning?
The bible isn’t big on sinning, Osama believes this
because he posts scriptures out of context. Lets see what the Bible says about
this issue in Proverbs 7:18-27:
18 Come,
let's drink deep of love till morning; let's enjoy ourselves with love!
19 My
husband is not at home; he has gone on a long journey.
20 He
took his purse filled with money and will not be home till full moon."
21 With
persuasive words she led him astray; she seduced him with her smooth talk.
22 All at
once he followed her like an ox going to the slaughter, like a deer stepping
into a noose
23 till
an arrow pierces his liver, like a bird darting into a snare, little knowing it
will cost him his life.
24 Now
then, my sons, listen to me; pay attention to what I say.
25 Do
not let your heart turn to her ways or stray into her paths.
26 Many
are the victims she has brought down; her slain are a mighty throng.
27 Her
house is a highway to the grave, leading down to the chambers of death.
We don’t see any mention of sexual intercourse, Osama flat
out lies and says that the bible promotes sin when verse 24-27 says that this
woman is evil, deceitful, and leads people to the grave!!! Then the Bible says
that “Do not let your hearts turn to her ways or stray into her paths.”
If this is telling us to sin the Osama must want it to say do all the things
with the woman, that is what he considers to be right!!!! Unbelievable!!!
Let us
look at 2 Samuel 12:11-12 "This is what the LORD Says: 'Out of your own
household I am going to bring calamity upon you. Before your very eyes I will take your wives and give them to
one who is close to you, and he will lie with your wives in broad
daylight. You did it in secret, but I
will do this thing in broad daylight before all Israel." How much value do women hold in the Bible?
This is also a joke, since God didn’t do this, read the
very next verse, 2 Samuel 12:13, that Osama doesn’t post.
Then
David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the LORD." Nathan
replied, "The LORD has taken away your sin. You are not going to die.
We see no such mention of God killing any women, I guess
Osama forgot about this verses in the Quran:
2.222 They ask thee
concerning women's courses. Say: They are a hurt and a pollution:
So keep away from women in their courses, and do not approach them until they
are clean. But when they have purified themselves, ye may approach them
as ordained for you by Allah. For Allah loves those who turn to Him
constantly; and He loves those who keep themselves pure and clean.
Apparently Hajj Allah tells men to stay away from women
when they are menstruating. He says that they are polluted!!! How can a woman
be polluted when every man had to come through a woman!!! When a baby is conceived,
usually the sperm fertilizes when an egg from a woman’s menstrual cycle
intersects it!!! That means that a woman is dirty and polluted as shown by Hajj
Allah, even though he supposedly created women to have babies!!! Also the verse
continues by saying that Allah loves those who keep themselves pure and clean,
In this case that means that Allah hates women when they are menstruating,
which shows us that he only loves them part of the month!! This is so embarrassing.
Here is more:
2.228 Divorced women shall wait
concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to
hide what Allah Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in Allah and
the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back
in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have
rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but
men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power,
Wise.
Hajj Allah says that the Husbands have the better right,
not the women, to take them back if they wish too, and then Hajj Allah says
that men have an advantage over the women!! I thought men and women were equal
in Islam!!! Apparently Hajj Allah doesn’t think so. Look at this silly
contradiction:
4.19 O ye who believe! Ye
are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them
with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower ye have given
them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary
live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a
dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about
through it a great deal of good.
Now read this:
4.34 Men are the protectors and
maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the
other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous
women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah
would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty
and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds,
beat them; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of
annoyance): For Allah is Most High, Great (above you all).
So is it kind to beat them? Hajj Allah thinks so. Also we see here that a woman who is only
obedient is good. What gives a person the right to beat his wife?
Let us
look at Song of Songs1:7 "Tell me, you whom I love, where you graze your
flock and where you rest your sheep at midday. Why should I be like a veiled
woman beside the flocks of your friends?" Why should a woman cover up?
wouldn't this contradict Matthew 5:29: "If your right eye causes
you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part
of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell." If sex and open sexuality is so big in the
Bible as I proved beyond the shadow of the doubt in this article, then wouldn't
this fully contradict Matthew 5:29?
