Is 'ALLAH' the "Divine Name" For God?

It is wrong and false to claim that Allah is a synonym for God, when the word in Arabic is "ILAH" which correctly derives from the root word "alaha" to deify. If Menj believes etymologically that "Allah" is somehow related to "Elohim" which literally means "gods" then what is the root word for Allah? There is none in Arabic.

That fact is exactly true, there is nowhere in the Bible in which God says that his name is Allah. What Muslims tend to do is go to the Arabic translation of the Bible and then say that because "Allah" is used for "God" that it is okay to call God by this name. The problem with this fact is that God's name isn't God. Nor does the word Allah mean God in Arabic anyway. Allah is a personal name of a deity and to take that personal name and make it a common adjective is the equivalent of this example:

Ben is man. Here we see that Ben is a man so using the Musliim propogation technique we can now say:

Man is Ben. The problem with this is that if you use this method, then everytime you intend to use the word "man" you would have to say Ben.

The above example clearly shows how incorrect it is to take a personal name and apply it to the term it describes, in the case of Ben, we are describing a man. In the case of Allah we are describing God. If Menj's theories are accurate, how come he didn't post any Arabic proof, showing that Allah is a general term for God? The answer is simple, you don't use "Allah" as a term for God anyway in Arabic. The Arabic language only has one word for deity and that word for god or "GOD" is ILAH.

Here Menj attempts to use this verse as an excuse for Muslims to call God whatever name they chose, hence Allah. The problem with this conclusion is that if you call Allah whatever name you can then we can call him:

So Menj just showed us that Allah can be called any type a name a person wants to call him. Also notice that Menj said:

Menj claims that this is Muhammad's response to the Jews of Madinah about the name of God. However the content shows no such thing as he eloquently claims. We review Surah 17:4-11 for more detail:

This verse has no reference whatsoever to the Jews of Madinah, as Menj errorneously claimed. The last reference to the Children of Israel is in verse 104. The next verses talk about how the Quran was sent down and how the Muslims who believed in it prostrated themselves in humility. In Islamic history there is nowhere in which the Jews prostrated in humility at Muhammad's false message. Menj intentionally lied to his audience in his desperate attempts to legitamize his pagan god!! This passage, in reference to the Jews, has nothing to do with Muhammad's contemporary time!!

1. It says: "Dwell securely in the land (of promise)"

The only way this can refer to the Jews of Muhammad's time was if they were back during the Exodus, when God lead them out of Egypt. Arabia wasn't the land of promise for the Jews it was Palestine!! According to Menj's fallicious reasoning we must conclude that Muhammad lived during the Exodus!! Also lets analyze verse 110 in more detail to see if what Menj claims is true about it:

1. This verse says call upon Allah or call upon Rahman.
2. The "whatever name" refers to these two names only.
3. "Most Beautiful Names" refers to the 99 names of Allah.

Conclusion: This verse doesn't address Jewish accusations of the divine name and it is circular because

1. The Quran has already stated that Allah is the name of God, hence Menj didn't verify its authenticity other than quoting the Quran.
2. Menj didn't elaborate on the fact that the beautiful names are the 99 names of Allah. A deity alreay assumed to the name of God. He didn't verify his first point in the first place-namely that the reason for using Allah is to call God by whatever name you chose.

Menj's challenge failed miserably and for an added note, this Surah wasn't revealed in reference to the Jews in Madinah, read:

This Surah didn't even take place in Medina, as Menj errorneously claimed!!! So we see clearly see that:

1. Menj lied about this verse being a response to the Jews of Muhammad's time
2. By using circular reasoning Menj still failed to prove that Allah was a legitamate name for the Bible God.

3. None of Menj's claims were true since this surah wasn't even revealed in Medina but Mecca and the Jews discussed, in the passage, lived long before the time of Muhammad.

The problem with this conclusion about Allah being a valid name, from the misinterpretation of this verse, is that the Quran says that what Muhammad preached was the same message of previous prophets before him:

According to the Quran we see that Muhammad's message is:

1. A VERIFICATION of the Torah and Gospel
2. A VERIFICATION of the book of Moses in Arabic tongue
3. The SCRIPTURES OF MEN OF OLD in Plain Arabic Speech.

The problem that immediately arises is the fact that God's name in previous scripture was never called "Allah"! For Allah to be an accepted name it has to be either a transliteraton of the name YHWH or a synonym based on accepted language structure or translation. If the Quran claims that it verifies the same message in Arabic then it would make sense for Allah to at least be the synonym of the personal name of God from previous revelations. It is neither, which explains why Menj had to appeal to the Quran to claim that Allah is a legitamate name for God. However this is the fallacy of begging the question in which Menj has assumed what he has yet to prove. Lets illustrate Menj's fallacy for you:

Using the Quran doesn't verify that God's personal name is Allah, if it claims that it verifies previous scripture. This is a very clear contradiction that simply can't be overlooked or dismissed. And if Menj claims otherwise, which he is notorious at doing then all he proven is that he can only argue using fallacious circular reasoning. He can't say that:

1. The Bible is corrupted and that people removed the name "Allah". What would be the purpose of doing this in the first place?
2. The New Testament doesn't use the name YHWH. The reason why is because by that time the name was so sacred and pronounced with the word "LORD" out of total reverence.