Look at this ladies and gentlemen, Osama went and updated
his article, first he had I Corinthians 11:13, as shown up top, with these very
same words and then when he was made to look silly for seriously
misinterpreting the bible he went and changed it with Matthew 5:29. If Osama is
so confident in his argument then how come he has to constantly update his
articles when he sees my reply? Also
there is no contradiction present since adding words to the bible doesn’t
constitute pornography. His article is name “Pornography in the bible” not “Pornography
in the bible because of Osama’s added words in brackets”.
Sleeping
with his own sister: Let us look at Song of Songs 5:4 "I slept but my
heart was awake. Listen! My lover is knocking: 'Open to me, my sister, my
darling, my dove, my flawless one. My head is drenched with dew, my hair with
the dampness of the night.' I have
taken off my robe [showed off his groin in other words] must I put it on again?
I have washed my feet, must I soil them again?
My lover thrust his hand through the latch-opening [his sister's
vagina?!]; my heart began to pound for him." What a disgusting way for someone to talk so pervertedly about
his sister like that!!. Yet it's all in
the Bible.
We discussed the meaning of sister at the beginning of
this article, the word for sister in this verse is “'achowth”, when referring
to Solomon’s wife it always means his lover not physical sister. Mr. Osama claims to be from Palestine but
yet he seems to be ignorant of the fact that the Jews used the term brother and
sister to refer to their beloved (husbands) and lover (wives). I am utterly
shocked by Osama’s lack of knowledge of the Bible. In fact even the Quran acknowledges
this:
7.38 He will say: "Enter ye
in the company of the Peoples who passed away before you - men and Jinns, -
into the Fire." Every time a new People enters, it curses its
sister-People (that went before), until they follow each other, all into the
Fire. Saith the last about the first: "Our Lord! it is these that
misled us: so give them a double punishment in the Fire." He will say:
"Doubled for all" : but this ye do not know.
Since we clearly see here that sister means people, I
guess all these people who had sex in these cultures were either lesbians or hermaphrodites!!!
This isn’t anything shocking since
Allah himself is a hermaphrodite!!! Read this link for more information toward
the end: http://www.geocities.com/queball23/Allah.html. Here is more:
19.28 "O sister of
Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman
unchaste!"
This is even further proof from the Quran that sister in
the Near East was used as a normal term to refer to a woman, who wasn’t a
physical biological sister. If Osama disagrees then this clearly shows us then
that Mary was the physical sister of Aaron, who lived almost 1500 years before!!! Also the Bible doesn’t mention anywhere that
Solomon was opening someone’s vagina, Osama seems to confuse latch with vagina
in Hebrew!!! The word for that the NIV translates for latch is “Pathach”, this
word means- to open, a.(Qal) to open, b.(Niphal) to be opened, be let loose, be
thrown open, c.(Piel),1.to free, 2.to loosen, 3.to open, open oneself,
d.(Hithpael) to loose oneself.
Now how in the word can Solomon open up his supposed sister’s vagina,
when 1.) the word vagina is present in the text, and 2.) when this word means
to open or loose ONESELF, AND NOT SOMEONE ELSE!!!! Osama’s arguments are good for a cheap laugh and that’s it.
Let us
look at Song of Songs 5:8 "O daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you-- if you
find my lover, what will you tell him? Tell him I am faint with
love." Teaching women to be
sexually too open.
This isn’t teaching anybody to be open sexually, read what
the bible says in context
6 I
opened for my lover, but my lover had left; he was gone. My heart sank at his
departure. I looked for him but did not find him. I called him but he
did not answer.
7 The
watchmen found me as they made their rounds in the city. They beat me,
they bruised me; they took away my cloak, those watchmen of the walls!
8 O
daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you-- if you find my lover, what will you tell
him? Tell him I am faint with love.
How in the world is beating someone considered teaching
women to be openly sexual? I guess with Osama’s thinking, women getting beat is
sexually exciting. I guess the watchmen are supposed to beat Solomon’s wife in
private like the Quran says and that way it would be more acceptable, since
doing this in the open qualifies as being too openly sexual. Guess that is right huh Osama? Yes.
Let us
look at Song of Songs 6:6-7 "Your teeth are like a flock of sheep coming
up from the washing. Each has its twin, not one of them is alone. Your temples behind your veil [that's her
rear end in other words] are like the halves of a pomegranate."
Mr. Osama really shows his ignorance with this verse. He
claims that the ladies face is her rear end!!!! You don’t have temples on your
butt!!!! Nor do Jewish people were a
veil on their butt!!! The word for temples in Hebrew, that the NIV correctly
translates is “Raqqah”. The meaning of
this word is- temple, the temple (of the head). Mr. Osama can go and check this out in any
concordance or Hebrew dictionary. Infact he will probably come up with some
type of excuse, like he always does.
The
references for the following references Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9 were sent to
me by one of my best friends Faisal Azar who is a former Christian who embraced
Islam; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
"How
beautiful your sandaled feet, O prince's daughter! Your graceful legs are like
jewels, the work of a craftsman's hands.
Your
navel [according to Hebrew translation it is referring to the woman's
VAGINA. The English translators
substituted the word "NAVEL" WITH "VAGINA." This was mentioned on "Sex in the
Bible" on A&E TV Station. This
was sent to me by my dear brother Mike who embraced Islam just recently; may
Allah Almighty always be pleased with him] is a rounded goblet that never lacks
blended wine. Your waist is a mound of
wheat encircled by lilies.
Your
breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle.
Your
neck is like an ivory tower. Your eyes
are the pools of Heshbon by the gate of Bath Rabbi.
........
I said
'I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.' May your breasts be like the clusters of the
vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples, and your mouth like the best
wine. (The NIV Bible, Song of Songs
7:1-4, 8-9)"
Apparently Mr. Azar is more ignorant than Osama for
claiming this. Osama says that this was mentioned in “Sex in the Bible” on
A&E TV station. So one must asked this question, what date, program time,
and address can we inquire about to see this video? If this was such great evidence how come Osama doesn’t provide
any reference dates or TV. times? He’s probably never even seen this show! He claims that the English translators of
the Bible substituted the word NAVEL WITH VAGINA, well then lets see what the
Jewish translators said in these scriptures: Read Solomon 7:2-3 from the JPS
Bible located at this link: http://www.breslov.com/bible/Song_of_Songs7.htm#2
2 How
beautiful are thy steps in sandals, O prince's daughter! The roundings of thy
thighs are like the links of a chain, the work of the hands of a skilled
workman.
3 Thy navel is like a round goblet, wherein no mingled wine is wanting;
thy belly is like a heap of wheat set about with lilies.
This is very funny because the Jewish translators also
called it NAVEL. They can’t be accused of mistranslating this word because they
aren’t English translators. The reason
why both the English translators and the Jews translates this word as nave is
because in Hebrew it is “Shorer” and it means navel, umbilical cord.
Osama should take a note from Mr. Mohd and utilize Strong’s Concordance since
he strongly misinterprets the holy scripture.
Let us
look at Song of Songs 7:11 "Come, my lover, let us go to the countryside,
let us spend the night in the villages [and make love of course]."
Once again, we have established that Solomon’s lover is
his wife, therefore, there should be nothing wrong with making love to your
wife. Maybe if Osama could get a woman
he wouldn’t be so angry at this beautiful love story.
Let us
look at Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like a brother, who
was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss
you, and no one would despise me. I
would lead you and bring you to my mother's house-- she who has taught me. I
would give you spiced wine to drink, the nectar of my pomegranates. His left arm is under my head and his right
arm embraces me [feeling her entire body, and then of course make love-
intercourse with his VERY OWN SISTER]."
So she would sleep with her own brother, and he would sleep with his own
sister (see Song of Songs 4:9-12).
Notice the word “LIKE” present here, this word means that
Solomon’s wife is metaphorically speaking of him being like her brother THAT
WAS NURSED AT HER MOTHER’S BREAST. How can she sleep with her brother when he
is a baby nursing at his mother’s breast? We’ll leave that for Osama to answer
for us, since he is great at concocting stories, much like Muhammad and the
fairytales in the Quran!!!
Comparing
sisters' breasts and brothers' penises to the size of a tower
Let us
look at the following verses: "We
have a young sister, and her breasts are not yet grown. What shall we do for
our sister for the day she is spoken for?
(Song of Songs 8:8)" and
later about the sister....."I am a wall, and my breasts are like towers.
Thus I have become in his eyes like one bringing contentment. (Song of Songs 8:10)" Good thing that the Bible didn't compare the
size of men's penis' with a tower as it did compare men's penis' with horses'
(see Ezekiel 23:20). It's quite clear that
the Bible encourages sisters to compare the size of their brothers' penises to
towers. Think about it, if I say your
face is beautiful, then wouldn't this open the door for you to say something
beautiful about me too?