If the Quran claims to verify previous scripture, then we should expect every prophet before Muhammad to call God's name "Allah". Lets show you what the Bible says God's name is:

Do you see anywhere in which Allah is used as a name for God? Didn't God say that his name was YHWH not Allah in previous scripture? Yes. Also look at the Arabic translation of the verse:

Note the terms "bi-‘ismiy yahwah" in Exodus 6:3. Do you see "bi-‘ismiy Allah"? No. So if the Quran is verification of previous scripture in Arabic language then this is clear proof that Muhammad named God for the pagan high deity of his people. This also explains to you why Menj and the likes of him don't post scriptures telling you what God's name is from the Arabic Bible. If he is so sure of his etymological evidence how come he can't just show you a verse which says that God's name is Allah in the Arabic Bible? Now look at the New Testament verse of Matt 22:44

Note how the Arabic Bible in the New Testament uses "arrabb" as a synonym for YHWH in Hebrew. Why isn't Allah present if it is a legitamate name? If Muslims, such as Menj, claim that Allah is so well known how come the only place we hear about him is from pagan Arab tribes and Islam? Even if you translate Allah as a term to be God then what is God's name? The Arabic Bible never even uses this word as a name for God.

If Muhammad was smart enough he would have obeyed this verse above. Doing so would clearly prove that he was calling God the wrong name, while his Modern day Muslim apologists struggle to legitamize his error.

The word for God in Arabic would be ILAH, not Allah. By stating that the very first word in Genesis is Elohim doesn't prove Menj's point. Lets illustrate for you in detail:

1. According to Menj's evidence Elohim is God. Allah doesn't mean God in Arabic, hence Allah can't be equated to Elohim
2. Elohim isn't the name of God anway, so if Menj proves that Elohim is related to Allah he would also prove that Allah isnt' God's name!!
3. Can Menj show you a single reference in which the Bible says that God's name is "GOD" or is it that YHWH was always used to describe Elohim.

Elohim is just a word used to describe YHWH along with other gods in general. Elohim can refer to the true god or false gods. It is no difference than the term "Man" which can refer to Ben or any other man. After all his manipulation Menj winds up contradicting himself and his Quran. Lets note the contradiction:

If Allah is a name while Elohim isn't, how can Allah be Elohim? Logically we must conclude that every word, as shown in Genesis 1:1 must be a name! So when Elohim refers to gods such as Baal would Menj now conclude that Elohim is Allah in this aspect also? If he says no then he isn't using Allah the correct way since "God" or "god" can refer to any deity.

On Menj's link about "the word Elohim" he gives several Hebrew translation verses of the Arabic Quran. What is very striking to note is the fact that the word Allah is never transliterated, like in other versions of the Quran. We present this evidence for you, from various translations of the Quran:

Notice that these various translations of the Quran keep "Allah" as a transliteration of its Arabic counter part. They don't translate this word into a general form for "God" since this would be incorrect. If all Quranic translators knew for a fact that Allah was indeed the word for "God" or "god" then we should clearly see evidence of this outside of mere English translations. One thing that is very important to note is "Why are these translations all rendered with Allah while the Hebrew translation is rendered with Elohim instead of the Same word?" Did you know that the word Allah is in Hebrew also and it means Oaktree. Here is information on the transliteration of Allah:

Menj clearly mentiones that Hebrew and Arabic are sister languages however his inability to answer the question as to why Allah in the Hebrew Bible, is oak, leads him to conclude that we have committed the fallacy of equivocation. While trying to prove that Elohim is Allah, Menj is fine saying that these two languages are related and sister languages since it would look very good to his reading audience. But if Hebrew and Arabic are sister languages, what makes him think that the exact word in Hebrew "Allah"-- related to the exact word in Arabic "Allah" shouldn't match? Even though it is the exact etymological cognate? It is because it destroys his shaky theory of trying to relate Allah to Elohim.

Like many other fruitless Muslim apologists, Menj loves to apply rational thinking in defense of Islam. His total argument is based on the assumption that Allah is somehow etymologically related to Elohim. In proceeding to proving this particular theory he appeals to using the Hebrew Bible and related concordances. Here is the illustration of the Fallacy of equivocation:

As you see from the definition of what the fallacy of equivocation is, it clearly consist of "using the same word with two different meanings". The problem is that Allah in Hebrew can only be classified under this fallacy if the word Allah meant "God" in the Hebrew language. Menj has confused the topic purposedly in trying to imply that we are saying that Allaah in Hebrew is calling the Islamic God an oak tree.

Menj's entire position rest upon the fact that he is doing the same thing above---mainly trying to equate Allah to Elohim based on sounds fitting with this preconceived notion below:

The problem is that the closest etymological evidence to Allah in Arabic is "Allah" in Hebrew which means oaktree. Menj doesn't want to face the facts because it destroys his linkage to Allah being Elohim. His use of Vine's dictionary is wrong too since anyone who reads Arabic knows that "God" or "god" is never Allah but always "ilah" or a form of this word only.

Even if you transliterate "OAK" in Hebrew to Arabic it would be the same word as the Quran God. Whether this proves that Allah is an oak or not isn't what we are discussing since words that etymologically linked to each other rarely mean the same thing in different languages anyway. We just wanted to expose those Muslim apologists that try to link a word, that doesn't mean God or god, such as "Allah", to Hebrew words for God, Elohim, El., etc., just because they simply believe that Allah is God based on Muhammad's self proclaimations.

Menj also lies about the so-called fallacy since we never said that the arabic Allah is oaktree. Al Gharib states it best by saying:

The case is clear. Menj is trying to find Hebrew proof for Allah. The word Allah in Hebrew is the same exact word. This word just happens to mean oak. If he tries to ignore this fact then he isn't using etymology at all. You can't etymologically reject any related word from another language because it has different meanings. If this was the case then there would be no need for etymology. You can't overlook this word and try to proceed into speculative theories trying to make Elohim part of Allah.

This word "allah' in Hebrew is the exact same word in Arabic. 100% while Menj is trying to include a non-related word "Elohim" to Allah. Allah doesn't mean God in Arabic. It is a personal name not a common adjective. In etymology when you find the exact cognate or the closest to it, then the case is settled. You don't reject the etymological cognate because it means something different. Such actions are absurd and only exposes the searcher as being Biased.

It becomes clear that Menj's source for being etymological is none other than what the Quran says about Allah as being a name. This is religious not etymological evidence. If Muhammad and Allah wanted to make the word "Allah" a common word instead of a proper name why didn't they use any examples in their holy book? Lets illustrate Menj's argument:

With his great theory and Vine's error on Allah being related to Elohim, Menj doesn't tell us what we are supposed to do with the "heh yod mem" of Elohim or the "lam ha" of Allah. So do we start eliminating letters or do "heh yod mem" change to "lam ha"? By accepting Menj's strange logic we can now start changing and eliminating letters just to make words equal each other. If Menj is trying to compare the AL (Alef Lamed/Lam) for both words this would be equivalent of comparing:

So "THE" in Arabic equals "God" in Hebrew? If Menj is trying to compare the ALH of both words then he would self refute himself since "ALLAH", oak in Hebrew comes from this very same root also and again transliterated in Arabic is the exact 100% equivalent. But then again since this doesn't agree with Menj's misinformation it must not be true right? ALH in Hebrew can be a variety of words, so according to Menj all these must be related to God or the Islamic Allah in some way. Wouldn't that be using the same twisted "fallacy of equivocation" that Menj talked about earlier? Yes.

Elohim in Hebrew is a singular plural which is very unique to that language. If you take Gods (plural), which is what Elohim means without any singular verbage, then the equivalent Arab word would be "Aliha" not Allah or Allahs. If Allah is a common term for God in Arabic what is its plural form? Aliha which corresponds to the plural Elohim comes from the root word "Ilah" which means "god" or "GOD" in Arabic. According to Menj's insane theories and uninformed western sources, the Arabs now have two words for God or god. We must ask Menj and other Muslim apologists who love trying to link Allah to Elohim, if Allah is a common word for "GOD" or "god" like Elohim how come there is no plural from such as Allahs or Allahiha or something of that nature? It's because Allah doesn't mean "God" or "god" in Arabic.

Further evidence against Menj's insane theory of linking the potential ALH or ELH lies in the Arabic transliteration of Elohim. If you translate this word from Hebrew directly to Arabic to help in comparing it to Allah it would be spelled as Alef, lam, ha, ya, mem, while Allah is spelled Alef Lam Lam ha. As you may have guessed, Allah's root isn't ALH or ELH! In fact words in both Arabic and Hebrew come from root verbs, for example the word YHWH comes from the verb Hayah. Allah has no root whatsoever in Arabic nor does it come from the ALH family.

Further proof against Allah being related to the "ALH" or "ELH" family can be shown in the illustrate spelling of both Allah and the transliteration of Elohim into Arabic:

> 1. How do you spell Allah in Arabic?

Allah=

Alef Lam Lam Ha
A     L   L   H
The name of the islamic God in Arabic.

> 2. How do you spell Elohim and in Arabic?

Elohim=

Alef  Lam   Ha   Ya   Meem
A      l     h   ee   m
The name of the Biblical God transliterated.

Notice that if you try to elimate the Ya Meem from Elohim that both Allah and Elohim would look very close to the same ALLH and ALH. However the problem with Elohim and Allah is that in Hebrew, as well as Arabic, Elohim has no relationship to Allah. Allah has the stress L on it that is very important and can't be eliminated:

Menj also appeals to Vine's dictionary of the Bible as added proof or should we say spoof:

The name allaah is regarded as a proper name, but not as a synonym of ‘elohiym, elah or God! That explains why Menj didn't post his alleged theories from a Credible Arabic source. Now lets address this Elah, Eloah stuff. Here we quote from Al Gharib's book, a multilingaul Arab linguist who has been speaking Arabic for over 40 years. First we do note that it is amazing that Ahmeed Deedat used these same arguments or ones close to it:

1. First and foremost the latin Scripts are misleading and Elah isn't anything close to Allah as Menj wants us to believe. Here is more:

And,

The Closest term to Elah or Eloah in Aramaic is the Arabic word "ILAH" not Allah. And both words "ILAH" and "ELAH" or "ELOAH" mean the exact same thing. Unlike Allah, the word ILAH comes from the ELH or ALH family. After all of his manipulative theories Menj winds up contradicting himself:

1. Vine says that Elah or Eloah is Allah Contradicts Arabic language which shows that:
2. Elah is related to ILAH not Allah.