We don’t even see the word Penis in either of these
verses, Osama must be dyslexic and can’t see straight!!! How else can you explain how a person
mistakes words for penises!!! First he contradicts himself by saying the bible
compares men’s penis to the size of a tower and then he says that “Good thing that the Bible didn't compare the size of
men's penis' with a tower as it did compare men's penis' with horses”
Then he further contradicts himself by saying: “It's
quite clear that the Bible encourages sisters to compare the size of their
brothers' penises to towers”. Which
one is it Osama? First you said the bible tells you to compare, then not to
compare and the finally compare? Ladies and gentlemen, Osama can’t even get his
words correct in trying to refute the Bible. This shows us clearly that he
follows the example of Hajj Allah, who has to abrogate and Substitute because
he can’t make up his mind either. Read:
2.106 None of Our revelations do
We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better
or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?
Now if Allah was all powerful, why the need to substitute
and bring something in better or similar, can’t get it right the first time? Yes!!!
Much like Osama can’t even get his own words right.
Since
the Bible is big on talking about how BIG and POWERFUL men's penises are in
Ezekiel 23:20, and is big about having brothers talk about how BIG in size
their sisters' breasts are, then wouldn't this encourage sisters to compare the
size of their brothers' penises to towers too?
The bible mentions no such thing, the word for genitals in
this scripture is “ereev meen”. The word
here in Hebrew is Basar, which means flesh. This was discussed at the beginning
of this article.
It is
quite amazing that the Bible has such porn in it. I really don't know what more to say about such book.
Osama said it perfectly, notice the part “I really don’t
know what more to say about such book”.
Sure he doesn’t since he had to add words in to make his flawed idea of
Pornography be in the bible. If I did
this with the Quran, I would immediately be called a liar but it seems like
Osama loves to do this with the Bible. What is he? A liar personified.
Is this
what the Holy Book of GOD should really contain?
No, it doesn’t contain this since we clearly have seen
that Osama added words and comments to the text, which doesn’t exist in the
Bible. He comes up with this bogus claim about “debate me from the NIV Bible”
when he doesn’t even use the text without adding words to it!!! Tell me Osama
since when have your words been part of the NIV Bible? They never have and they
never will.
Is this
really from GOD? You judge for
yourself.
It is, however your added words aren’t so we careless
about your phony claims of pornography in the bible.
Does
the Bible allow for women to be Lesbians?
Let us
look at Leviticus 20:13: "`If a man lies with a man as one lies with a
woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death;
their blood will be on their own heads."
The Bible here punishes to death those males who have anal sex.
But
however, there is no mention throughout the Bible about punishing Lesbian
women!.
This is also a flawed argument since the Quran mentions
the same thing!!! Read:
4.16 If two men among you
are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend,
leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful.
That homosexuality must be
treated as a crime in a Moslem State is evident from the story of Lot and his
people. Verse IV. 16 says: “If two men
commit indecency punish them both; if the repent and mend their ways, let them
be.” In this case NO SPECIAL PENALTY HAS BEEN PRESCRIBED. (Sherif,
Faruq, A Guide to the Contents of the Quran, pg. 214; Garnet publishing,
printed in Lebanon, 1998)
This book is the only kind available that details the
contents of the Quran and it was written in Lebanon, a Muslim country!!! We don’t
even see no punishment for homosexuality in the Quran, nor do we see anywhere
in which women are mentioned either, which shows us that Allah allows
lesbianism. The word for man in Leviticus is “ish”, it’s first and foremost
definition means man but it also can mean a human being also. Osama also lies
with claiming that the Bible doesn’t mention anything about lesbianism. Read Leviticus
18:17-18
17"`Do
not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do not
have sexual relations with either her son's daughter or her daughter's
daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.
18"`Do
not take your wife's sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations
with her while your wife is living.
These are just a few examples, for Osama to base the word
man just being man is fallible since Hajj Allah put it the same way in the
Quran!!! Muslim scholars recognize the above Surah to refer to all
homosexuality, male or female, so therefore if we take Osama’s logic then he
infact have just proven that the Quran doesn’t account for lesbianism.
Let us
look at the following two examples:
Leviticus
20:15 "IF A MAN has sexual relations with an animal, he must
be put to death, and you must kill the animal."
Leviticus
20:16 "IF A WOMAN approaches an animal to have sexual relations with
it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death;
their blood will be on their own heads."