So here we clearly see that Vine's dictionary confused Allah with Ilah very clearly!! Menj theory has proved that'

1. He has mistranslated Allah as "GOD", which wrong in Arabic
2. He contradicted his Quran which has no knowledge that "ALLAH" must be a common adjective to God.
3. He doesn't tell us how the ELLH or ALLH in Allah is rooted in 4 constanants and not derived from any verb like the Biblical versions for God.

So if he proves that Allah is a term for God, he still fails to prove that his name is Allah since the Arabic Bible says nowhere that God's name is "GOD". YHWH is Elohim, according to both the Hebrew and Arabic Bible. Meaning YHWH is God. The problem with Menj's assertion is that this Elohim says that his own personal name is YHWH, not Allah. For us to believe Menj's argument we would have to conclude that God's name is called "GOD"!! That would in itself refute the fact that his name is Allah, since Allah never meant "GOD" or "god" but just a name. This would contradict the Quran and would make God's name "ILAH" instead of "ALLAH" if we prove that God's name is God.

We totally agree, the problem is that it isn't Allah Elohim. Menj has just pointed us to more self refuting evidence against his claims. YHWH is God's personal name itself and there is nowhere in which Allah is called the name of God. We will expound on this a little further down. However we have a series of questions.

1. If Allah is the name of God, how come we don't see "Allah Elohim"?
2. Why in Arabic is this name not called "YHWH Allah"?

No such theory exist and it is mere nonsense which contradicts the Quran, logic and the Arabic language.

These out out of context posts and Menj knows this matter. His quote tries to give the impression that this name is only a Jewish national name only. He concurs with this out of context posting by saying that it is a name that Jews themselves only use. Here he tries to give the impression that since it is a Jewish usage only that anyone can use whatever name they deem necessary for God. Also notice the out of context quoting with Elohim, here he tries to give the impression that Elohim is used specially for the supreme God. The problems with this is that:

1. God is Ilah in Arabic hence Allah isn't Elohim despite is mistranslation in the Arabic Bible.

2. Any other God that is described as Elohim or (misuse of Allah) is the supreme God according to Menj.

Thankfully we can expose Menj's out of context posts on both these words from Strong's concordance:

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And, Here is what the Jewish sources say about YHWH:

Says the Gesenius Hebrew-English Lexicon of this name,

"pr. name of the supreme God amongst the Hebrews. The later Hebrews, for some centuries before the time of Christ, either misled by a false interpretation of certain laws (Ex.20:7; Lev.24:11), or else following some old superstition, regarded this name as so very holy, that it might not even be pronounced . . . Whenever, therefore, this nomen tetragrammaton occurred in the sacred text . . . they were accustomed to substitute for it [Adonai], and thus the vowels of the noun [Adonai] are in the Masoretic text placed under the four letters [YHVH] . . . . This custom was already in vogue in the days of the LXX translators . . . ."

The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia adds the following information:

"YAHVEH. 1. The Word. Yahveh is the most probable transliteration of the ancient Hebrew name for God. It is frequently, especially among German scholars, written Jahweh, Jahveh, Jahve or Yahweh; but these forms call either for the German pronunciation of j as y, or of w as v, or both. The oldest traditions as to the pronunciation of the name Yahveh are found in the church fathers. Of these, Clement of Alexandria (about 215 C.E.; Stromata 5, 6:34) writes Iasuai = Iaove [Yahveh], while Theodoret (about 386-457 C.E. . .) gives IaBe [Yahbeh] as the Samaritan pronunciation and 'Ia [Yah] as that of the Jews . . ." (p.584).

In the light of these and other facts, says the Jewish Universal Encyclopedia,

the first syllable of the divine name was clearly "Ya," and the only possible uncertainty would involve the second syllable.

The Torah: A Modern Commentary, adds that:

"Overwhelming scholarly opinion holds that [YHVH] was in Moses' time pronounced. . . (Yahveh). There is also a shorter form of the Name, Yah . . . which may represent the original from which Yahveh was expanded or may, contrariwise, be a contraction of the longer ascription" (p.426).

Says the New Dictionary of the Bible:

"Strictly speaking, Yahweh is the only 'name' of God. In Genesis wherever the word sem ('name') is associated with the divine being that name is Yahweh. When Abraham or Isaac built an altar 'he called on the name of Yahweh' (Gen.12:8, 13:4, 26:25).

"In particular, Yahweh was the God of the Patriarchs, and we read of 'Yahweh the God (Elohim) of Abraham' and then of Isaac and finally 'Yahweh, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob,' concerning which Elohim says , 'this is my name for ever' (Exo.3:15). Yahweh, therefore, in contrast to Elohim, is a PROPER NOUN, the name of a Person, though that Person is divine. As such, it has its own ideological setting: it presents God as a Person, and so brings Him into relationship with other, human, personalities. It brings God near to man, and He speaks to the Patriarchs as one friend to another" (p.478).

According to Strong's Concordance YHWH is the "Proper Name of the One true God" as well as the Jewish national name. Menj's exposure of out of context quoting is unveiled for all to see for themselves. If his theory is so workable why does he have to misquote text? This clearly shows that he doesn't believe that his theory can be proven otherwise. Now lets look at the meaning of Elohim:

Elohim can be used for God or gods whether true or false and even goddesses. So we can conclude that since Menj's Allah is a common Elohim then Allah can be anything from a female goddess to Baal!! Menj has dishonered his God and exposed him for being some type of henotheistic deity. Whatever God you want, he or she can be Allah. Also if Menj believes that Allah is Elohim, why didn't his quote from Strong's Concordance, clearly say that God's name is Elohim? Surely such great evidence would greatly prove his theory. Or is it that Elohim is never used as a name for God.

That is totally false, show us where the bible says this or where Christendom has agreed to this. We await your answers.

We find is very strange that Menj has to now quote Mr. Gilchrist since on other places on his site he claims to write rebuttals against him as being a propogandic missionary. This lets us know that Menj only picks and choses people that seem to agree with his preconcieved notions. As John Gilchrist would agree, the name Jesus means "YAHWEH is Salvation". Also what Menj fail to note is that in Greek, and Aramaic, YHWH is subsituted with the term lord or LORD because of it being to holy to pronounce. Here is an example:

The New testament scripture of Matthew 22:37 repeats Deu. 6:5. If this verse were represented in Hebrew, it would, show YHWH, not Allah as the one you should love as the God of you. The translations clearly show that LORD is a substitute for the word YHWH and not a replacement. The problem that Menj faces is the fact that "ALLAH" isn't used as a replacement for YHWH in the Arabic bible. He still fails to validate his pagan god.

The problem with this is that it is linguistically incorrect to say YHWH YHWH, like this. Also if Allah is valid, how come in Arabic it is like this:

Also lets take a closer look at the definition of Eloi :

Notice that it didn't say that this is the name of God. but just a phrase for "MY GOD". If so what is God's name? Not Allah. Jesus was referring to YHWH. Again lets refer you to the same Strong's concordance on YHWH and other synonyms:

This same concordance mentions that this name "JEHOVAH" or "YHWH" is the proper name of the only true God. It is already historically verified that after Isaiah, Jews began replacing YHWH with "Adonai" which is translated to mean "LORD" out of respect for the holy name.

No it only shows that Eloi means "MY GOD". Menj's definition didn't say that Eloi is a name for God. Even if we take Menj's assertions as being accurate then Jesus would be verying that God's name is "MY GOD"! So when we ask about God's name we would have to say that his name is "MY GOD"!!

We already shown from Arabic that Eli or Eloi doesn't translate to Allah. Menj is also wrong saying that ELI's root is related to ALLAH since Eli is spelled Alef Lamed vav, which is literally ALV. So now Menj must explain to us how "H" can be changed to equal "O" or "V". Also It will be grammatically incorrect to say:

The NT was written in Greek however it points us to him speaking the Aramaic language not Arabic. Jesus was quoting Psalm 22:1. So why is the transliteration ilah instead of Allah? It is totally insane to think that Jesus was saying the word "Allah", a recoginized word for 'Oak' In the Hebrew language, which, as a rabbi he was familiar with. Menj also exposes his lack of knowledge of biblical languges because the "Eli" that Jesus was calling couldn't possible be Allah. This source gives a better understanding:

It is clear that Jesus was speaking Hebrew not Aramaic as Mark recorded. In Hebrew he was saying "ELI" which could be mistaking for Elijah also!! Now we may expect Menj and other Muslim apologists to try and start linking Elijah to Allah now!!!

Lets look at the term for God

And,

God is defined as:

The word "god" can refer to anything from YHWH to Zeus. The fact is the greatest command is what Jesus said: You should love the LORD with all your heart. This in Hebrew would mean YHWH, not Allah. So if Jesus wasn't ignorant of the divine name, how come he didn't say that you should love "Eloi" with all your heart? Menj believes that because Jesus didn't use the word "YHWH" is proof that you can call God any name is totally false. The reason that Jesus didn't use the name is out of reverence, even though he was YHWH!! Proof that the Jews of his time reverenced YHWH and would substitute it can be seen from this verse:

The NAME refers to HASHEM in hebrew which refers to YHWH. This is shown in Gen 2:4, in the Jewish Bible

Hence Jesus would call God "THE LORD" or "HASHEM". All Jews and Christians know that it refers to YHWH and NOT Allah, which is Oaktree in Hebrew. The NIV Study Bible comments on the verse 3 John 1:7

Another strange tactic employed by Muslim apologists is their lack of examples from the Arabic bible showing you what God's name is. We usually see them post information about how "Allah=God" as shown in this example:

This argument above is displayed in several Muslim web sites (i.e. submission.org) and often used by internet Muslim propagandists in their try to convince Western Christians to believe that Allah and Yahweh are basically the same God, since Arab Christians use the term Allah in the Arabic Bible. However there is a problem since the Arabic Bible uses Allah as a generic term while the Quran uses this word as a personal name. Therefore:

Now either the Arabic Bible is wrong or the Quran is correct. Lets compare some examples the Arabic Bible usage with Quranic usage of Allah:

Notice that in the Arabic Bible of Hosea 13:4, ilaah is used as a common noun for "god" This same thing is repeated in Surah 2:133 and 163 of the Quran. You don't see a single example of where the word ALLAH is used a common noun in the Quran nor do you see a single reference where ALLAH is used as a personal name in the Arabic Bible. Look at the English translation of Hos 13:4

The same word used for "GOD" 'ilaahuka, is used also in the Quran in Surah 2:133! This word refers to the true "GOD" in the Bible however in the Quran it is used also for "god"! This shows us that ILAH and not Allah is the correct usage to denote "GOD" or "god" and not "ALLAH". The Arabic Bible is incorrect using the "ALLAH As a common noun for god since the Quran never does this!