Notice
in the above two verses that the man has to get caught having sex with an
animal in order for him to be put to death, while the woman does not
necessarily have to get caught having sex with an animal. If she only looks suspicious then she would still
be put to death, while the man has to be caught doing it.
This is also false since the scripture clearly says
if WOMAN approaches an animal TO HAVE
SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH IT!!! Verse 15 says IF A MAN HAS SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH AN
ANIMAL!!! The word for look isn’t present in this verse at all, nor can Osama
try and hide what the scripture clearly says about both men and women having sex
with an animal. Just look at the highlighted parts of Osama’s arguments in his
post to see just how foolish he tries to ignore them. The bible mentions
nothing about putting women to death for suspiciously looking at an animal.
Osama is dyslexic so it’s hard for him to read straight. Or he is just lying.
Personally, I believe it’s a combination of both.
The
point is, we can't apply Leviticus 20:13 above to Lesbians, because it only
talks about male gays practicing anal sex.
Therefore,
the Bible does allow for women to be Lesbians.
Since this is the case as he claims then Osama has just
proven the Quran wrong too, since he can’t find a single verse talking about lesbianism
or even close to it, like we can in the Bible.
Conclusion
The
above verses talk about porn and raping very openly. They also talk about how round and tasty the women's breasts and vaginas
are. If women are sex objects in the
Bible, then how is that supposed to be respectful to women? and what kind of a GOD
that would talk about porn this openly in the Bible? The Bible also allows for brothers to sleep with their sisters
and vise versa and for women to be Lesbians.
It is quite obvious that the Bible is man made corruption and not the
true Living Word of
GOD Almighty.
Would
you trust your own little kid to read the Bible privately?
These verses mention no such thing, Osama takes Song of
Solomon, which was written for his wife and then claims that love between a
husband and wife is pornography and then he adds words to the bible and finally
he claims that it talks about penises and vaginas!! He doesn’t even know what the
word vagina is in Hebrew, which is why I am wondering why he hasn’t yet posted
it on his site!!!
Here is Osama’s words at the beginning of his site:
(Just
for those folks who misunderstood me, I love Christians and I have nothing
against them).
This is very funny because look at this post that he
posted about Christians on idjnet. My reader don’t be to offended, but people
who don’t have God are capable of language like this. One of his messages to
other Christians on Idjnet, including myself, Quennel Gale is called LEAVE THIS
BOARD YOU FUCKEN CHRISTIANS:
Osama
Abdallah wrote:
-------------------------------
Hey
Christians, this is not a Chrisitan chat room.
Not it is a comparative religious studies one!!!
This is
simply an Islamic chat room. Christians
here such as Quennel Gale, Muhammad Ibn Elohim, Lori and Nick come and post
their Christian irrelevant information in here.
You are
guys are the biggest vandulists and the biggest assholes I've ever seen!!!.
It's
not like we go to your Christian boards and post our Islamic information
there!!!.
As you
can see, the Muslims here only come here.
It is you who herrase us where ever we go.
Does
you Bible allow you to be a vandulist?
I don't think so.
Get the
hell out of this board and quit posting your Christian crap.
Osama
Abdallah
Mr. Osama obviously hates Christians, the idjnet board is
a Muslim-Christian dialogue and both religions have a right to be on it. It
isn’t a Islamic chat room, it is for all faiths that want to discuss things.
Now lets look at Osama’s reason for the purpose of his site. This is very
interesting:
As'salamu
Alaikum Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh (God's peace, mercy and blessings be upon
you) and upon your families as well
Due to
a number of misunderstandings that happened by some of the Christian readers, I
would like to identify the purpose of why I created this web site. When I came
to the U.S. in 1988, I didn't know anything about Christianity. I was born and raised as a Muslim in the
Middle East. When I became involved in
the internet and surfed it quite a lot, I came across so many ANTI-ISLAMIC web
sites that were posted by Christians who were mostly Arab Christians. There are only 1.5 million Muslims in the
Entire United States of America, and I found it to be very disturbing that the
internet has so much ANTI-ISLAMIC sites against us. I felt that everyone was ganging up on us.
Now if Osama claims that Christians are ganging up on him,
how come the majority of the Christian websites out on the net don’t care
anything about Islam nor discuss it? Most talk about the end times, finding
Jesus as your savior as well as bible study. So this is a paranoid idea made
and propagated by Osama himself.