So which one is correct? The Quran, with its usage of Allah as a Proper Noun and a personal name, or the Arabic Bible which uses Allah as a common noun and not a personal name? This is the dilemma we must face when we accept the Arabic Bible's usage of "ALLAH" as a generic form for God!! In fact both the Arabic Bible and the Quranic usage of Allah contradict each other since in the Quran Allah says:

Here in the Quran we see that Allah is THE NAME OF THE GOD OF ISLAM. However in the Arabic Bible it says that ARRABU or Yahwah is the name of God. We've shown early in this article about this clear cut fact, now lets illustrate this in greater detail:

ps 83:18 WA YA3LAMUW ANNAKA ISMUKA WA7DAKA, YAHWAH AL3ALIYYU 3ALA KULLI ALARDI.
• That they may know that thou alone, whose name is Jehovah, art the Most High over all the earth. -Darby
• that men may know that Thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the Most High over all the earth. KJV21
• And they know that Thou -- (Thy name [is] Jehovah -- by Thyself,) [Art] the Most High over all the earth! YLT
• That they may know that thou alone, whose name is Jehovah, Art the Most High over all the earth. ASV
• That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. KJV
• Let them know that you, whose name is the Lord - that you alone are the Most High over all the earth. NIV-IBS
• That they may know that You alone, whose name is the LORD, Are the Most High over all the earth. NASB
• until they learn that you alone are called the LORD, that you alone are the Most High, supreme over all the earth. NLT
  That they may know that You, whose name alone is the LORD, Are the Most High over all the earth. NKJV
• Let them know that thou alone, whose name is the LORD, art the Most High over all the earth. RSV

IF ALLAH WAS GOD'S NAME HOW COME IT ISN'T LIKE THIS:

All translations of the Bible show that God's name is either JEHOVAH or THE LORD. If Allah is a valid name for God then how come the Arabic Bible didn't use it for his name? If the Arabic Bible wanted to use Allah as a synonym or replace or substitute it for YHWH it would clearly be found as a name in the Arabic Bible. The Bible God clearly says that his name is YHWH, not Allah. Who cares if Allah is misintepreted as "GOD" or "god". God's name isn't God anyway which would still prove that Muslims worship a nameless henotheistic deity!

Is 12:2 HUWA DA ALILAHU KHALASI FA'ATMA'INNU WA LA ARTA3IBU LI'ANNA YAH YAHWAH QUWWATI WA TARNIMATI WA QAD SARA LI KHALASAN.
• Behold, God is my salvation: I will trust, and not be afraid; for Jah, Jehovah, is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation. Darby
• Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust and not be afraid; for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; He also has become my salvation." KJV21
• Lo, God [is] my salvation, I trust, and fear not, For my strength and song [is] Jah Jehovah, And He is to me for salvation. YLT
• Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and will not be afraid; for Jehovah, even Jehovah, is my strength and song; and he is become my salvation. ASV
• Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation. KJV
• Surely God is my salvation; I will trust and not be afraid. The Lord , the Lord , is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation." NIV-IBS
• "Behold, (3) God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid; For the LORD GOD is my strength and song, And He has become my salvation." NASB
• See, God has come to save me. I will trust in him and not be afraid. The LORD GOD is my strength and my song; he has become my salvation." NLT
• 2Behold, God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid; "For YAH, the LORD, is my strength and song; He also has become my salvation."' NKJV
• "Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and will not be afraid; for the LORD GOD is my strength and my song, and he has become my salvation." RSV

  If Allah was a legitamate name then we should see the Arabic Bible writing this verse like this below.

Apparently the Arabic Bible clearly shows that YHWH is a person's strength and salvation and not Allah.

Is. 26:4 TAWAKKALUW 3ALA ARRABI (YAHWAH) ILA AL'ABADI LI'ANNA FI YAH ARRABI SAKHRA ADDUHUWRI
• Confide ye in Jehovah for ever; for in Jah, Jehovah, is the rock of ages. Darby
• Trust ye in the LORD for ever, for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength. KJV21
• Trust ye in Jehovah for ever, For in Jah Jehovah [is] a rock of ages, YLT
• Trust ye in Jehovah for ever; for in Jehovah, even Jehovah, is an everlasting rock. ASV
• Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength: KJV
• Trust in the Lord forever, for the Lord , the Lord , is the Rock eternal. NIV-IBS
• Trust in the LORD forever, For in GOD the LORD, we have an everlasting Rock. NASB
• Trust in the LORD always, for the LORD GOD is the eternal Rock. NLT
• Trust in the LORD forever, For in Yah, the LORD, is everlasting strength. NKJV
• Trust in the LORD for ever, for the LORD GOD is an everlasting rock. RSV

According to the Arabic Bible we must trust in YHWH forever. If we are to trust in YHWH forever then there would be no need to trust Allah would it? No.

Is. 25:10 LI'ANNA YADA YAHWAH TASTAQIRRU 3ALA HADA ALJABALI WA YUDASU MUWÁBU FI MAKANIHI KAMA YUDASU ATTIBNU FI MA'I ALMAZBALATI.
• For in this mountain shall the hand of Jehovah rest, and Moab shall be trodden down under him, as straw is trodden down in the dunghill; Darby
• For in this mountain shall the hand of the LORD rest, and Moab shall be trodden down under Him, even as straw is trodden down for the dunghill. KJV21
• For rest doth the hand of Jehovah on this mountain, And trodden down is Moab under Him, As trodden down is straw on a dunghill. YLT
• For in this mountain will the hand of Jehovah rest; and Moab shall be trodden down in his place, even as straw is trodden down in the water of the dung-hill. ASV
• For in this mountain shall the hand of the LORD rest, and Moab shall be trodden down under him, even as straw is trodden down for the dunghill. KJV
• The hand of the Lord will rest on this mountain; but Moab will be trampled under him as straw is trampled down in the manure. NIV-IBS
• For the hand of the LORD will rest on this mountain, And (23) Moab will be trodden down in his place As straw is trodden down in the water of a manure pile. NASB
• For the LORD's good hand will rest on Jerusalem. Moab will be crushed like trampled straw and left to rot. NLT
• For on this mountain the hand of the LORD will rest, And Moab shall be trampled down under Him, As straw is trampled down for the refuse heap. NKJV
• For the hand of the LORD will rest on this mountain, and Moab shall be trodden down in his place, as straw is trodden down in a dung-pit. RSV

The top examples above clearly show that all the translations of the bible render God's name as being "JEHOVAH or THE LORD". We also see that the Arabic Bible never says that God's name is "Allah" Here are more Arabic Bible verses:

Gen 12:1 WA QALA YAHWAH LI ABRAMA IDHAB MIN ARDIKA WA MIN 3ASHIRATIKA WA MIN BAYTI ABIKA ILA AL'ARDI ALLATI URIYKA.
• And Jehovah had said to Abram, Go out of thy land, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, to the land that I will shew thee.

If Abraham called God "Allah" or knew of any name such as Allah then it should have been rendered like this:

So much for the idea the Abraham even knew about the name Allah, the high God of the Arabs. Even the Arabic Bible shows that the name would be YHWH not Allah.

Jehovah (YHWH), not Allah will be my God. Enough said.

Wouldn't this be the perfect time to tell Moses that God's name was "ALLAH" here? If God's name was truly Allah then it would be rendered like this:

In the name of YHWH, God Merciful and Gracious, not Allah.

I guess its because Allah isn't God. There is no other God other thatn YHWH, which means Allah can't be God.

If the Arabic Bible says not to forget YHWH, then why Muslims claim to worship the same god and forget his name? Its because they don't worship God but a false deity.

If none is holy like YHWH then Allah is included, as not being holy!!

Apparently Allah never spoke to Samuel!!

So if these people knew anything about pagan Allah then they would have said:

Isn't this contradictory to what the Muslims be doing? Falling on their faces and not worshipping YHWH God but Allah Devil? Yes.

Doesn't say who is God save Allah does it? if Only Jehovah is God then it can't be Allah. If Allah was a valid name for God then surely it would have said this:

Who is God? Not Allah but YHWH!!

So we can easily conclude that YHWH, not Allah is the creator! Verified from the Arabic Bible.

YHWH is God, not Allah!! Enough said.

YHWH is the redeemer and the Holy One, Allah is well, not mentioned!!!

There is only one God, YHWH. There since there is only YHWH there can be no Allah.

The idea that Allah is a valid name for God is totally laughabale and false. The Best a Muslim can do is show you that his name is related to a common word as "ELOHIM" or "ELOAH". So by using this type of thinking we can say that "God's name is God" or "Woman's name is Woman"!! This is in Total contradiction of the Bible itself and the fact that God says that his name is YHWH forever, not "GOD":

The name of God forever in the Bible is the tetragramaton YHWH or YHVH. It can be pronounced as YAHWEH or YEHOVAH. If Muslims claim that Allah is god's personal name, they must prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that all the prophets, in the Bible, spoke in the name of Allah, as well as prove in Jewish and Hebrew writings that Allah is and was a common personal name for God. Since no evidence of this exist whatsoever in the Hebrew Bible or in any Jewish writing or Hebraic Jewish culture, Muslims only credible argument is one that stems not only from the above fallacy but also the fallacy of Slothful Induction-The proper conclusion of an inductive argument is denied despite the evidence to the contrary.

To promote the idea that Allah is the same as saying God or god doesn't answer the question as to what is God's name? Hence the Arabic Bible mistranslates Allah to equal (Elohim) which is the common word for God in Hebrew, however even this bible doesn't say that God's name is Allah. It uses Al'Rabb as a synonym for YHWH or the name YAHWAH, never Allah. Be careful of Muslims who will try to twist Allah (used as a common noun in the Arabic Bible, while a proper name in the Quran) to be a proper noun even though it is used as a common noun in the Arabic Bible. This method of trying to make Elohim/Allah a personal name is totally hilarious. This concludes part 1 of our rebuttal to Menj and his foolishness. God Bless.