Now, I
hope you would understand my position and intentions very well here. After I became very disturbed by the
overwhelming majority of Christians putting down my religion in the U.S., I
decided to take it upon myself and to defend my religion with the best of my
ability. I think any loyal, good, and
faithful person to his religion and people would do what I did. I didn't come to the U.S. to battle Christians
nor I ever thought about the religion of Christianity when I was back home. I found myself thrown into this battle of
religions here and I had no choice. The
last thing I wanted to happen is to see our young Muslim brothers and sisters
who are born here in the U.S. get too effected by the religion of Christianity
that its followers who try to force it upon them through the internet and the
media and have them convert without knowing the real truth about both
religions: Islam and Christianity.
Now if he was so disturbed how come he came to the U.S.
which is a Christian country? In Saudi
Arabia and other Islamic countries Christians aren’t even allowed to enter the
country just because they are Christian. It’s a joke to see a Muslim ask for
civil rights when they themselves don’t want you in their country. He did try to defend Islam the best way he
could, even by falsely inserting words into the bible as we seen from this
paper and then building false arguments as well as cursing Christians out. The Muslims here in the U.S. aren’t affected
by the Christians. The U.S. was builded
upon Christian principles, the only reason why the mosques here in the U.S. are
still standing is because we Christians allow them too due to the fact that we
allow freedom of religion, something the Arabs in Arabia don’t. Also there are many Islamic sites that try
and force Islam upon Christians, even here in Chicago, you see Muslims getting
on the train passing out pamphlets and preaching telling you to come to Islam
so please spare us Osama.
I wanted
to expose Christianity to them and to show them that the Bible is not the book
that teaches freedom of speech and choice as the Americans and the Westerners
think. I also wanted to expose to them
that the Bible doesn't respect women, since Islam is always attacked from the
issue of women. I wanted to prove to as
many Muslim brothers and sisters as possible that Jesus is not and can not be
God nor ever claimed to be God. I also
wanted to prove to them that Islam is a beautiful religion and a religion of
love and peace and not a religion of hatred as the West always tries to picture
it to be.
Now this is his great purpose, to expose Christianity? He
claims that the Bible doesn’t respect women when Surah 4 in the Quran tells you
to beat them? Such hypocrisy. He said
he wanted to prove that Jesus wasn’t God and cannot be God? Why because he said
so? Look at these claims and see if Jesus really did claim to be God from the
Bible. Read:
John 10:31-33:
30 I and the Father are
one."
31 Again the Jews picked up
stones to stone him,
32 but Jesus said to them,
"I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these
do you stone me?"
33 "We are not stoning you
for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy,
because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
Jesus himself said this and they
stoned him. So for Osama to say that Jesus wasn’t God because of this matter is
fallible since Jesus claimed to be both a servant and God.
Mr. Osama must not know about
John 5:17-18 –“But Jesus answered them, My father has been working until now,
and I have been working. Therefore
the Jews sought all the more to kill him because he not only broke the Sabbath
but also said that God was HIS FATHER, making himself EQUAL WITH GOD.” Literally, “His own Father” Greek- patera
idion. It is clear that the Jews
understood that Jesus was claiming to be God.’” (NKJV, footnote, pg
843, Scoffield, 1989).
There are many more of these examples shown at http://www.geocities.com/queball23/Answering-Osama.html
located at
http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/
If you wonder
why I created www.answering-christianity.com, well that's because a group of
anti-Islamics had created a site called www.answering-islam.org. Those same people also own
www.answering-christianity.org. The
reason why they occupied www.answering-christianity.org and didn't put any
webpage on that site is because they wanted the Muslims to think that no Muslim
cares about responding to their claims in www.answering-islam.org, which they
thought that by this lie they will be able to deceive as many Muslims as
possible and convert them to their serious errors and alterations.
Nobody on answering Islam is trying to deceive anybody,
just look at the fake words inserted by Osama in pornography in the Bible and
you will get a good taste of lies and deceit.
I think
that the owners of www.answering-islam.org are big hypocrites and big liars
!. If they really consider themselves
good and truthful Christians as they claim on their site, then they shouldn't
have played this dirty tricks on the Muslims by stealing the site that we
deserve, and not let anyone know that they own it. Visit http://www.networksolutions.com to see who owns what site
if you don't believe me.
Thank
you and God bless you !
In
Islam
Osama
Abdallah
Last I heard when you beat someone to a site, it isn’t
theft! It was just called getting their first. Nobody plays trick on anybody,
because you felt like you deserved something doesn’t mean that it’s stealing
because you didn’t get it. He believes that anything that exposes Islam is a
lie. He wants Christians to be truthful and fair but Osama doesn’t talk about
the deceit in his articles and his hatred for Christians. Read more of the post
he posted on Idjnet awhile back. As you can see this is the same message but
under a different name, he named them FUCK YOU AND FUCK ALL CHRISTIANS WITH YOU
!!!!!, FUCK ALL VANDULIST CHRISTIANS AND FUCK ALL CHRISTN, and more.
Osama
Abdallah wrote:
-------------------------------
Hey
Christians, this is not a Chrisitan chat room.
Not it is a comparative religious studies one!!!
This is
simply an Islamic chat room. Christians
here such as Quennel Gale, Muhammad Ibn Elohim, Lori and Nick come and post
their Christian irrelevant information in here.
You are
guys are the biggest vandulists and the biggest assholes I've ever seen!!!.
It's
not like we go to your Christian boards and post our Islamic information
there!!!.
As you
can see, the Muslims here only come here.
It is you who herrase us where ever we go.
Does
you Bible allow you to be a vandulist?
I don't think so.
Get the
hell out of this board and quit posting your Christian crap.
Osama
Abdallah
To show you just how Osama hates me particularly read this
about me, (note I’m African American):
The title is “Even the smelly Niger speaks. Where are the
whites”
Osama
Abdallah wrote:
-------------------------------
Quennel,
at least it wasn't us who shuffed the long sticks in your niger ass. It was the Christian whites.
Even until
today, a niger like you is prohibited from entering some churches.
This
doesn't exist among Muslims.
But a
niger is a niger no matter how much you teach him, unless he converts to Islam.
Osama
Abdallah
These messages were found on the Idjnet board and they
were posted many times by a obvious demented man tormented by Satan. What Osama
seems to forget is that most Muslims are of African descent and they would be
very offended by an Arab calling them names like this. Also an Arab is the
descendent of Hagar a Black Egyptian so Osama is also insulting his own Arab
race. Does this sound like a man who loves Christians and has nothing against
them? Please! I will have more information on answering the Porn in the Bible
at a later date, if anybody wants to see the messages on idjnet for themselves
the can email me at queball23@yahoo.com
and I will send them the link. Ladies and gentlemen Muslims make these
accusations like these who hate Christ, who hate Christians and do their best
to discredit the Bible. God said that
there will be false prophets, men who hate God and men who hate Christ. Osama
is one such man.
Here are some comments from one of the writers from
answering Islam on Osama as well as some of my articles:
Great job!
Please tell Jochen at
Answering-Islam about your articles so that he can link to them. Keep up the good work, ignore the insults
and slurs, and may God Bless you,
P.S. I wonder if Osama realizes that "Niger" is a
country in Northwestern Africa?
When I was a child, my parents taught me that bigotry was the result
of our fallen human nature and of ignorance.
Sadly, Osama's outbursts confirm this.
Andrew Vargo
Here is more from a friend in Christ who just happened to
click on:
Quennel,
As a brother in Christ I just
wanted to say thank you for the marvelous work you're doing on the Answering Islam
site, as well as the page you put together on answering pornography.
I was totally unaware of Islam
and its practices about 6 months ago, until I encountered someone who offended me
greatly. His claims about Christianity caused me to begin to explore the Bible
in even greater detail. I have bought many books just to research things for myself.
The Lord has led me to your site and it has been a wonderful blessing. My faith
has even been strengthened more by the combination of your site and my extra
reading.
The person I refer to is as
vile and disgusting as Osama, and I really believe he has already been given over
to a reprobate mind and is demonic. He goes to extreme lengths to discredit
Christ, the Bible and Christianity. At times, I burn with rage at his claims and
now I realize how David must have felt when he faced the uncircumcised
Philistine. He is very similar to Osama in his approach and at times even
parrots the same arguments.
Anyway, I just wanted to say
thanks and keep up the good work. May God richly bless you.
Eddie
I wonder would Osama try to hide and then repost this same
material again without showing his reader who he is rebuttaling. He is good at hiding and then claiming that
no one answered him. Unlike him I’m not
scared to link my material to his, since I know that he can’t legitimately answer
it.
Osama’s pornography link is http://www.answering-christianity.com/x_rated.htm