APPENDIX

It has also come to our attention that some Muslims have been using heretical Jehovah Witness sources dealing with the divine name of God. Since many of our articles have been read by many apologists, they have changed their manipulative methods now. Instead of using the bland arguments of linking "Allah to Elohim" because these apologists would immediately be asked "If Allah is Elohim, then what is Elohim's name? God's name isn't God", now they want to try and claim that YHWH is only a title:

Muslims have now resorted to using quotes such as these because it helps them deal with the fact that YHWH not Allah is found as the name for God in the Bible. If they can prove that YHWH is a title, then they can claim that Allah could be valid as a name. The problem with this is that if you analyze this quote it says:

This quote thoroughly refutes the Muslim apologists who like using it since it says that YHWH is BOTH a name and appellation forever. Many apologists have tried to take the second meaning "appellation" and eliminate the first meaning "name". This is the fallacy of exclusion and the only way that YHWH can be only an appellation is if the word "NAME" isn't found here. Also note the verses present here in this quote. The first passage is from Exodus 3:15 which proceeded Psalms by a good 450 years. So for 450 years God's name was still YHWH and after this name became his appellation or title hence after.

Even with this twisted logic, it would disprove that Allah is God because the appellation would be God's idenfication forever. Al Gharib, answers Osama Abdallah, the originator of this idea, of www.answering-christianity.com, on this issue:

And,

If we agree that YHWH is just an appellation then we would have to conclude that God is nameless, which totally contradicts the Bible which says that God does have a name, which is YHWH. Also Muslims who use this verse are intentional liars since there is nowhere in which the word "appellation" is mentioned here:

PSALM 135:13
• YOUR NAME, O Lord , endures forever, your renown, O Lord , through all generations. NIV
• YOUR NAME, O LORD, is everlasting, Your remembrance, O LORD, throughout all generations. NASB
• YOUR NAME, O LORD, endures forever; your fame, O LORD, is known to every generation. NLT
• THY NAME, O LORD, endureth for ever; and thy memorial, O LORD, throughout all generations. KJV
• YOUR NAME, O LORD, endures forever, Your fame, O LORD, throughout all generations. NKJV
• YOUR NAME, O Lord, endures forever, Your fame, O Lord, throughout all ages. AMP
• THY NAME, O LORD, endures for ever, thy renown, O LORD, throughout all ages. RSV
• THY NAME, O LORD, endureth for ever, and Thy memorial, O LORD, throughout all generations. KJV21
• O Jehovah, THY NAME [is] to the age, O Jehovah, Thy memorial to all generations. YLT
• THY NAME, O Jehovah, is for ever; thy memorial, O Jehovah, from generation to generation. DARBY
• THY NAME, O Jehovah, endureth for ever; Thy memorial name, O Jehovah, throughout all generations. ASV

This verse mentions nothing about YHWH being a title, it clearly says that YHWH is the NAME of God that would endure forever!! Forever doesn't stop with the coming of Muhammad and Islam. The word for "NAME" in these Hebraic verses is Shem and it can not be mentioned as an appellation whatsoever:

This word has never meant title or appellation at all, this is a stark lie. How would Muslims like it if we use a version or translation of the Quran over the Arabic original and then form a false opinion off of this? It would be wrong!! However if YHWH wanted to say that his name was an appellation or Title then the world would clearly be "KANAH" which means appellation or title. This word is found in this scripture:

Now lets look at the Definition of "TITLE" or "Appellation" in the Bible

Notice that in this verse that both "name - Hebrew Shem" and "Title or appellation-Hebrew Kanah" are present with totally different meanings, showing that both can't be the same!! If YHWH wanted to say that this name was just a appellation then the word "kanah" would be used instead of Shem. Also notice that Kanah, or title/appellation is used already for someone who already has a name!!! It means to surname (Someone who already has a proper name) as well call a person or thing by name and betitle it. Now if YHWH is just a title, why isn't Kanah used in the verses for him in replacement of Shem? How can a God with no name have an appellation according to the Hebrew Bible? It can't happen. The only way that YHWH could be an appellation was if God is nameless!! These Muslim apologists not only twist logic but they don't study the Hebrew of the verses they misinteprete either.

YHWH is also a proper name in Hebrew, while a title or appellation describes this personal name!!! "Lord, King, Master are titles and appellations, that describe YHWH. The NIV states it best as to why YHWH is rendered as LORD:

Those who think that YHWH is a title or appellation have committed the fallacy of false analogy in which they equated the English translation of the personal proper name to "Adonai" a title!!! If the Muslim believes that YHWH is a title only, then how come he/she can't prove this from the Semitic language of Hebrew other than quoting English translations and sources? How can a title be used for a personal name when the title can only be a surname of that personal name? If YHWH was just an appellation how come we don't see the word for appellation or title "Kanah" in any Bible verse saying that God's name is just an appellation?

If those Muslim apologists can go to the dictionaries and give you detailed exegenesis on the Quranic words in question how come they don't want to do this with the Bible? Is it because they can't prove their silly theories? Yes. YHWH an appellation? A personal name in Hebrew is not an appellation. How hilarious.

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